[DeTomaso] Climate Bag
Andy May
andymay24 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 4 05:39:28 EST 2015
Hi Charles,
Most dehumidifiers have an auto sensor/controller so they just cycle on and
off as needed anyway. Another good reason to actually put them in the
environment being controlled rather than remotely.
In my personal case, my leather gets a good feeding and my GT5S came sans
wood anyway, though my permabag/silicone crystal solution would struggle to
dry the air out enough to cause any problems anyway.
Kind regards
Andy
On Feb 4, 2015 10:31 AM, "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> Question - at what point is too Little humidity a bad thing? When will the
> leather begin to dry and crack, and Wood, if your dash has it? Rubber
> hoses? I imagine that a certain amount of humidity keeps things flexible
> and prevents cracking
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Andy May <andymay24 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I too was wondering why you wouldn't just do that too.... Johnny does
>> like a spot of engineering though :-)
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2015 4:50 AM, <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 2/3/15 12 13 52, [2]andymay24 at gmail.com writes:
>> Yes, I certainly would not want to be doing it for a weekend - its
>> really
>> designed for seasonal use.
>> >>>Andy, he didn't say 'weekend'.A He said 'week and...'
>> Yes, it takes some time to put the car into and out of the cocoon,
>> but if you're taking it out and then driving it every day for a week
>> before parking it for several weeks or months, it's not
>> unreasonable.
>> FWIW, Johnny Woods balked at the high cost of a "Carcoon" in the UK
>> so he made his own.A His old workshop was something straight out of
>> a Dickens novel; it was in the basement of an 18th century
>> tannery.A It was perpetually dark and dank, and any bare metal left
>> exposed would literally rust in minutes.
>> He made a lightweight balsawood rectangle larger than the car, and
>> then a light framework that reaches a peak in the middle, and
>> covered it with heavy clear PVC plastic.A He put a rubber seal all
>> the way around the bottom framework.A He then rigged up a pulley
>> apparatus overhead, ran a rope from the top of the 'tent' through
>> the pulley and then down to an old Jaguar windshield wiper motor he
>> affixed to the wall.A Powered by a 12V inverter, with the flip of a
>> switch, the whole affair lifted up and was suspended over the car.
>> Now, what about the humidity?A Well, at first he just got a
>> standard dehumidifier, set it up outside the tent, with the inlet
>> hose inside with the car, and piping to the outside for the water
>> that was removed from the air.A But then he got REALLY clever. You
>> see, the dehumidifier has an air exhaust as well as an inlet.A So,
>> he rigged up a long length of hose and ran the exhaust air back
>> INSIDE the tent.A In this way, the air was circulated again and
>> again and again, getting moisture pulled out of it with each pass
>> through the machine.
>> He got a humidity gauge and measured the ultimate dryness achieved
>> by this method, then on his next trip to the USA, he measured the
>> air in Death Valley in the late springtime.A His bubble had lower
>> humidity!
>> So, with just a few dollars spent plus a bit of cleverness, you can
>> really take care of your car if it's in a humid environment.A Even
>> if you're not willing to manufacture your own tent, the trick of
>> circulating dehumidified air around and around and not allowing
>> ambient air into the cocoon is a very good idea!
>> Mike
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> 2. mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com
>>
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Hi Charles,
Most dehumidifiers have an auto sensor/controller so they just cycle on
and off as needed anyway. Another good reason to actually put them in
the environment being controlled rather than remotely.
In my personal case, my leather gets a good feeding and my GT5S came
sans wood anyway, though my permabag/silicone crystal solution would
struggle to dry the air out enough to cause any problems anyway.
Kind regards
Andy
On Feb 4, 2015 10:31 AM, "Charles McCall" <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:
Question - at what point is too Little humidity a bad thing? When will
the leather begin to dry and crack, and Wood, if your dash has
it?A Rubber hoses? I imagine that a certain amount of humidity keeps
things flexible and prevents cracking
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Andy May <[2]andymay24 at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A I too was wondering why you wouldn't just do that too....
Johnny does
A A like a spot of engineering though :-)
A A On Feb 4, 2015 4:50 AM, <[1][3]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
A A A In a message dated 2/3/15 12 13 52,
[2][4]andymay24 at gmail.com writes:
A A A Yes, I certainly would not want to be doing it for a weekend
- its
A A A really
A A A designed for seasonal use.
A A A >>>Andy, he didn't say 'weekend'.AA He said 'week and...'
A A A Yes, it takes some time to put the car into and out of the
cocoon,
A A A but if you're taking it out and then driving it every day
for a week
A A A before parking it for several weeks or months, it's not
A A A unreasonable.
A A A FWIW, Johnny Woods balked at the high cost of a "Carcoon" in
the UK
A A A so he made his own.AA His old workshop was something
straight out of
A A A a Dickens novel; it was in the basement of an 18th century
A A A tannery.AA It was perpetually dark and dank, and any bare
metal left
A A A exposed would literally rust in minutes.
A A A He made a lightweight balsawood rectangle larger than the
car, and
A A A then a light framework that reaches a peak in the middle,
and
A A A covered it with heavy clear PVC plastic.AA He put a rubber
seal all
A A A the way around the bottom framework.AA He then rigged up a
pulley
A A A apparatus overhead, ran a rope from the top of the 'tent'
through
A A A the pulley and then down to an old Jaguar windshield wiper
motor he
A A A affixed to the wall.AA Powered by a 12V inverter, with the
flip of a
A A A switch, the whole affair lifted up and was suspended over
the car.
A A A Now, what about the humidity?AA Well, at first he just got
a
A A A standard dehumidifier, set it up outside the tent, with the
inlet
A A A hose inside with the car, and piping to the outside for the
water
A A A that was removed from the air.AA But then he got REALLY
clever. You
A A A see, the dehumidifier has an air exhaust as well as an
inlet.AA So,
A A A he rigged up a long length of hose and ran the exhaust air
back
A A A INSIDE the tent.AA In this way, the air was circulated
again and
A A A again and again, getting moisture pulled out of it with each
pass
A A A through the machine.
A A A He got a humidity gauge and measured the ultimate dryness
achieved
A A A by this method, then on his next trip to the USA, he
measured the
A A A air in Death Valley in the late springtime.AA His bubble
had lower
A A A humidity!
A A A So, with just a few dollars spent plus a bit of cleverness,
you can
A A A really take care of your car if it's in a humid
environment.AA Even
A A A if you're not willing to manufacture your own tent, the
trick of
A A A circulating dehumidified air around and around and not
allowing
A A A ambient air into the cocoon is a very good idea!
A A A Mike
References
A A 1. mailto:[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com
A A 2. mailto:[6]andymay24 at gmail.com
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