[DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
jderyke at aol.com
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Wed Feb 11 00:00:58 EST 2015
Absolutely correct, Jim & Chris. In TEN YEARS of Board elections, we have not accumulated 500 votes altogether. Voter turnout is one of the most dismal records the Club has, so anything the Board can do to increase the vote tally should help the Club operate in the 21st century, not the 19th. FWIW- J DeRyke
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From: Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: chrisvkimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; asajay <asajay at asajay.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
I agree with Chris-- the Board members are looking out for the best
interests of the club and its members.
With the way things are worded it is probably impossible to get
anything passed because if, say, 1/3 of the members don't vote the odds
of getting a majority of the total membership are pretty slim.
We had a similar issue with the partnership I work for and had to
change the bylaws because it was impossible to change with the times.
Jim Oddie
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
For what its worth:
Time goes by quickly, and it's hard to believe I've owned my Pantera
and been a member of POCA for almost 9 years, including a couple as
President of Panteras Northwest. In all that time I have never seen
anything from the other presidents, board members, or anyone else in a
POCA leadership position that hasn't been membership-focussed and done
in the best interest of POCA.
Sure, people disagree on certain things ("are you really going to put
chrome vent tubes on your engine cover? You must be crazy!"), but the
reason people volunteer for positions in this organization is to
benefit others who love Panteras and other DeTomaso creations, not for
anything self-serving.
I trust the board and its decisions, and why wouldn't I? The people
involved with POCA are some of the most generous, quality people I've
ever met.
If anyone is worried about board decisions, he or she should simply
volunteer to help! I assure you that after spending 5 minutes with
POCA's leadership he or she will see how hard they work for all our
benefit.
Sincerely,
Chris Kimball
Past President, PNW
Sent from my Windows Phone
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
The current by-laws are available for all to read on the POCA web site:
[3][2]http://poca.com/index.php/club/by-laws
Asa Jay
Quoting Paul Timko <[3]thedrol at pobox.com>:
> Surely this is a plot to take over POCA. I say everyone should
> start calling board members to complain about this vote. It clearly
> goes against the bylaws.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 2/10/2015 3:01 PM, Ed Mendez wrote:
>> I'm the PR person. :-) I've got his full backing.
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:56, Bill Moore <[1][4]bill at incendium.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Ed, it seems to me this communication should be coming from the
>> President, John.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bill Moore
>>
>> Incendium Supply
>>
>> Calgary
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Ed Mendez
>>
>> Date:2015-02-10 12:54 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>
>> To: San Diego Panteras ,[2][5]detomaso at poca.com
>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>>
>> Hi All,
>> The POCA board has gone to great lengths to change this one
section
>> of the bylaws; it's called article 10. The change will make it
>> easier for ALL POCA members to vote in the future and Allow
>> electronic voting! Yeah!
>> The way the by-laws read now, you have to have a majority of
votes
>> by POCA members in good standing, that means to change anything
now
>> we need 500+ votes, but with this new article 10 not only will
it
>> allow electronic voting, but future votes will be by POCA
members as
>> a majority of votes cast.
>> Yes a lot of legal mumbo jumbo but we are a California based
non
>> profit corp. So this change needs to be implemented and put
forth to
>> the membership to pass. That's you guys.
>> The important part, we need everyone to vote to get the now
required
>> 500+ votes for this to pass. The exact wording and voting
ballot
>> will be in the March Newsletter and we need to get the vote
out!!!
>> What will happen if this does not pass?
>> Things are not going to be able to be changed very easily; as
in
>> updating the
>> By-laws from its dinosaurus state, or at all to make things
better
>> for YOU, the members.
>> So I urge everyone to please vote.
>> Any questions please ask.
>> I hope I have explained this well enough, the biggest thing is
that
>> this is for all of you and a first step in making this a better
>> club.
>> Kind regards,
>> Ed
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
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Absolutely correct, Jim & Chris. In TEN YEARS of Board elections, we
have not accumulated 500 votes altogether. Voter turnout is one of the
most dismal records the Club has, so anything the Board can do to
increase the vote tally should help the Club operate in the 21st
century, not the 19th. FWIW- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: chrisvkimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; asajay <asajay at asajay.com>;
detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
I agree with Chris-- the Board members are looking out for the best
interests of the club and its members.
With the way things are worded it is probably impossible to get
anything passed because if, say, 1/3 of the members don't vote the odds
of getting a majority of the total membership are pretty slim.
We had a similar issue with the partnership I work for and had to
change the bylaws because it was impossible to change with the times.
Jim Oddie
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kimball <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com>
To: Asa Jay Laughton <[2]asajay at asajay.com>; detomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
For what its worth:
Time goes by quickly, and it's hard to believe I've owned my Pantera
and been a member of POCA for almost 9 years, including a couple as
President of Panteras Northwest. In all that time I have never seen
anything from the other presidents, board members, or anyone else in a
POCA leadership position that hasn't been membership-focussed and done
in the best interest of POCA.
Sure, people disagree on certain things ("are you really going to put
chrome vent tubes on your engine cover? You must be crazy!"), but the
reason people volunteer for positions in this organization is to
benefit others who love Panteras and other DeTomaso creations, not for
anything self-serving.
I trust the board and its decisions, and why wouldn't I? The people
involved with POCA are some of the most generous, quality people I've
ever met.
If anyone is worried about board decisions, he or she should simply
volunteer to help! I assure you that after spending 5 minutes with
POCA's leadership he or she will see how hard they work for all our
benefit.
Sincerely,
Chris Kimball
Past President, PNW
Sent from my Windows Phone
__________________________________________________________________
From: [1]Asa Jay Laughton
Sent: 2/10/2015 2:41 PM
To: [2][1][4]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
The current by-laws are available for all to read on the POCA web site:
[3][2][5]http://poca.com/index.php/club/by-laws
Asa Jay
Quoting Paul Timko <[3][6]thedrol at pobox.com>:
> Surely this is a plot to take over POCA. I say everyone should
> start calling board members to complain about this vote. It clearly
> goes against the bylaws.
>
> Paul
> #9270
>
> On 2/10/2015 3:01 PM, Ed Mendez wrote:
>> I'm the PR person. :-) I've got his full backing.
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:56, Bill Moore <[1][4][7]bill at incendium.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Ed, it seems to me this communication should be coming from the
>> President, John.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bill Moore
>>
>> Incendium Supply
>>
>> Calgary
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Ed Mendez
>>
>> Date:2015-02-10 12:54 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>
>> To: San Diego Panteras ,[2][5][8]detomaso at poca.com
>>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>>
>> Hi All,
>> The POCA board has gone to great lengths to change this one
section
>> of the bylaws; it's called article 10. The change will make it
>> easier for ALL POCA members to vote in the future and Allow
>> electronic voting! Yeah!
>> The way the by-laws read now, you have to have a majority of
votes
>> by POCA members in good standing, that means to change anything
now
>> we need 500+ votes, but with this new article 10 not only will
it
>> allow electronic voting, but future votes will be by POCA
members as
>> a majority of votes cast.
>> Yes a lot of legal mumbo jumbo but we are a California based
non
>> profit corp. So this change needs to be implemented and put
forth to
>> the membership to pass. That's you guys.
>> The important part, we need everyone to vote to get the now
required
>> 500+ votes for this to pass. The exact wording and voting
ballot
>> will be in the March Newsletter and we need to get the vote
out!!!
>> What will happen if this does not pass?
>> Things are not going to be able to be changed very easily; as
in
>> updating the
>> By-laws from its dinosaurus state, or at all to make things
better
>> for YOU, the members.
>> So I urge everyone to please vote.
>> Any questions please ask.
>> I hope I have explained this well enough, the biggest thing is
that
>> this is for all of you and a first step in making this a better
>> club.
>> Kind regards,
>> Ed
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>> _______________________________________________
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