[DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black Pre L Pantera
Christopher Kimball
chrisvkimball at msn.com
Thu Jan 29 01:09:49 EST 2015
I love looking at great art!
Thanks for the pictures; they are stupendous. You do great work.
You will find the folks in the Pantera community are the nicest, most giving bunch of individuals you'll ever meet. When I joined the club back in 2006, I was astounded at how much help I received from the other club members.
In fact, the car I bought had a slow leak in the gas tank, so I almost didn't buy it when I found out the motor and transaxle had to be removed to get to the tank. The club members laughed at my hesitation and assured me they would help with the chore.
True to their words, after I got the car, about 8 guys showed up and spent all day taking out the engine and transmission--for pizza and pop! Then, after engine repairs they all showed up and put it all back together again. Not only was it a great learning experience for me, but it demonstrated camaraderie as I've never seen before, (with the possible exception of church). I guess there are similarities--sometimes driving a Pantera can be a religious experience!
I remember after the ordeal of getting the engine out some of the guys' shoes were ruined due to the oil that went everywhere. They wouldn't accept cash to help pay for new shoes, so I ended up sending them gift certificates.
Anyway, you'll be amazed at the help you'll get before and during your Pantera ownership. If you're ever near Tacoma, please let me know and we can go to a Starbucks for a Venti, mocha Frappuccino made with Breve, double-blended, two packs of sugar added, whipped cream blended in and on top, extra chocolate and four pumps of vanilla added.
You should try it--it's definitely high-octane...:)
Sincerely,
Chris
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black Pre L Pantera
From: robertgarven at earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:24:22 -0800
CC: davel at emspace.com
To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
Dave & Chris,
Thank you so much for responding! I have received so many suggestions and leads. Even though I dont have a car yet I feel right at home! I already got several promising replies! Hopefully sooner than later I will be asking tech questions! :-) MIke Drew is advising me so betweenall of you I am pretty hopeful I will get a nice (rust free) car. Ive read about every think I could about the cars, having worked on the Ferrari for 20 years should help. I know nothing of American engines but my brother in law builds top fuel drag race parts and oil pumps for 351’s. Hey itcould not be more confusing than an Italian engine!!!!!
I am hoping to get as nice an example as available and willing to pay a bit extra if someone has already done most of the work. I am 58 now and still working a 12 hour a day job and would like to actually drive around a bit. Im sure I will be playing with it though.
Sincerely,
Rob
Here are some pics of some of the work I did on my car! Cant wait to park a red Pantera next to it, I sure it will piss the neighbors off even more! HAAAA
Robert W. Garven Jr.robertgarven at earthlink.net
On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote: The key is the "mechanic" part! If you get advice from other club
members, most of your other Pantera problems will get fixed. If you go
to someone who knows nothing about Panteras, all bets are off!
Chris
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:02:28 -0800
From: davel at emspace.com
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black
Pre L Pantera
He will certainly be able to tell you what not to find.
(rust, corrosion and terrible mechanics)
dave
On 28/01/2015 6:45 AM, Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso wrote:
Welcome Rob and good luck on ther hunt for "your" Pantera. Joining
POCA and this email forum should make your search much easier.
I think Chris Kimble will be your guardian angel since he too is a
drummer and a fanatical Pantera owner with a similar story of seeking
his dream car.
Tom
5186
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From: Robert W. Garven Jr. <robertgarven at earthlink.net>
To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:00 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black Pre L
Pantera
Dear POCA members,
I would like to introduce myself, I am Robert Garven and live in
Ventura, CA. I have had an award winning 1975 Ferrari 308 GT4 Ferrari
for the last 20 years and
I have decided I wanted to add a Pantera to my garage! I have alway
wanted one and hopefully there is one out there for me! Here is an
article on my car that
was in the magazine Forza. I have done all the work on this car myself,
but now looking for a car that someone else has sorted out as I want a
very nice car I drive.
[1][1][1]http://www.forza-mag.com/issue...?page=1#.VHv5Covv36k
I just joined POCA and hoping the members here might know of a car
available and help me locate the Pantera of my dreams. I have done
quite a bit of research and
looked at many cars but have not found the right one yet.
I am looking for the nicest 1971 Pre L Red/Black Pantera available. I
would consider other cars but hope to find a car just like this one
online with no front vents and a
flat trunk. My preference is for originality but tasteful upgrades and
or mechanical updates such as engine mods, cooling updates, SS cooling
tubes and water tanks,
and of course updated chassis strut bars, etc are acceptable and are
even desired. I even like the painted engine bays but not looking for
a wildly modified car. I love the
simplicity and beauty of the design and would love a car like the one I
found pictures of online. I am searching all over and have a few leads,
and have a few very kind friends
looking also, but finding the right car will not be easy and I hoped
that by this email someone here can help, so I can become a part of
your community.
Sincerely,
Rob
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[cid:[3]48111760-1EA2-4AED-BB73-60998D35E41F at charter.com]
Robert W. Garven Jr.
[2][4]robertgarven at earthlink.net
References
1. [5][2]http://www.forza-mag.com/issues/139/articles/passion-play?page=1#
.VHv5C
ovv36k
2. [6]mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
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v5Covv36k
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I love looking at great art!
Thanks for the pictures; they are stupendous. You do great work.
You will find the folks in the Pantera community are the nicest, most
giving bunch of individuals you'll ever meet. When I joined the club
back in 2006, I was astounded at how much help I received from the
other club members.
In fact, the car I bought had a slow leak in the gas tank, so I almost
didn't buy it when I found out the motor and transaxle had to be
removed to get to the tank. The club members laughed at my hesitation
and assured me they would help with the chore.
True to their words, after I got the car, about 8 guys showed up and
spent all day taking out the engine and transmission--for pizza and
pop! Then, after engine repairs they all showed up and put it all back
together again. Not only was it a great learning experience for me,
but it demonstrated camaraderie as I've never seen before, (with the
possible exception of church). I guess there are
similarities--sometimes driving a Pantera can be a religious
experience!
I remember after the ordeal of getting the engine out some of the guys'
shoes were ruined due to the oil that went everywhere. They wouldn't
accept cash to help pay for new shoes, so I ended up sending them gift
certificates.
Anyway, you'll be amazed at the help you'll get before and during your
Pantera ownership. If you're ever near Tacoma, please let me know and
we can go to a Starbucks for a Venti, mocha Frappuccino made with
Breve, double-blended, two packs of sugar added, whipped cream blended
in and on top, extra chocolate and four pumps of vanilla added.
You should try it--it's definitely high-octane...:)
Sincerely,
Chris
__________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black
Pre L Pantera
From: robertgarven at earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 21:24:22 -0800
CC: davel at emspace.com
To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
Dave & Chris,
Thank you so much for responding! I have received so many suggestions
and leads. Even though I dont have a car yet I feel right at home!
I already got several promising replies! Hopefully sooner than later I
will be asking tech questions! :-) MIke Drew is advising me so between
all of you I am pretty hopeful I will get a nice (rust free) car. Ive
read about every think I could about the cars, having worked on the
Ferrari for
20 years should help. I know nothing of American engines but my brother
in law builds top fuel drag race parts and oil pumps for 351s. Hey it
could not be more confusing than an Italian engine!!!!!
I am hoping to get as nice an example as available and willing to pay
a bit extra if someone has already done most of the work. I am 58 now
and still working a 12 hour a day job and would like to actually drive
around a bit. Im sure I will be playing with it though.
Sincerely,
Rob
Here are some pics of some of the work I did on my car! Cant wait to
park a red Pantera next to it, I sure it will piss the neighbors off
even more! HAAAA
[cid:B32A1E80-E73E-470E-B86C-F1F645F8D602 at charter.com]
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Robert W. Garven Jr.
[1]robertgarven at earthlink.net
On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Christopher Kimball
<[2]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
The key is the "mechanic" part! If you get advice from other club
members, most of your other Pantera problems will get fixed. If you
go
to someone who knows nothing about Panteras, all bets are off!
Chris
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:02:28 -0800
From: [3]davel at emspace.com
To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black
Pre L Pantera
He will certainly be able to tell you what not to find.
(rust, corrosion and terrible mechanics)
dave
On 28/01/2015 6:45 AM, Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso wrote:
Welcome Rob and good luck on ther hunt for "your" Pantera.
Joining
POCA and this email forum should make your search much easier.
I think Chris Kimble will be your guardian angel since he too is
a
drummer and a fanatical Pantera owner with a similar story of
seeking
his dream car.
Tom
5186
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert W. Garven Jr. <[5]robertgarven at earthlink.net>
To: detomaso <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:00 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Member looking for perfect 1971 Red/Black
Pre L
Pantera
Dear POCA members,
I would like to introduce myself, I am Robert Garven and live in
Ventura, CA. I have had an award winning 1975 Ferrari 308 GT4
Ferrari
for the last 20 years and
I have decided I wanted to add a Pantera to my garage! I have
alway
wanted one and hopefully there is one out there for me! Here is
an
article on my car that
was in the magazine Forza. I have done all the work on this car
myself,
but now looking for a car that someone else has sorted out as I
want a
very nice car I drive.
[1][1][1][7]http://www.forza-mag.com/issue...?page=1#.VHv5Covv36k
I just joined POCA and hoping the members here might know of a
car
available and help me locate the Pantera of my dreams. I have
done
quite a bit of research and
looked at many cars but have not found the right one yet.
I am looking for the nicest 1971 Pre L Red/Black Pantera
available. I
would consider other cars but hope to find a car just like this
one
online with no front vents and a
flat trunk. My preference is for originality but tasteful
upgrades and
or mechanical updates such as engine mods, cooling updates, SS
cooling
tubes and water tanks,
and of course updated chassis strut bars, etc are acceptable and
are
even desired. I even like the painted engine bays but not
looking for
a wildly modified car. I love the
simplicity and beauty of the design and would love a car like the
one I
found pictures of online. I am searching all over and have a few
leads,
and have a few very kind friends
looking also, but finding the right car will not be easy and I
hoped
that by this email someone here can help, so I can become a part
of
your community.
Sincerely,
Rob
[[8]cid:[2]2DDA7171-9D84-4A71-8C14-99797D8496F8 at charter.com]
[[9]cid:[3]48111760-1EA2-4AED-BB73-60998D35E41F at charter.com]
Robert W. Garven Jr.
[2][4][10]robertgarven at earthlink.net
References
1.
[5][2][11]http://www.forza-mag.com/issues/139/articles/passion-play?
page=1#
.VHv5C
ovv36k
2. [6][12]mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
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5. mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
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10. mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
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12. mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
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18. mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
19. http://www.forza-mag.com/issues/139/articles/passion-play?page=1#.VH
20. mailto:robertgarven at earthlink.net
21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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