[DeTomaso] Robs Great Pantera Adventure Search
Mike Reilly
reillyms at live.com
Wed Feb 25 00:07:40 EST 2015
Rob, a bumper switch does entail filling some holes and paint work but is not huge work in the context of the purchase price of a car that you otherwise really like. The later bumpers had bigger holes for the 5mph rams and also smaller holes in different locations from earlier bumpers. In the archives you might find folks who have written about the process. I have the L bumpers and from some angles I like them better than the early bumpers plus the way the front is designed it can save your paint from chips along with your windshield. Tom Tjaarda did a pretty good job with the L bumper design compared to other car designer dealing with the U.S. laws in that era. You see a lot of the Europeans buying U.S. L’s and converting them to the smaller bumpers as well.
From: Robert W. Garven Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:58 PM
To: Mike Reilly
Cc: MyCars, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
Mike,
Thanks for the info. How hard is it to switch the bumpers. I assume there is bodywork involved…
Has anyone heard of hayden restorations who did this car, the seller does not list the VIN.
These cars with the fancy 351’s how reliable are they. I am assuming it all comes down to who built the motor….
Im trying not to be impulsive. My wife said she liked the black car and that is the first positive thing she
said since I told her she would have to park her miata outside…….. I guess I could bondo the hood vents! :-P
Right now I am including all cars in my search just very partial to the early flat deck lid red cars. Plus I bought the early
owners manual! HAAA
Rob
On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
Rob, the link to the black car comes up as a 1973 L model that has had
the late U.S. bumpers taken off and replaced by earlier or Euro
bumpers. You may also want to include later cars in your search as you
can change the L U.S. versions to Euro versions and get that look you
want. You also benefit from all the running updates DeTomaso and Ford
did to the cars. If you search in the registry using the feature
search options you can see how the later Euro cars look and even see
quite a few L models with the bumpers changed. Considering later cars
and budgeting to switch the bumpers out would widen your options as you
can look at 2.5 years worth of more cars (1972.5-1974) rather than just
the 1971-1972.5 (1.5 year) range : ) Mike
From: [1]MyCars
Sent: aTuesdaya, aFebruarya a24a, a2015 a7a:a37a aPM
To: [2]Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
I remember Dallas Raines having a Chevy engine installed in his car, so
I did a quick web search, only to find that he has owned more than one
Pantera. I hope you find what you are looking for.
1st half of the fun is the search for a Pantera
2nd half of the fun is owning and driving your Pantera
3rd half of the fun is meeting up with other Pantera owners (at track
events, meetings, shows, dinners, ...), they are a great group of
people
4th half of the fun is modifying your Pantera to your own tastes
Panteras are just too much fun, hope you can handle it
Roydon
On 2/24/2015 6:58 PM, Robert W. Garven Jr. wrote:
Pantera Friends,
Is there anyone near Orange Ca, that wants to go with or meet me
to
look at an early Pantera
at PIM on Friday, March 6th? Its Dallas Raines old car:
[1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Coupe-1971-detomaso-pant
era-/321671627009?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae51f8101&item=321671627009
&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
You can email me off list. I need to go start looking at some
cars and
this is the closest! I live about 3 hours away so would like to
meet
near 11-12
just to kick the tires. Lots of stuff I dont like on this car but
talked to the PO and he had nice things to say, he sold the car
becuase
he needed the
I would like to have someone that knows more than me be there.
As all of you know I am looking for a perfect early car. I am not
sure
I am going to find one that I dont have to do lots of work on.
However new cars keep popping up each day to tease me, like this
one
below. I really wish this car was red and a earlier car, I feel
drawn to it like a moth to a lightbulb. I talked to the owner and
he
was very kind and was asking a fair price, but I want a red car
if
possible.
Hey but Panthers are black aren't they?????
I know many of you think I am being unrealistic about finding a
perfect
stock car, but I still am holding out hope. If I can find a car
that
the owners
has done lots of the work then I can stop bugging you all about
getting
a car and start sending out steering wheel, and what color to
paint
wheel posts!
HAAA
[2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/321675854303?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ss
PageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Rob Garven
I have a question about the list. I keep getting my emails
without
photos just links for them, is that normal. When someone
emailed me back his reply had my photos attached?
Ps what is the difference between a ZF-1 & ZF-2
References
1.
[3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Coupe-1971-detomaso-pant
era-/321671627009?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae51f8101&item=321671627009
&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
2.
[4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/321675854303?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ss
PageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Rob, a bumper switch does entail filling some holes and paint work but
is not huge work in the context of the purchase price of a car that you
otherwise really like. The later bumpers had bigger holes for the 5mph
rams and also smaller holes in different locations from earlier
bumpers. In the archives you might find folks who have written about
the process. I have the L bumpers and from some angles I like them
better than the early bumpers plus the way the front is designed it can
save your paint from chips along with your windshield. Tom Tjaarda did
a pretty good job with the L bumper design compared to other car
designer dealing with the U.S. laws in that era. You see a lot of the
Europeans buying U.S. Las and converting them to the smaller bumpers as
well.
From: [1]Robert W. Garven Jr.
Sent: aTuesdaya, aFebruarya a24a, a2015 a8a:a58a aPM
To: [2]Mike Reilly
Cc: [3]MyCars, [4]Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
Mike,
Thanks for the info. How hard is it to switch the bumpers. I assume
there is bodywork involveda|
Has anyone heard of hayden restorations who did this car, the seller
does not list the VIN.
These cars with the fancy 351as how reliable are they. I am assuming it
all comes down to who built the motora|.
Im trying not to be impulsive. My wife said she liked the black car and
that is the first positive thing she
said since I told her she would have to park her miata outsidea|a|.. I
guess I could bondo the hood vents! :-P
Right now I am including all cars in my search just very partial to the
early flat deck lid red cars. Plus I bought the early
owners manual! HAAA
Rob
On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Mike Reilly <[5]reillyms at live.com> wrote:
Rob, the link to the black car comes up as a 1973 L model that has
had
the late U.S. bumpers taken off and replaced by earlier or Euro
bumpers. You may also want to include later cars in your search as
you
can change the L U.S. versions to Euro versions and get that look you
want. You also benefit from all the running updates DeTomaso and
Ford
did to the cars. If you search in the registry using the feature
search options you can see how the later Euro cars look and even see
quite a few L models with the bumpers changed. Considering later
cars
and budgeting to switch the bumpers out would widen your options as
you
can look at 2.5 years worth of more cars (1972.5-1974) rather than
just
the 1971-1972.5 (1.5 year) range : ) Mike
From: [1]MyCars
Sent: aTuesdaya, aFebruarya a24a, a2015 a7a:a37a aPM
To: [2]Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
I remember Dallas Raines having a Chevy engine installed in his car,
so
I did a quick web search, only to find that he has owned more than
one
Pantera. I hope you find what you are looking for.
1st half of the fun is the search for a Pantera
2nd half of the fun is owning and driving your Pantera
3rd half of the fun is meeting up with other Pantera owners (at track
events, meetings, shows, dinners, ...), they are a great group of
people
4th half of the fun is modifying your Pantera to your own tastes
Panteras are just too much fun, hope you can handle it
Roydon
On 2/24/2015 6:58 PM, Robert W. Garven Jr. wrote:
Pantera Friends,
Is there anyone near Orange Ca, that wants to go with or meet me
to
look at an early Pantera
at PIM on Friday, March 6th? Its Dallas Raines old car:
[1][6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Coupe-1971-detomaso
-pant
era-/321671627009?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae51f8101&item=3216716270
09
&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
You can email me off list. I need to go start looking at some
cars and
this is the closest! I live about 3 hours away so would like to
meet
near 11-12
just to kick the tires. Lots of stuff I dont like on this car but
talked to the PO and he had nice things to say, he sold the car
becuase
he needed the
I would like to have someone that knows more than me be there.
As all of you know I am looking for a perfect early car. I am not
sure
I am going to find one that I dont have to do lots of work on.
However new cars keep popping up each day to tease me, like this
one
below. I really wish this car was red and a earlier car, I feel
drawn to it like a moth to a lightbulb. I talked to the owner and
he
was very kind and was asking a fair price, but I want a red car
if
possible.
Hey but Panthers are black aren't they?????
I know many of you think I am being unrealistic about finding a
perfect
stock car, but I still am holding out hope. If I can find a car
that
the owners
has done lots of the work then I can stop bugging you all about
getting
a car and start sending out steering wheel, and what color to
paint
wheel posts!
HAAA
[2][7]http://www.ebay.com/itm/321675854303?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l26
48&ss
PageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Rob Garven
I have a question about the list. I keep getting my emails
without
photos just links for them, is that normal. When someone
emailed me back his reply had my photos attached?
Ps what is the difference between a ZF-1 & ZF-2
References
1.
[3][8]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pantera-Coupe-1971-detomaso
-pant
era-/321671627009?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae51f8101&item=3216716270
09
&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
2.
[4][9]http://www.ebay.com/itm/321675854303?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l26
48&ss
PageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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tera-/321671627009?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4ae51f8101&item=32167162700
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