[DeTomaso] Climate Bag

Charles McCall charlesmccall at gmail.com
Wed Feb 4 05:31:37 EST 2015


Question - at what point is too Little humidity a bad thing? When will the
leather begin to dry and crack, and Wood, if your dash has it? Rubber
hoses? I imagine that a certain amount of humidity keeps things flexible
and prevents cracking

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Andy May <andymay24 at gmail.com> wrote:

>    I too was wondering why you wouldn't just do that too.... Johnny does
>    like a spot of engineering though :-)
>
>    On Feb 4, 2015 4:50 AM, <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
>      In a message dated 2/3/15 12 13 52, [2]andymay24 at gmail.com writes:
>      Yes, I certainly would not want to be doing it for a weekend - its
>      really
>      designed for seasonal use.
>      >>>Andy, he didn't say 'weekend'.A  He said 'week and...'
>      Yes, it takes some time to put the car into and out of the cocoon,
>      but if you're taking it out and then driving it every day for a week
>      before parking it for several weeks or months, it's not
>      unreasonable.
>      FWIW, Johnny Woods balked at the high cost of a "Carcoon" in the UK
>      so he made his own.A  His old workshop was something straight out of
>      a Dickens novel; it was in the basement of an 18th century
>      tannery.A  It was perpetually dark and dank, and any bare metal left
>      exposed would literally rust in minutes.
>      He made a lightweight balsawood rectangle larger than the car, and
>      then a light framework that reaches a peak in the middle, and
>      covered it with heavy clear PVC plastic.A  He put a rubber seal all
>      the way around the bottom framework.A  He then rigged up a pulley
>      apparatus overhead, ran a rope from the top of the 'tent' through
>      the pulley and then down to an old Jaguar windshield wiper motor he
>      affixed to the wall.A  Powered by a 12V inverter, with the flip of a
>      switch, the whole affair lifted up and was suspended over the car.
>      Now, what about the humidity?A  Well, at first he just got a
>      standard dehumidifier, set it up outside the tent, with the inlet
>      hose inside with the car, and piping to the outside for the water
>      that was removed from the air.A  But then he got REALLY clever. You
>      see, the dehumidifier has an air exhaust as well as an inlet.A  So,
>      he rigged up a long length of hose and ran the exhaust air back
>      INSIDE the tent.A  In this way, the air was circulated again and
>      again and again, getting moisture pulled out of it with each pass
>      through the machine.
>      He got a humidity gauge and measured the ultimate dryness achieved
>      by this method, then on his next trip to the USA, he measured the
>      air in Death Valley in the late springtime.A  His bubble had lower
>      humidity!
>      So, with just a few dollars spent plus a bit of cleverness, you can
>      really take care of your car if it's in a humid environment.A  Even
>      if you're not willing to manufacture your own tent, the trick of
>      circulating dehumidified air around and around and not allowing
>      ambient air into the cocoon is a very good idea!
>      Mike
>
> References
>
>    1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>    2. mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com
>
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   Question - at what point is too Little humidity a bad thing? When will
   the leather begin to dry and crack, and Wood, if your dash has
   it?A Rubber hoses? I imagine that a certain amount of humidity keeps
   things flexible and prevents cracking

   On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Andy May <[1]andymay24 at gmail.com>
   wrote:

     A  A I too was wondering why you wouldn't just do that too....
     Johnny does
     A  A like a spot of engineering though :-)
     A  A On Feb 4, 2015 4:50 AM, <[1][2]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
     A  A  A In a message dated 2/3/15 12 13 52,
     [2][3]andymay24 at gmail.com writes:
     A  A  A Yes, I certainly would not want to be doing it for a weekend
     - its
     A  A  A really
     A  A  A designed for seasonal use.
     A  A  A >>>Andy, he didn't say 'weekend'.AA  He said 'week and...'
     A  A  A Yes, it takes some time to put the car into and out of the
     cocoon,
     A  A  A but if you're taking it out and then driving it every day
     for a week
     A  A  A before parking it for several weeks or months, it's not
     A  A  A unreasonable.
     A  A  A FWIW, Johnny Woods balked at the high cost of a "Carcoon" in
     the UK
     A  A  A so he made his own.AA  His old workshop was something
     straight out of
     A  A  A a Dickens novel; it was in the basement of an 18th century
     A  A  A tannery.AA  It was perpetually dark and dank, and any bare
     metal left
     A  A  A exposed would literally rust in minutes.
     A  A  A He made a lightweight balsawood rectangle larger than the
     car, and
     A  A  A then a light framework that reaches a peak in the middle,
     and
     A  A  A covered it with heavy clear PVC plastic.AA  He put a rubber
     seal all
     A  A  A the way around the bottom framework.AA  He then rigged up a
     pulley
     A  A  A apparatus overhead, ran a rope from the top of the 'tent'
     through
     A  A  A the pulley and then down to an old Jaguar windshield wiper
     motor he
     A  A  A affixed to the wall.AA  Powered by a 12V inverter, with the
     flip of a
     A  A  A switch, the whole affair lifted up and was suspended over
     the car.
     A  A  A Now, what about the humidity?AA  Well, at first he just got
     a
     A  A  A standard dehumidifier, set it up outside the tent, with the
     inlet
     A  A  A hose inside with the car, and piping to the outside for the
     water
     A  A  A that was removed from the air.AA  But then he got REALLY
     clever. You
     A  A  A see, the dehumidifier has an air exhaust as well as an
     inlet.AA  So,
     A  A  A he rigged up a long length of hose and ran the exhaust air
     back
     A  A  A INSIDE the tent.AA  In this way, the air was circulated
     again and
     A  A  A again and again, getting moisture pulled out of it with each
     pass
     A  A  A through the machine.
     A  A  A He got a humidity gauge and measured the ultimate dryness
     achieved
     A  A  A by this method, then on his next trip to the USA, he
     measured the
     A  A  A air in Death Valley in the late springtime.AA  His bubble
     had lower
     A  A  A humidity!
     A  A  A So, with just a few dollars spent plus a bit of cleverness,
     you can
     A  A  A really take care of your car if it's in a humid
     environment.AA  Even
     A  A  A if you're not willing to manufacture your own tent, the
     trick of
     A  A  A circulating dehumidified air around and around and not
     allowing
     A  A  A ambient air into the cocoon is a very good idea!
     A  A  A Mike
     References
     A  A 1. mailto:[4]MikeLDrew at aol.com
     A  A 2. mailto:[5]andymay24 at gmail.com
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References

   1. mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com
   2. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   3. mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com
   4. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
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