[DeTomaso] [SDP] Re: Extremely Important Vote for POCA
L GRAY
tipo874a at msn.com
Tue Feb 10 17:35:05 EST 2015
The first I saw was your query to Ed.
I think maybe there is an issue with the SD Panteras address. I know we were having issues with some google email addresses at one time.
I sent a note to our forum list owner contact. Lets see what I get back.
I too got a not deliverable statement but apparently it got through, just not sure everyone received it.
Leslie A. Gray
> On Feb 10, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "L GRAY" <tipo874a at msn.com> wrote:
>
> This post came through just fine Marshall.
>
> Leslie A. Gray
>
>> On Feb 10, 2015, at 3:11 PM, "marshall smith" <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Ed...
>> I received the failure notice (below) when I responded to your email. Why can 'you' post to this forum but we can't?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>> been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are
>> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>> detomaso-owner at poca.com.
>>
>> Forwarded Message: Re: [SDP] Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>> Re: [SDP] Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Tue, 2/10/15, marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [SDP] Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>> To: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com>
>> Cc: "San Diego Panteras" <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2015, 1:47 PM
>>
>> Hey Ed,
>> It also seems to me this request should include
>> some input from several members of the POCA board if not all
>> the directors. Don't you agree?
>>
>> Changing bylaws should never be passed off as
>> legal mumbo jumbo. Perhaps our founders (POCA) felt that
>> changing the bylaws 'should' be made by a majority
>> of the club members to avoid the board from running amok.
>> There certainly has been a fairly large number of
>> 'incidents' caused by our POCA board in the last
>> year. The loss of 108 POCA members just last year would tend
>> to indicate there is a disconnect between our board and our
>> members. And now we're asked to vote to change our
>> bylaws with no board member's input other than your
>> own.
>>
>> My FIRST suggestion to
>> you is that you send out a copy of this "Article
>> 10" to our members to let them form their own opinion
>> BEFORE you ask them to change the wording. I have read this
>> section and I'm not sure it reads the way you have
>> portrayed it to read. Perhaps easing into this issue would
>> be the reasonable and prudent action to take at this time. I
>> would also ask you at this time what 'other' changes
>> to the bylaws is the board considering.
>>
>> It seems like I am always on the receiving end
>> of you trying to persuade me to do something Ed. Perhaps
>> input from more of your board members wouldn't make it
>> feel so questionable.
>>
>> Marshall Smith
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Tue, 2/10/15, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: [SDP] Re:
>> [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>> To: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>
>> Cc: "San Diego Panteras" <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>,
>> "detomaso at poca.com"
>> <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2015, 1:01 PM
>>
>> I'm
>> the
>> PR person. :-) I've got his full backing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>> On Feb
>> 10, 2015, at 12:56, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ed,
>> it seems to me
>> this communication should be
>> coming from the President,
>> John.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary
>>
>> -------- Original message
>> --------From: Ed
>> Mendez Date:2015-02-10
>> 12:54 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: San Diego
>> Panteras ,detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote
>> for
>> POCA
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The POCA board has gone to
>> great lengths to change this one
>> section of
>> the bylaws; it's called article 10. The
>>
>> change will make it easier for ALL POCA members to
>> vote in the future and Allow electronic
>> voting! Yeah!
>>
>> The way the
>> by-laws read now, you have to have a majority of
>> votes by POCA members in good standing, that
>> means to change
>> anything now we need 500+
>> votes, but with this new article
>> 10 not
>> only will it allow electronic voting, but future
>> votes will be by POCA members as a majority of
>> votes cast.
>>
>> Yes a lot of
>> legal mumbo jumbo but we are a California based
>> non profit corp. So this change needs to be
>> implemented and
>> put forth to the membership
>> to pass. That's you guys.
>>
>> The important part, we need everyone to vote
>> to get the now
>> required 500+ votes for this
>> to pass. The exact wording and
>> voting
>> ballot will be in the March Newsletter and we need to
>> get the vote out!!!
>>
>> What will happen if this does not pass?
>>
>> Things are not going to be
>> able to be changed very easily;
>> as in
>> updating the
>> By-laws from its dinosaurus
>> state, or at all to make things
>> better for
>> YOU, the members.
>>
>> So I
>> urge everyone to please vote.
>>
>> Any questions please ask.
>>
>> I hope I have explained this well enough, the
>> biggest thing
>> is that this is for all of
>> you and a first step in making
>> this a
>> better club.
>>
>> Kind
>> regards,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Sent
>> from my iPhone 5
>>
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