[DeTomaso] [SDP] Re: Extremely Important Vote for POCA

Tue Feb 10 17:13:22 EST 2015

This post came through just fine Marshall. 

Leslie A. Gray

> On Feb 10, 2015, at 3:11 PM, "marshall smith" <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Ed...
> I received the failure notice (below) when I responded to your email. Why can 'you' post to this forum but we can't?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Marshall
> 
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> Forwarded Message: Re: [SDP] Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
> Re: [SDP] Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 2/10/15, marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [SDP] Re: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
> To: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com>
> Cc: "San Diego Panteras" <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>, "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2015, 1:47 PM
> 
> Hey Ed, 
> It also seems to me this request should include
> some input from several members of the POCA board if not all
> the directors. Don't you agree?
> 
> Changing bylaws should never be passed off as
> legal mumbo jumbo. Perhaps our founders (POCA) felt that
> changing the bylaws 'should' be made by a majority
> of the club members to avoid the board from running amok.
> There certainly has been a fairly large number of
> 'incidents' caused by our POCA board in the last
> year. The loss of 108 POCA members just last year would tend
> to indicate there is a disconnect between our board and our
> members. And now we're asked to vote to change our
> bylaws with no board member's input other than your
> own.
> 
> My FIRST suggestion to
> you is that you send out a copy of this "Article
> 10" to our members to let them form their own opinion
> BEFORE you ask them to change the wording. I have read this
> section and I'm not sure it reads the way you have
> portrayed it to read. Perhaps easing into this issue would
> be the reasonable and prudent action to take at this time. I
> would also ask you at this time what 'other' changes
> to the bylaws is the board considering.
> 
> It seems like I am always on the receiving end
> of you trying to persuade me to do something Ed. Perhaps
> input from more of your board members wouldn't make it
> feel so questionable.
> 
> Marshall Smith
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 2/10/15, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> wrote:
> 
>   Subject: [SDP] Re:
> [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote for POCA
>   To: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>
>   Cc: "San Diego Panteras" <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>,
> "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2015, 1:01 PM
>   
>   I'm
>   the
> PR person. :-) I've got his full backing.
>   
>   
>   
>   Sent from my iPhone 5
>   On Feb
> 10, 2015, at 12:56, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
>   wrote:
>   
>   Ed,
> it seems to me
>   this communication should be
> coming from the President,
>    John.
>   
>   
>   Cheers,
>   Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary
>   
>   -------- Original message
> --------From: Ed
>   Mendez  Date:2015-02-10 
> 12:54 PM  (GMT-07:00)
>   To: San Diego
> Panteras ,detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Extremely Important Vote
> for
>   POCA 
>   Hi All, 
>   
>   The POCA board has gone to
> great lengths to change this one
>   section of
> the bylaws; it's called article 10. The
> 
> change will make it easier for ALL POCA  members to
>   vote in the future and Allow electronic
> voting! Yeah!
>   
>   The way the
> by-laws read now, you have to have a majority of
>   votes by POCA members in good standing, that
> means to change
>   anything now we need 500+
> votes, but with this new article
>   10 not
> only will it allow electronic voting, but future
>   votes will be by POCA members as a majority of
> votes cast.
>   
>   Yes a lot of
> legal mumbo jumbo but we are a California based
>   non profit corp. So this change needs to be
> implemented and
>   put forth to the membership
> to pass. That's you guys.
>   
>   The important part, we need everyone to vote
> to get the now
>   required 500+ votes for this
> to pass. The exact wording and
>   voting
> ballot will be in the March Newsletter and we need to
>   get the vote out!!!
>   
>   What will happen if this does not pass?
>   
>   Things are not going to be
> able to be changed very easily;
>   as in
> updating the 
>   By-laws from its dinosaurus
> state, or at all to make things
>   better for
> YOU, the members.
>   
>   So I
> urge everyone to please vote.
>   
>   Any questions please ask.
>   
>   I hope I have explained this well enough, the
> biggest thing
>   is that this is for all of
> you and a first step in making
>   this a
> better club.
>   
>   Kind
> regards,
>   
>   Ed
>   
>   
>   Sent
> from my iPhone 5
> 
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