[DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge

Brent Stewart bjbstewart at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 23 12:15:39 EST 2015 

Whoa - that question is specific to your own car. You can't generalize that at all.  So many factors that I'm sure others will chime in on, but 335 vs 315 is a personal thing...

 

     On Friday, January 23, 2015 9:02 AM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   

   Has anyone ever done any actual testing showing 335s superior to 315s?

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  From: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
  To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
  Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
  Sent: Fri, Jan 23, 2015 12:39 am
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
  I have 245/40 - 17- P-Zero's on the front of my narrow body and they seem
perfect. They will "very" slightly rub with two people and luggage on a dip in
the road (at speed), and ever-so-lightly rub on the inside (lock-to-lock), but
these rare events hardly outweigh the look, feel, and performance. IMHO. But as
I slowly climb to 70, my foot has lightened up a bit.
John
4348

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wro
te:
>
> Julian,
>
> 245/45-17 are way too tall--even taller than the rears which is decidedly
goofy. 245/45 is the size for 16-inch wheels though. Those are the same diameter

as 245/40-17.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 21:37, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  It's been a while since I purchased narrow body tires, but I seem to
>>  recall 245/45-17 being an optional size, those are available in the PS2
>>  at tire rack.
>>  Julian
>>> From: [3]mbefthomas at comcast.net
>>> To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>>> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:25:21 -0800
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
>>>
>>> Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6
>>  years old
>>> and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.
>>  Looking for
>>> 315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.
>>>
>>> At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero
>>  System or
>>> the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no
>>  model
>>> match in the 245 size. or Discount Tire, there are no model matches
>>  in the
>>> Michelin or Pirelli in the 245. They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS in
>>  315
>>> and 245, but not the 335.
>>>
>>> At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only
>>  the
>>> Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though they
>>  do
>>> carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not
>>  winter).
>>>
>>> TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245, with
>>  the
>>> 335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.
>>  That is
>>> still $1285 before shipping and mounting. They are "temporarily out
>>  of
>>> stock . . .". Great . . . .
>>>
>>> Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only
>>  the
>>> Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335. In the
>>  245,
>>> they have the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though similar
>>  in the
>>> Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1). These guys don't show prices on line
>>  but
>>> ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store. I think these
>>  guys may
>>> be regional to the Pacific NW.
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these two
>>  size
>>> combinations? My only choices from this search seem to be back to the
>>> Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer, or mix/match
>>  with
>>> something else. Does anyone have any experience with the
>>  TireBuyer.com
>>> site? From them I'd have to find a shop to mount them, and they would
>>> likely charge a premium since I didn't buy the tires through them
>>  (though if
>>> I look a little further in their website, they probably have
>>  recommended
>>> installers in your area). I'm also thinking it's possible that
>>  somebody
>>> like Discount Tire may be able to match something, they just don't
>>  have them
>>> listed on the website.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for the help!
>>> Mike Thomas
>>> Pres., Panteras Northwest
>>> Yellow '74 #6328
>>>
>>>
>>>
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   Whoa - that question is specific to your own car. You can't generalize
   that at all.  So many factors that I'm sure others will chime in on,
   but 335 vs 315 is a personal thing...
   On Friday, January 23, 2015 9:02 AM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     Has anyone ever done any actual testing showing 335s superior to
   315s?
     -----Original Message-----
     From: John Donahue <[1]demongusta at me.com>
     To: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     Cc: detomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
     Sent: Fri, Jan 23, 2015 12:39 am
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
     I have 245/40 - 17- P-Zero's on the front of my narrow body and they
   seem
   perfect. They will "very" slightly rub with two people and luggage on a
   dip in
   the road (at speed), and ever-so-lightly rub on the inside
   (lock-to-lock), but
   these rare events hardly outweigh the look, feel, and performance.
   IMHO. But as
   I slowly climb to 70, my foot has lightened up a bit.
   John
   4348
   > On Jan 22, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[1][4]detomaso at poca.com> wro
   te:
   >
   > Julian,
   >
   > 245/45-17 are way too tall--even taller than the rears which is
   decidedly
   goofy. 245/45 is the size for 16-inch wheels though. Those are the same
   diameter
   as 245/40-17.
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   > On Jan 22, 2015, at 21:37, Julian Kift
   <[2][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >>  It's been a while since I purchased narrow body tires, but I seem
   to
   >>  recall 245/45-17 being an optional size, those are available in the
   PS2
   >>  at tire rack.
   >>  Julian
   >>> From: [3][6]mbefthomas at comcast.net
   >>> To: [4][7]detomaso at poca.com
   >>> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:25:21 -0800
   >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Tires a Challenge
   >>>
   >>> Started shopping for new tires as the Khumo Ecsta XS's are about 6
   >>  years old
   >>> and are really a handful when it's cool and the least bit damp.
   >>  Looking for
   >>> 315 or 335/35 17" 's for the rear, 245/40 17" 's for the front.
   >>>
   >>> At Tire Rack, in the 335 size, there are only the Pirelli P-Zero
   >>  System or
   >>> the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2, at $577 and $494 respectively, and no
   >>  model
   >>> match in the 245 size. or Discount Tire, there are no model matches
   >>  in the
   >>> Michelin or Pirelli in the 245. They do sell the Khumo's Ecsta XS
   in
   >>  315
   >>> and 245, but not the 335.
   >>>
   >>> At Discount Tire, They don't even carry anything in a 315, and only
   >>  the
   >>> Michelin Pilot Sport in a 335, no model match in the 245, though
   they
   >>  do
   >>> carry a Pilot Sport A/S-3, which I translate as all season 3 (not
   >>  winter).
   >>>
   >>> TireBuyer.com has Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's in the 335 and 245,
   with
   >>  the
   >>> 335's a little cheaper at $539, and the 245 are reasonable at $189.
   >>  That is
   >>> still $1285 before shipping and mounting. They are "temporarily out
   >>  of
   >>> stock . . .". Great . . . .
   >>>
   >>> Big O Tires (.com) has Goodyear Eagle F1 GS 03 in the 315, but only
   >>  the
   >>> Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Pirelli P-Zero System in a 335. In the
   >>  245,
   >>> they have the Pirelli P-Zero System, but not a match (though
   similar
   >>  in the
   >>> Michelin and Goodyear Eagle F1). These guys don't show prices on
   line
   >>  but
   >>> ask you to request a quote from a local Big 0 store. I think these
   >>  guys may
   >>> be regional to the Pacific NW.
   >>>
   >>> Any other suggestions on tires I can get for the street in these
   two
   >>  size
   >>> combinations? My only choices from this search seem to be back to
   the
   >>> Khumos, the Michelin's for a ransom from the Tire Buyer, or
   mix/match
   >>  with
   >>> something else. Does anyone have any experience with the
   >>  TireBuyer.com
   >>> site? From them I'd have to find a shop to mount them, and they
   would
   >>> likely charge a premium since I didn't buy the tires through them
   >>  (though if
   >>> I look a little further in their website, they probably have
   >>  recommended
   >>> installers in your area). I'm also thinking it's possible that
   >>  somebody
   >>> like Discount Tire may be able to match something, they just don't
   >>  have them
   >>> listed on the website.
   >>>
   >>> Thanks in advance for the help!
   >>> Mike Thomas
   >>> Pres., Panteras Northwest
   >>> Yellow '74 #6328
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
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