[DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

Sat Jan 24 12:19:21 EST 2015

Haha.  I'm not wed to the 335 width for looks, but I was wondering what
width I could go down to with the 11' years.  I have 315's on there now, but
certainly would consider going down to a 305 if it increases my choices of
available tires.

If I'm translating a 335/35 to a 305 width, what would be the change in tire
height either staying at the 35 sidewall or going up to a 305/40?

Thanks, Mike Thomas

From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:14 AM
To: Mike Thomas; 'Charles De Francisco'
Cc: De Tomaso List
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

"I've got the 17" campy clones on 6328, and now they are getting harder to
find, especially for the 11" wide rear wheel I have."
>> I would disagree with that generalization; there are limited choices
because you are set on having a 335 section width for what would presumably
be purely aesthetic reasons and then that coupled with finding a matching
245 for the front.
A 335 is the tire of choice for wide body cars on a 13" rim, it is not
ideally suited to an 11" rim width. The 305 or 315 widths are more
applicable and I think you'll find far more choice once you get your Jenny
Craig membership and slim down that butt a little :)
Julian

From: Charles De Francisco [mailto:drfortinbras at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
To: Mike Thomas
Cc: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.  

I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that would
work and are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and finding suitable
tires in fifteen is not rewarding,    So before biting the bullit do you
think like corvette rubber would work?

On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net
<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net%20%3cmailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>
<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:

So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I was told
that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA.  And (drum roll please),
they are $870 EACH!!.  I was also told that there are no 245's available in
the US, and they can't order either size.  His theory was that they are
doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now.  When I mentioned
the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
installations, so there's the connection for that.  Going to call TireBuyer
and see what they tell me.

Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.

Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328

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Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge

Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6 years old
and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.  Looking for
315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.

At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero System or
the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no model
match in the 245 size.  They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in 315 and 245,
but not the 335.

At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only the
Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though they do
carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not winter).

TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245, with the
335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.  That is
still $1285 before shipping and mounting.  They are "temporarily out of
stock . . .".  Great . . . .

Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only the
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335.  In the 245,
they do show the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though similar) in
the Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1.  These guys don't show prices on line
but ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store.  I think they may
be regional to the Pacific NW.

Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these two size
combinations?  My only choices from this search seem to be back to the
Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer (but they're out of
stock), or the Pirellis from Big O.

Does anyone have any experience with the TireBuyer.com site?  From them I'd
have to find a shop to mount them, and they would likely charge a premium
since I didn't buy the tires through them (though if I look a little further
in their website, they probably have recommended installers in your area).
I'm also thinking it's possible that somebody like Discount Tire may be able
to match something, they just don't have them listed on the website.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328

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   Haha.  I'm not wed to the 335 width for looks, but I was wondering what
   width I could go down to with the 11' years.  I have 315's on there
   now, but certainly would consider going down to a 305 if it increases
   my choices of available tires.

   If I'm translating a 335/35 to a 305 width, what would be the change in
   tire height either staying at the 35 sidewall or going up to a 305/40?

   Thanks, Mike Thomas

   From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:14 AM
   To: Mike Thomas; 'Charles De Francisco'
   Cc: De Tomaso List
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

"I've got the 17" campy clones on 6328, and now they are getting harder to find,
 especially for the 11" wide rear wheel I have."
>> I would disagree with that generalization; there are limited choices because
you are set on having a 335 section width for what would presumably be purely ae
sthetic reasons and then that coupled with finding a matching 245 for the front.
A 335 is the tire of choice for wide body cars on a 13" rim, it is not ideally s
uited to an 11" rim width. The 305 or 315 widths are more applicable and I think
 you'll find far more choice once you get your Jenny Craig membership and slim d
own that butt a little :)
Julian
From: Charles De Francisco [[1]mailto:drfortinbras at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
To: Mike Thomas
Cc: [2]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.

I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that would work an
d are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and finding suitable tires in fif
teen is not rewarding,    So before biting the bullit do you think like corvette
 rubber would work?

On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas <[3]mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbef
thomas at comcast.net> > wrote:

So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I was told
that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA.  And (drum roll please),
they are $870 EACH!!.  I was also told that there are no 245's available in
the US, and they can't order either size.  His theory was that they are
doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now.  When I mentioned
the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
installations, so there's the connection for that.  Going to call TireBuyer
and see what they tell me.

Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.

Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328

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f Mike Thomas
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:25 PM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge