[DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

Bill Moore bill at incendium.com
Sat Jan 24 12:00:09 EST 2015


#6328 .really, you have this car,  never seen it.



Cheers,

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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> </div><div>Date:2015-01-24  9:14 AM  (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>,'Charles De Francisco' <drfortinbras at gmail.com> </div><div>Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux </div><div>
</div>"I’ve got the 17” campy clones on 6328, and now they are getting harder to find, especially for the 11” wide rear wheel I have.">> I would disagree with that generalization; there are limited choices because you are set on having a 335 section width for what would presumably be purely aesthetic reasons and then that coupled with finding a matching 245 for the front.A 335 is the tire of choice for wide body cars on a 13" rim, it is not ideally suited to an 11" rim width. The 305 or 315 widths are more applicable and I think you'll find far more choice once you get your Jenny Craig membership and slim down that butt a little :)Julian
From: Charles De Francisco [mailto:drfortinbras at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
To: Mike Thomas
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux



Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.  

I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that would work and are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and finding suitable tires in fifteen is not rewarding,    So before biting the bullit do you think like corvette rubber would work?

On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:

So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I was told
that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA.  And (drum roll please),
they are $870 EACH!!.  I was also told that there are no 245's available in
the US, and they can't order either size.  His theory was that they are
doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now.  When I mentioned
the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
installations, so there's the connection for that.  Going to call TireBuyer
and see what they tell me.

Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.

Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328


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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:25 PM
To: detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge

Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6 years old
and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.  Looking for
315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.

At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero System or
the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no model
match in the 245 size.  They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in 315 and 245,
but not the 335.

At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only the
Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though they do
carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not winter).

TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245, with the
335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.  That is
still $1285 before shipping and mounting.  They are "temporarily out of
stock . . .".  Great . . . .

Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only the
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335.  In the 245,
they do show the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though similar) in
the Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1.  These guys don't show prices on line
but ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store.  I think they may
be regional to the Pacific NW.

Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these two size
combinations?  My only choices from this search seem to be back to the
Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer (but they're out of
stock), or the Pirellis from Big O.

Does anyone have any experience with the TireBuyer.com site?  From them I'd
have to find a shop to mount them, and they would likely charge a premium
since I didn't buy the tires through them (though if I look a little further
in their website, they probably have recommended installers in your area).
I'm also thinking it's possible that somebody like Discount Tire may be able
to match something, they just don't have them listed on the website.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328




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"Ive got the 17 campy clones on 6328, and now they are getting harder to find, e
specially for the 11 wide rear wheel I have."
>> I would disagree with that generalization; there are limited choices because
you are set on having a 335 section width for what would presumably be purely ae
sthetic reasons and then that coupled with finding a matching 245 for the front.
A 335 is the tire of choice for wide body cars on a 13" rim, it is not ideally s
uited to an 11" rim width. The 305 or 315 widths are more applicable and I think
you'll find far more choice once you get your Jenny Craig membership and slim d
own that butt a little :)
Julian
From: Charles De Francisco [mailto:drfortinbras at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
To: Mike Thomas
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux



Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.

I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that would work an
d are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and finding suitable tires in fif
teen is not rewarding,    So before biting the bullit do you think like corvette
rubber would work?

On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbeftho
mas at comcast.net> > wrote:

So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I was told
that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA.  And (drum roll please),
they are $870 EACH!!.  I was also told that there are no 245's available in
the US, and they can't order either size.  His theory was that they are
doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now.  When I mentioned
the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
installations, so there's the connection for that.  Going to call TireBuyer
and see what they tell me.

Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.

Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328


-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <javascript:;> ] On Behalf Of M
ike Thomas
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:25 PM
To: detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge

Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6 years old
and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.  Looking for
315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.

At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero System or
the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no model
match in the 245 size.  They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in 315 and 245,
but not the 335.

At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only the
Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though they do
carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not winter).

TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245, with the
335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.  That is
still $1285 before shipping and mounting.  They are "temporarily out of
stock . . .".  Great . . . .

Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only the
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335.  In the 245,
they do show the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though similar) in
the Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1.  These guys don't show prices on line
but ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store.  I think they may
be regional to the Pacific NW.

Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these two size
combinations?  My only choices from this search seem to be back to the
Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer (but they're out of
stock), or the Pirellis from Big O.

Does anyone have any experience with the TireBuyer.com site?  From them I'd
have to find a shop to mount them, and they would likely charge a premium
since I didn't buy the tires through them (though if I look a little further
in their website, they probably have recommended installers in your area).
I'm also thinking it's possible that somebody like Discount Tire may be able
to match something, they just don't have them listed on the website.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328




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   #6328 .really, you have this car,  never seen it.

   Cheers,

   Bill Moore

   Incendium Supply

   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------

   From: Julian Kift

   Date:2015-01-24 9:14 AM (GMT-07:00)

   To: Mike Thomas ,'Charles De Francisco'

   Cc: De Tomaso List

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux

   "I've got the 17" campy clones on 6328, and now they are getting harder
   to find, especially for the 11" wide rear wheel I have.">> I would
   disagree with that generalization; there are limited choices because
   you are set on having a 335 section width for what would presumably be
   purely aesthetic reasons and then that coupled with finding a matching
   245 for the front.A 335 is the tire of choice for wide body cars on a
   13" rim, it is not ideally suited to an 11" rim width. The 305 or 315
   widths are more applicable and I think you'll find far more choice once
   you get your Jenny Craig membership and slim down that butt a little
   :)Julian
   From: Charles De Francisco [mailto:drfortinbras at gmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
   To: Mike Thomas
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux
   Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.
   I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that
   would work and are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and finding
   suitable tires in fifteen is not rewarding,    So before biting the
   bullit do you think like corvette rubber would work?
   On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net
   <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> > wrote:
   So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I was
   told
   that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA.  And (drum roll
   please),
   they are $870 EACH!!.  I was also told that there are no 245's
   available in
   the US, and they can't order either size.  His theory was that they are
   doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now.  When I
   mentioned
   the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
   installations, so there's the connection for that.  Going to call
   TireBuyer
   and see what they tell me.
   Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.
   Mike Thomas
   Pres., Panteras Northwest
   Yellow '74 #6328
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <javascript:;> ] On
   Behalf Of Mike Thomas
   Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:25 PM
   To: detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
   Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6
   years old
   and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.
   Looking for
   315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.
   At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero System
   or
   the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no
   model
   match in the 245 size.  They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in 315 and
   245,
   but not the 335.
   At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only the
   Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though they
   do
   carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not
   winter).
   TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245, with
   the
   335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.
   That is
   still $1285 before shipping and mounting.  They are "temporarily out of
   stock . . .".  Great . . . .
   Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only the
   Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335.  In the
   245,
   they do show the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though
   similar) in
   the Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1.  These guys don't show prices on
   line
   but ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store.  I think they
   may
   be regional to the Pacific NW.
   Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these two
   size
   combinations?  My only choices from this search seem to be back to the
   Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer (but they're
   out of
   stock), or the Pirellis from Big O.
   Does anyone have any experience with the TireBuyer.com site?  From them
   I'd
   have to find a shop to mount them, and they would likely charge a
   premium
   since I didn't buy the tires through them (though if I look a little
   further
   in their website, they probably have recommended installers in your
   area).
   I'm also thinking it's possible that somebody like Discount Tire may be
   able
   to match something, they just don't have them listed on the website.
   Thanks in advance for the help!
   Mike Thomas
   Pres., Panteras Northwest
   Yellow '74 #6328
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   "Ive got the 17 campy clones on 6328, and now they are getting harder
   to find, e
   specially for the 11 wide rear wheel I have."
   >> I would disagree with that generalization; there are limited choices
   because
   you are set on having a 335 section width for what would presumably be
   purely ae
   sthetic reasons and then that coupled with finding a matching 245 for
   the front.
   A 335 is the tire of choice for wide body cars on a 13" rim, it is not
   ideally s
   uited to an 11" rim width. The 305 or 315 widths are more applicable
   and I think
   you'll find far more choice once you get your Jenny Craig membership
   and slim d
   own that butt a little :)
   Julian
   From: Charles De Francisco [mailto:drfortinbras at gmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:20 AM
   To: Mike Thomas
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge - Part Deux
   Hi mike .........CHARLES 5346.
   I'm wondering what would be contempory tire combo for pantera that
   would work an
   d are available. I still have the 15 in rubber and finding suitable
   tires in fif
   teen is not rewarding,    So before biting the bullit do you think like
   corvette
   rubber would work?
   On Friday, January 23, 2015, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net
   <mailto:mbeftho
   mas at comcast.net> > wrote:
   So, I called Big O to ask about the Pirelli P-Zero System, and I was
   told
   that there are only 2 of the 335 left IN THE USofA.  And (drum roll
   please),
   they are $870 EACH!!.  I was also told that there are no 245's
   available in
   the US, and they can't order either size.  His theory was that they are
   doing a model changeover and we're out of luck for now.  When I
   mentioned
   the TIreBuyer.com site, he said that they drop ship to Big O for
   installations, so there's the connection for that.  Going to call
   TireBuyer
   and see what they tell me.
   Looking more and more like the Khumies are my only choice.
   Mike Thomas
   Pres., Panteras Northwest
   Yellow '74 #6328
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <javascript:;> ] On
   Behalf Of M
   ike Thomas
   Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:25 PM
   To: detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
   Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6
   years old
   and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.
   Looking for
   315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.
   At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero System
   or
   the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no
   model
   match in the 245 size.  They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in 315 and
   245,
   but not the 335.
   At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only the
   Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though they
   do
   carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not
   winter).
   TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245, with
   the
   335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.
   That is
   still $1285 before shipping and mounting.  They are "temporarily out of
   stock . . .".  Great . . . .
   Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only the
   Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335.  In the
   245,
   they do show the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though
   similar) in
   the Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1.  These guys don't show prices on
   line
   but ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store.  I think they
   may
   be regional to the Pacific NW.
   Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these two
   size
   combinations?  My only choices from this search seem to be back to the
   Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer (but they're
   out of
   stock), or the Pirellis from Big O.
   Does anyone have any experience with the TireBuyer.com site?  From them
   I'd
   have to find a shop to mount them, and they would likely charge a
   premium
   since I didn't buy the tires through them (though if I look a little
   further
   in their website, they probably have recommended installers in your
   area).
   I'm also thinking it's possible that somebody like Discount Tire may be
   able
   to match something, they just don't have them listed on the website.
   Thanks in advance for the help!
   Mike Thomas
   Pres., Panteras Northwest
   Yellow '74 #6328
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