[DeTomaso] Barrett-Jackson Ring Bros Panteras
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 19 13:25:56 EST 2015
Your absolutely correct Ed. I didn't know that this was a charitable
auction. Besides driving up prices because of the Charitable nature of the
auction , sometimes the buyer can derive benefits in the form of a tax
deductions for purchases made at auctions where 100% of the proceeds go to
charity. Richard Rawlings could probably use some tax deductions with the
apparent income he is making from his car business,his restaurant, and all
his recent appearances on commercials for Dodge. Also any contributions to
charity certainly won't hurt his image as a beer swilling redneck. JMHO
Boyd
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
> I believe the proceeds for Ring Bros went to charity so those are usually
> on a different level then a car that is not for charity. I remember Don
> Johnson's convertible challenger with a 318 went for $500,000 because it
> was for charity. It was from the Miami Vice show.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
> > On Jan 19, 2015, at 09:43, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I smell a rat! Richard Rawlings doesn't seem to be a big fan of
> > Panteras (if past shows are to be believed) but then again this is not
> > really a Pantera!. He also seems to be driven by only one thing and
> > that is Profit! How he expects to make a profit on a $330,000 custom
> > car that used to be a pantera is beyond my ability to comprehend. It
> > reminds me of a shill transaction. For those of you who have not had a
> > A lot of experience at auctions of dealing with scam artists, a shill
> > is someone at an auction who is running up the bids for the benefit of
> > the seller or the auction house. I have no evidence just a gut feeling
> > hat this whole thing stinks and doesn't seem to make sense except as a
> > ploy to build up a perception that the market value for this particular
> > car or ring Bros creations is higher then one would expect and this
> > sale could be used to help establish a record or base line to establish
> > a market value. Any one else think it's odd? or am I just getting
> > Paranoid and or cynical?
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Robert Pink
> > <[1]robpink2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A A Yep it was bought by Richard Rawlings from the Fast and Loud TV
> > showA
> > A A On Saturday, January 17, 2015, James coyne
> > <[1][2]tecnosound at hotmail.com>
> > A A wrote:
> > A A A AA A I see that the Fabulous Ring Brothers Pantera "ADRNLN"
> > sold for
> > A A A AA A $330,000.00
> > A A A AA A From: [2][3]ihannington286720mi at comcast.net
> > A A A AA A To: [3][4]detomaso at poca.com
> > A A A AA A Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:40:42 -0500
> > A A A AA A Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Barrett-Jackson Panteras
> > A A A From: Ian H [mailto:[4][5]ian351 at comcast.net]
> > A A A Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 10:18 PM
> > A A A To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'
> > A A A Subject: Barrett-Jackson Panteras
> > A A A There are 6 Panteras at barrett-Jackson this year.AA One
> > sold
> > A A A yesterday for
> > A A A $77,000 and two sold today one for $55,000 the other for
> > $123,000.
> > A A
> > A [1][5][6]http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1972-
> > DE-TO
> > A A A MASO-PANTERA-1
> > A A A 81585
> > A A
> > A [2][6][7]http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1972-
> > DE-TO
> > A A A MASO-PANTERA-1
> > A A A 80418
> > A A A Tomorrow there will be three more, including the much talked
> > about
> > A A A Ring
> > A A A Brothers Pantera.
> > A A A Should be interesting......
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> > 8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> > 12. mailto:tecnosound at hotmail.com
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> http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1972-DE-TOMASO-PANTERA-1
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Your absolutely correct Ed. I didn't know that this was a charitable
auction. Besides driving up prices because of the Charitable nature of
the auction , sometimes the buyer can derive benefits in the form of a
tax deductions for A purchases made at auctions where 100% of the
proceeds go to charity. Richard Rawlings could probably use some tax
deductions with the apparent income he is making from his car
business,his restaurant, and all his recent appearances on commercials
for Dodge. Also any contributions to charity certainly won't hurt his
image as a beer swilling redneck. JMHO
Boyd
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com>
wrote:
I believe the proceeds for Ring Bros went to charity so those are
usually on a different level then a car that is not for charity. I
remember Don Johnson's convertible challenger with a 318 went for
$500,000 because it was for charity. It was from the Miami Vice
show.
Ed
Sent from my iPhone 5
> On Jan 19, 2015, at 09:43, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>A A I smell a rat! Richard Rawlings doesn't seem to be a big fan
of
>A A Panteras (if past shows are to be believed) but then again
this is not
>A A really a Pantera!. He also seems to be driven by only one
thing and
>A A that is Profit! How he expects to make a profit on a $330,000
custom
>A A car that used to be a pantera is beyond my ability to
comprehend. It
>A A reminds me of a shill transaction. For those of you who have
not had a
>A A A lot of experience at auctions of dealing with scam artists,
a shill
>A A is someone at an auction who is running up the bids for the
benefit of
>A A the seller or the auction house. I have no evidence just a gut
feeling
>A A hat this whole thing stinks and doesn't seem to make sense
except as a
>A A ploy to build up a perception that the market value for this
particular
>A A car or ring Bros creations is higher then one would expect and
this
>A A sale could be used to help establish a record or base line to
establish
>A A a market value. Any one else think it's odd? or am I just
getting
>A A Paranoid and or cynical?
>A A Boyd
>
>A A On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Robert Pink
>A A <[1][3]robpink2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>A A A AA A Yep it was bought by Richard Rawlings from the Fast
and Loud TV
>A A A showA
>A A A AA A On Saturday, January 17, 2015, James coyne
>A A A <[1][2][4]tecnosound at hotmail.com>
>A A A AA A wrote:
>A A A AA AA A AAA A I see that the Fabulous Ring Brothers
Pantera "ADRNLN"
>A A A sold for
>A A A AA AA A AAA A $330,000.00
>A A A AA AA A AAA A From:
[2][3][5]ihannington286720mi at comcast.net
>A A A AA AA A AAA A To: [3][4][6]detomaso at poca.com
>A A A AA AA A AAA A Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:40:42 -0500
>A A A AA AA A AAA A Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Barrett-Jackson
Panteras
>A A A AA AA A From: Ian H [mailto:[4][5][7]ian351 at comcast.net]
>A A A AA AA A Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 10:18 PM
>A A A AA AA A To: 'DeTomaso Mail List'
>A A A AA AA A Subject: Barrett-Jackson Panteras
>A A A AA AA A There are 6 Panteras at barrett-Jackson this
year.AAA One
>A A A sold
>A A A AA AA A yesterday for
>A A A AA AA A $77,000 and two sold today one for $55,000 the
other for
>A A A $123,000.
>A A A AA A
>A A A A
[1][5][6][8]http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1972
-
>A A A DE-TO
>A A A AA AA A MASO-PANTERA-1
>A A A AA AA A 81585
>A A A AA A
>A A A A
[2][6][7][9]http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1972
-
>A A A DE-TO
>A A A AA AA A MASO-PANTERA-1
>A A A AA AA A 80418
>A A A AA AA A Tomorrow there will be three more, including the
much talked
>A A A about
>A A A AA AA A Ring
>A A A AA AA A Brothers Pantera.
>A A A AA AA A Should be interesting......
>A A A AA AA A Ian
>A A A AA AA A AAA A
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