[DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
Sat Jan 24 17:49:45 EST 2015
If this discussion is centered around tires for narrow bodied cars, I do not believe there is a SINGLE matched set of street tires in the factory-correct sizes (225/50-15 and 295/50-15) for 8 and 10” wheels with the possible exception of Avons. If you have a wide-body then the P-Zeros are an option, but the ONLY one, I believe.
If someone is aware of a matched set of tires in those sizes, please enlighten me as my current set are getting a bit hard now. I do not want to run “race” tires on the street.
Surely whichever tire manufacturer re-pops tires in our sizes is going to sell a decent volume given the pent-up demand and nonexistent options. Heck, I’d be happy of we could just get BFG to re-run the 225/50-15 Radial T/As to match the 295/50-15s that they haven’t YET discontinued (although the writing might be on the wall there too).
I will soon also need a fresh set of tires for my 17” “dress” wheels and am frustrated that I can’t find matching fronts and rears anymore in the sizes I prefer (245/40-17 and 335/35-17). Based on this thread I should jump on anything that I can find.
Thanks,
Mark Charlton
pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:44 PM, LS via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> There are more "modern" Z rated 15" tires available now than matched
> 17" options.
> This makes original wheels a great option.
> LS
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> From: Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux
> I got 17" wheels mainly because 15" tires to fit the rear were
> rubbish
> S or T-rated things.
> But as Mike says, even 17" is becoming "small" and tire choices are
> fewer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Thomas <[3]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: 'Charles De Francisco' <[4]drfortinbras at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jan 24, 2015 7:37 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux
> From a speed rating, with the original 15" wheels, tires for the
> Pantera or Corvette would be the same rubber. It's been a problem
> for
> years that the supply and choices in 15" speed rated tires is getting
> thinner and thinner. I've got the 17" campy clones on 6328, and now
> they are getting harder to find, especially for the 11" wide rear
> wheel
> I have. You'll have to wait for one of the other folks still running
> stock wheels to chime in on what they've found for those, but there
> are
> a few out there.
> Good luck
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow '74 #6328
> From: Charles De Francisco [[1]mailto:[6]drfortinbras at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
> To: Mike Thomas
> Cc: [2][7]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux
> Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.
> I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that
> would work and are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and
> finding
> suitable tires in fifteen is not rewarding, So before biting the
> bullit do you think like corvette rubber would work?
> On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas
> <[1][3][8]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I
> was
> told
> that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA. And (drum roll
> please),
> they are $870 EACH!!. I was also told that there are no 245's
> available in
> the US, and they can't order either size. His theory was that they
> are
> doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now. When I
> mentioned
> the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
> installations, so there's the connection for that. Going to call
> TireBuyer
> and see what they tell me.
> Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow '74 #6328
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:[2][9]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Mike Thomas
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:25 PM
> To: [3][5][10]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
> Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6
> years old
> and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.
> Looking for
> 315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.
> At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero
> System or
> the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no
> model
> match in the 245 size. They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in 315
> and
> 245,
> but not the 335.
> At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only
> the
> Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though
> they do
> carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not
> winter).
> TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245,
> with the
> 335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.
> That is
> still $1285 before shipping and mounting. They are "temporarily
> out
> of
> stock . . .". Great . . . .
> Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only
> the
> Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335. In
> the
> 245,
> they do show the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though
> similar) in
> the Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1. These guys don't show prices
> on
> line
> but ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store. I think
> they may
> be regional to the Pacific NW.
> Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these
> two
> size
> combinations? My only choices from this search seem to be back to
> the
> Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer (but
> they're
> out of
> stock), or the Pirellis from Big O.
> Does anyone have any experience with the TireBuyer.com site? From
> them I'd
> have to find a shop to mount them, and they would likely charge a
> premium
> since I didn't buy the tires through them (though if I look a
> little
> further
> in their website, they probably have recommended installers in your
> area).
> I'm also thinking it's possible that somebody like Discount Tire
> may
> be able
> to match something, they just don't have them listed on the
> website.
> Thanks in advance for the help!
> Mike Thomas
> Pres., Panteras Northwest
> Yellow '74 #6328
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