[DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C

Larry - Ohio Time Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Wed Dec 23 15:35:33 EST 2015


Guido you can see the caps do not look like they have a vent hose for them.
I do not think the battery was ever removed. My car is an early 72 that
still had the flat deck.
 
Larry (mice ate it) - Cleveland
 
 
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From: Guido deTomaso [mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C
 
 
 
Original Battery: Does it have six removeable caps joined together with a
vent hose?  I still have the vent hose going overboard, and the first cap,
kinda flopping around behind the battery.  Caps 5 thru 6 long gone.  Believe
that system of caps joined together and going overboard is shown in the
literature, somewhere.
 
While we're in the 'hood, years ago I was cautioned by an engineer who
worked at the Delco Anaheim battery plant to not fall for the CCA
"horsepower race", that to get that high CCA number required thinner plates
and more of them, which wasn't physically as rugged.  This same guy said
their Voyager battery was mechanically the toughest.  So I used to buy
Voyagers exclusively*, until my local guy stopped carrying Delco altogether.
 
Generally I try to use the biggest battery that fits in the space, in the
Pantera and others that's a 27F.
 
GD
 
* all except the Pantera which gets a Motorcraft ...

 
 
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From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C

With all this talk of amps and batteries I went out to check mine.

Original! Who else can say that?

Larry (removed cable to be safe) - Cleveland



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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C

Like Sean, I use a 650-amp battery intended for a 4-cylinder Toyota MR-2.
With a McLeod mini-starter, it fires a smoking-hot 10-1/2:1 compression 351C
1st or 2nd turn. It will NOT allow you to endlessly crank an engine that has
starting problems, though. Which may be a good thing! 
J DeRyke






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Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C

At least 800 I think but my current one is 650 and it works fine.A  For
  hot starts, the extra amps could be handy. Are you in Tamps?A  I'm
  vacationing in St. Pete this and next week.
  sean

  On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM, DeTomaso Pantera
  <[1]tampapantera at gmail.com> wrote:

    A  A Does anyone know whatAA  the minimal cold cranking amps needed
    to start
    A  A a 351C? Thanks. Cal. #2428.
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   Guido you can see the caps do not look like they have a vent hose for
   them. I do not think the battery was ever removed. My car is an early
   72 that still had the flat deck.


   Larry (mice ate it) - Cleveland


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   From: Guido deTomaso [mailto:guido_detomaso at prodigy.net]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:33 PM
   To: Larry - Ohio Time; jderyke at aol.com; spkorb at gmail.com;
   tampapantera at gmail.com
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C




   Original Battery: Does it have six removeable caps joined together with
   a vent hose?  I still have the vent hose going overboard, and the first
   cap, kinda flopping around behind the battery.  Caps 5 thru 6 long
   gone.  Believe that system of caps joined together and going overboard
   is shown in the literature, somewhere.


   While we're in the 'hood, years ago I was cautioned by an engineer who
   worked at the Delco Anaheim battery plant to not fall for the CCA
   "horsepower race", that to get that high CCA number required thinner
   plates and more of them, which wasn't physically as rugged.  This same
   guy said their Voyager battery was mechanically the toughest.  So I
   used to buy Voyagers exclusively*, until my local guy stopped carrying
   Delco altogether.


   Generally I try to use the biggest battery that fits in the space, in
   the Pantera and others that's a 27F.


   GD


   * all except the Pantera which gets a Motorcraft ...


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   From:
   Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   To: jderyke at aol.com; spkorb at gmail.com; tampapantera at gmail.com
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:31 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C

   With all this talk of amps and batteries I went out to check mine.
   Original! Who else can say that?
   Larry (removed cable to be safe) - Cleveland

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   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Jack
   DeRyke
   via DeTomaso
   Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:17 PM
   To: [2]spkorb at gmail.com; [3]tampapantera at gmail.com;
   [4]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C
   Like Sean, I use a 650-amp battery intended for a 4-cylinder Toyota
   MR-2.
   With a McLeod mini-starter, it fires a smoking-hot 10-1/2:1 compression
   351C
   1st or 2nd turn. It will NOT allow you to endlessly crank an engine
   that has
   starting problems, though. Which may be a good thing!
   J DeRyke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Sean Korb <[5]spkorb at gmail.com>
   To: DeTomaso Pantera <[6]tampapantera at gmail.com>; detomaso
   <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 1:08 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Minimum colt cranking amps 351C
   At least 800 I think but my current one is 650 and it works fine.A  For
     hot starts, the extra amps could be handy. Are you in Tamps?A  I'm
     vacationing in St. Pete this and next week.
     sean
     On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM, DeTomaso Pantera
     <[1][8]tampapantera at gmail.com> wrote:
       A  A Does anyone know whatAA  the minimal cold cranking amps needed
       to start
       A  A a 351C? Thanks. Cal. #2428.
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