[DeTomaso] List Replies Aye (was UnHappy Motor)
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Tue Feb 24 15:09:50 EST 2015
It's aboot time we get all of the Canadianisms oot of the list replies -
A, Eh, Aye!
On 2/24/2015 11:56 AM, thomas wrote:
> Yeah, there's something with the mailing list software that causes this.
>
> The mails from the list is almost unreadable now.
>
> I hope someone can fix this soon.
>
>
>> 24 feb 2015 kl. 20:29 skrev Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>:
>>
>> What's with all the As?
>> On Monday, February 23, 2015 8:13 PM, Don Thomas
>> <don.thomas.ieee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Terry,
>> I've been running my MSD 6T with a soft touch since 89.A
>> So what are you running ?A
>> Curious minds want to know.
>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Bill Moore
>> <[1][1]bill at incendium.com>
>> wrote:
>> A A What so you run Terry ?
>> A A Cheers,
>> A A Bill Moore
>> A A Incendium Supply
>> A A Calgary
>> A A -------- Original message --------
>> A A From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
>> A A Date:2015-02-22 1:35 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> A A To: Charles McCall ,'Andy May' ,[2][2]detomaso at poca.com,Mikael
>> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Unhappy motor - looking for
>> suggestions
>> A A Exactly why I don't run MSD.A I have heard many many stories
>> just like
>> A A this.
>> A A (only my personal preference.A no flames)
>> A A Thanks Charles for sharing.
>> A A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>> A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
>> tried
>> A A A to contact us!"
>> A A Terry W. Himes
>> A A [content://com.android.email.attachmentprovider/3/767/RAW]
>> A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> A A InSight Sequence Team Lead
>> A A Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>> A A Phone: [3](818) 393-6261
>> A A Cell:A A A [4](818) 653-8213
>> A A Fax:A A A [5](818) 393-3147
>> A A [6][3]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[7][4]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> A A From: Charles McCall
>> A A
>> <[8][5]charlesmccall at gmail.com<mailto:[9][6]charlesmccall at gmail.com>>
>> A A Date: Sunday, February 22, 2015 6:38 AM
>> A A To: 'Andy May'
>> <[10][7]andymay24 at gmail.com<mailto:[11][8]andymay24 at gmail.com>>,
>> A A "[12][9]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[13][10]detomaso at poca.com>"
>> A A <[14][11]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[15][12]detomaso at poca.com>>,
>> Mikael
>> A
>> A
>> <[16][13]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:[17][14]mikael_hass at mail.tele.
>> dk>
>> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Unhappy motor - looking for suggestions
>> A A Hi all
>> A A Last fall, I commented that my engine wasn't running well.
>> Symptoms may
>> A A be found in the e-mail below, and consensus was that they
>> sounded
>> carb
>> A A related, or perhaps timing related, and a number of people
>> offered
>> A A suggestions. But the symptoms were sort of strange and didn't
>> seem
>> to
>> A A perfectly fit any of the theories as to the problem.
>> A A On a whim, over the winter I changed the MSD 6-AL electronic
>> ignition,
>> A A since I had a spare and since the last time it failed, it gave
>> some
>> A A really weird symptoms; erratic and sporadic problems. I sent the
>> box to
>> A A MSD over Christmas for analysis and they confirmed that it
>> failed
>> their
>> A A test and had some issues. OK, sounds promising but was that the
>> cause
>> A A of my problems?
>> A A It's been a harsh and snowy winter, but it has rained all week,
>> which
>> A A cleaned most of the salt from the roads. So I took the car out
>> today.
>> A A I'll feel better after a longer trip, but the first impression
>> is
>> very
>> A A positive. The hesitation and stumbling is gone, no starting
>> problems,
>> A A and the car ran very very well. I'm cautiously saying that the
>> problem
>> A A has been fixed.
>> A A I wanted to leave for posterity the fact that when the MSD box
>> fails,
>> A A it isn't always catastrophic. It would actually almost be
>> preferable if
>> A A it would, since I have a spare it and it would make the problem
>> a
>> A A little more obvious. When they start to fail they get flaky -
>> symptoms
>> A A that come and go. Both times they have failed I have started by
>> A A inspecting from top to bottom my carb, since the symptoms
>> pointed
>> in
>> A A that direction. Have an engine problem that you can't eliminate?
>> Try
>> A A looking at your electronic ignition if you have it - it can
>> cause
>> all
>> A A kinds of weird running issues.
>> A A Thanks to all who answered
>> A A A Anyway, my engine is not happy. This morning in the hotel
>> parking
>> A A lot I
>> A A A really thought that we'd have to skip today's event because
>> it
>> A A wouldn't
>> A A A start and didn't sound like it was even thinking about
>> starting.
>> A A Took
>> A A A probably 5 minutes of crank-wait-crank-wait before it fired.
>> A A Yesterday
>> A A A at the gas station it took 2-3 minutes to start, something
>> that has
>> A A A never, ever happened before. It is really hard to describe
>> the
>> A A problem
>> A A A so much of it is "feel", but I'll do my best.
>> A A A A few weeks ago I noticed that the engine would tend to
>> stumble if I
>> A A A would floor the throttle, then clear its throat and pull.
>> For
>> A A example,
>> A A A I like to heel-and-toe, just because, and when blipping the
>> throttle
>> A A it
>> A A A would stumble instead of rev. The engine also felt a little
>> rougher,
>> A A as
>> A A A though it vibrated more than I remembered it. I don't
>> remember
>> if
>> A A this
>> A A A was before or after I did a short tune-up, by adjusting the
>> valve
>> A A lash
>> A A A (I have mechanical lifters), and cleaning the K&N air filter
>> by
>> A A A applying K&N filter oil, etc. or if it is irrelevant. So I
>> was
>> A A messing
>> A A A around in the engine bay recently...
>> A A A This weekend the engine felt considerably worse. It felt
>> like
>> it
>> A A would
>> A A A stumble under partial throttle as well. It would stumble a
>> little
>> A A bit
>> A A A under trailing throttle going downhill as well, so I don't
>> think it
>> A A is
>> A A A a clogged fuel filter.
>> A A A Oil temp is perfect. Oil pressure is perfect. Water temp is
>> perfect.
>> A A A The engine idles perfectly. But if you floor the gas from
>> idle,
>> A A it'll
>> A A A stall. The engine doesn't feel crisp, it feels bloated and
>> soft, if
>> A A A that makes sense. It feels rough, and it feels like it
>> occasionally
>> A A A stumbles under constant throttle at highway speed. It pulls
>> hard
>> A A when
>> A A A accelerating, but I don't think as hard as it used to, or as
>> high (I
>> A A A have a 6500 rpm limiting chip in the MSD that it used to
>> pull
>> very
>> A A A easily to).
>> A A A Suggestions for where to begin looking? And other info that
>> would
>> A A help
>> A A A in troubleshooting?
>> A A
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>> A A A Exactly why I don't run MSD.A I have heard many many
>> stories just
>> A A like
>> A A A this.
>> A A A (only my personal preference.A no flames)
>> A A A Thanks Charles for sharing.
>> A A A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>> A A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
>> tried
>> A A A A to contact us!"
>> A A A Terry W. Himes
>> A A [content://com.android.email.attachmentprovider/3/767/RAW]
>> A A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> A A A InSight Sequence Team Lead
>> A A A Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>> A A A Phone: [24](818) 393-6261
>> A A A Cell:A A A [25](818) 653-8213
>> A A A Fax:A A A [26](818) 393-3147
>> A A A [1][27][21]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> A A A From: Charles McCall <[2][28][22]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>> A A A Date: Sunday, February 22, 2015 6:38 AM
>> A A A To: 'Andy May' <[3][29][23]andymay24 at gmail.com>,
>> "[4][30][24]detomaso at poca.com"
>> A A A <[5][31][25]detomaso at poca.com>, Mikael
>> <[6][32][26]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
>> A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Unhappy motor - looking for
>> suggestions
>> A A A Hi all
>> A A A Last fall, I commented that my engine wasn't running well.
>> Symptoms
>> A A may
>> A A A be found in the e-mail below, and consensus was that they
>> sounded
>> A A carb
>> A A A related, or perhaps timing related, and a number of people
>> offered
>> A A A suggestions. But the symptoms were sort of strange and
>> didn't
>> seem
>> A A to
>> A A A perfectly fit any of the theories as to the problem.
>> A A A On a whim, over the winter I changed the MSD 6-AL electronic
>> A A ignition,
>> A A A since I had a spare and since the last time it failed, it
>> gave
>> some
>> A A A really weird symptoms; erratic and sporadic problems. I sent
>> the box
>> A A to
>> A A A MSD over Christmas for analysis and they confirmed that it
>> failed
>> A A their
>> A A A test and had some issues. OK, sounds promising but was that
>> the
>> A A cause
>> A A A of my problems?
>> A A A It's been a harsh and snowy winter, but it has rained all
>> week,
>> A A which
>> A A A cleaned most of the salt from the roads. So I took the car
>> out
>> A A today.
>> A A A I'll feel better after a longer trip, but the first
>> impression
>> is
>> A A very
>> A A A positive. The hesitation and stumbling is gone, no starting
>> A A problems,
>> A A A and the car ran very very well. I'm cautiously saying that
>> the
>> A A problem
>> A A A has been fixed.
>> A A A I wanted to leave for posterity the fact that when the MSD
>> box
>> A A fails,
>> A A A it isn't always catastrophic. It would actually almost be
>> preferable
>> A A if
>> A A A it would, since I have a spare it and it would make the
>> problem a
>> A A A little more obvious. When they start to fail they get flaky
>> -
>> A A symptoms
>> A A A that come and go. Both times they have failed I have started
>> by
>> A A A inspecting from top to bottom my carb, since the symptoms
>> pointed in
>> A A A that direction. Have an engine problem that you can't
>> eliminate? Try
>> A A A looking at your electronic ignition if you have it - it can
>> cause
>> A A all
>> A A A kinds of weird running issues.
>> A A A Thanks to all who answered
>> A A A A A Anyway, my engine is not happy. This morning in the
>> hotel
>> parking
>> A A A lot I
>> A A A A A really thought that we'd have to skip today's event
>> because it
>> A A A wouldn't
>> A A A A A start and didn't sound like it was even thinking about
>> starting.
>> A A A Took
>> A A A A A probably 5 minutes of crank-wait-crank-wait before it
>> fired.
>> A A A Yesterday
>> A A A A A at the gas station it took 2-3 minutes to start,
>> something that
>> A A has
>> A A A A A never, ever happened before. It is really hard to
>> describe the
>> A A A problem
>> A A A A A so much of it is "feel", but I'll do my best.
>> A A A A A A few weeks ago I noticed that the engine would tend to
>> stumble
>> A A if I
>> A A A A A would floor the throttle, then clear its throat and
>> pull.
>> For
>> A A A example,
>> A A A A A I like to heel-and-toe, just because, and when blipping
>> the
>> A A throttle
>> A A A it
>> A A A A A would stumble instead of rev. The engine also felt a
>> little
>> A A rougher,
>> A A A as
>> A A A A A though it vibrated more than I remembered it. I don't
>> remember if
>> A A A this
>> A A A A A was before or after I did a short tune-up, by adjusting
>> the valve
>> A A A lash
>> A A A A A (I have mechanical lifters), and cleaning the K&N air
>> filter by
>> A A A A A applying K&N filter oil, etc. or if it is irrelevant.
>> So
>> I was
>> A A A messing
>> A A A A A around in the engine bay recently...
>> A A A A A This weekend the engine felt considerably worse. It
>> felt
>> like it
>> A A A would
>> A A A A A stumble under partial throttle as well. It would
>> stumble
>> a little
>> A A A bit
>> A A A A A under trailing throttle going downhill as well, so I
>> don't think
>> A A it
>> A A A is
>> A A A A A a clogged fuel filter.
>> A A A A A Oil temp is perfect. Oil pressure is perfect. Water
>> temp
>> is
>> A A perfect.
>> A A A A A The engine idles perfectly. But if you floor the gas
>> from
>> idle,
>> A A A it'll
>> A A A A A stall. The engine doesn't feel crisp, it feels bloated
>> and soft,
>> A A if
>> A A A A A that makes sense. It feels rough, and it feels like it
>> A A occasionally
>> A A A A A stumbles under constant throttle at highway speed. It
>> pulls hard
>> A A A when
>> A A A A A accelerating, but I don't think as hard as it used to,
>> or
>> as high
>> A A (I
>> A A A A A have a 6500 rpm limiting chip in the MSD that it used
>> to
>> pull
>> A A very
>> A A A A A easily to).
>> A A A A A Suggestions for where to begin looking? And other info
>> that would
>> A A A help
>> A A A A A in troubleshooting?
>> A A A !DSPAM:54568258260291209923907!
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>> 5. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
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>> 8. mailto:[49]charlesmccall at gmail.com
>> 9. mailto:[50]charlesmccall at gmail.com
>> 10. mailto:[51]andymay24 at gmail.com
>> 11. mailto:[52]andymay24 at gmail.com
>> 12. mailto:[53]detomaso at poca.com
>> 13. mailto:[54]detomaso at poca.com
>> 14. mailto:[55]detomaso at poca.com
>> 15. mailto:[56]detomaso at poca.com
>> 16. mailto:[57]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
>> 17. mailto:[58]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
>> 18. mailto:[59]DeTomaso at poca.com
>> 19. mailto:[60]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> 21. mailto:[62]DeTomaso at poca.com
>> 22. mailto:[63]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> 29. mailto:[67]andymay24 at gmail.com
>> 30. mailto:[68]detomaso at poca.com
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>> 40. mailto:[78]detomaso at poca.com
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