[DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels

[Richard Greenblum]

I met one of the highest ranking Pirelli guys in the US a year or two ago at
COTA.  I asked him about making 15 tires again to support Panteras,
Lamborghinis, Porshes, etc.  He said, ³It¹s not going to happen.  We know
there are a lot of you out there, but it would cost far too much to do it.²
He explained that the old molds won¹t work, they have to start from scratch
and redesign the tires to be safe and comply with current requirements.  He
said the numbers aren¹t even close to being financially feasible.  Maybe
things have changed, but I doubt it.  I don¹t know what kind of deals they
make with celebrities like Chip Foose, or how Coker decides what to have
made.  Many of us have tried to get Coker to make them, but they¹ve refused.

The only tires that appear to be available now are from Avon and maybe
Dunlop through distributors in Europe.  I don¹t know of any tires still
available here, even with an ³H² speed rating, but I could be wrong.  I have
spoken with a couple of guys running the Avons and they liked them better
than the Euro T/A¹s and other tires we¹ve been stuck with for years.  I¹m
running on 8 and 10 inch Campys, and am on my last set of 305/50-15s.  Avon
or Dunlop are up next for my car.

Richard
Austin, TX
7080



From:  DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
<edducati at mac.com>
Date:  Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM
To:  Jeff Udelson <jefude at yahoo.com>
Cc:  deTomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels

Chip Foose is having Perrelli make them I've been trying to get a hold of
him to see if you could buy several sets so they do have the molds.

There are tires available as well that have the H rating if Mike Drew could
please chime in I know he knows what brands they are. Sorry Mike I lost your
email.

Ed 

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>  On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:40, Jeff Udelson via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>  
>     I commend Marvic for spending the money to develop and produce these
>    wheels. However as many owners have discovered there are virtually
>    no tires manufactured that will work with these rims.
>    My question is why manufacture wheels that have no availability of
>    compatible tires ?
>    Now if Pirelli decided to make P-7s in 15" again THAT would
>    get me excited.
>    Jeff
>    10X15 Long ribs with Toyos on #4134
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   I met one of the highest ranking Pirelli guys in the US a year or two
   ago at COTA.  I asked him about making 15 tires again to support
   Panteras, Lamborghinis, Porshes, etc.  He said, "It's not going to
   happen.  We know there are a lot of you out there, but it would cost
   far too much to do it."  He explained that the old molds won't work,
   they have to start from scratch and redesign the tires to be safe and
   comply with current requirements.  He said the numbers aren't even
   close to being financially feasible.  Maybe things have changed, but I
   doubt it.  I don't know what kind of deals they make with celebrities
   like Chip Foose, or how Coker decides what to have made.  Many of us
   have tried to get Coker to make them, but they've refused.
   The only tires that appear to be available now are from Avon and maybe
   Dunlop through distributors in Europe.  I don't know of any tires still
   available here, even with an "H" speed rating, but I could be wrong.  I
   have spoken with a couple of guys running the Avons and they liked them
   better than the Euro T/A's and other tires we've been stuck with for
   years.  I'm running on 8 and 10 inch Campys, and am on my last set of
   305/50-15s.  Avon or Dunlop are up next for my car.
   Richard
   Austin, TX
   7080

   From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
   <[2]edducati at mac.com>
   Date: Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM
   To: Jeff Udelson <[3]jefude at yahoo.com>
   Cc: deTomaso List <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update 10x15 Campagnolo Pantera GTS wheels

   Chip Foose is having Perrelli make them I've been trying to get a hold
   of him to see if you could buy several sets so they do have the molds.
   There are tires available as well that have the H rating if Mike Drew
   could please chime in I know he knows what brands they are. Sorry Mike
   I lost your email.
   Ed
   Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus

   On Jul 9, 2015, at 12:40, Jeff Udelson via DeTomaso
   <[5]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

       I commend Marvic for spending the money to develop and produce
   these

      wheels. However as many owners have discovered there are virtually

      no tires manufactured that will work with these rims.

      My question is why manufacture wheels that have no availability of

      compatible tires ?

      Now if Pirelli decided to make P-7s in 15" again THAT would

      get me excited.

      Jeff

      10X15 Long ribs with Toyos on #4134

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