[DeTomaso] ZF polishing

Bill Moore bill at incendium.com
Tue Dec 22 19:21:43 EST 2015


    
Yes . That's funny.



Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

-------- Original message --------
From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net> 
Date: 2015-12-22  4:31 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>, marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'Cullen McCann' <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>, 'Michael Shortt' <michaelsavga at gmail.com>, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> 
Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, 'DeTomaso Forum' <detomaso at poca.com>, ace595 at hotmail.com 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing 

Although I can't see my ZF...I know its there because it always leaves its signature on my garage floor.
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 12/22/15, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
 To: "B Hower" <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>, "marshall smith" <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>, "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, "'Cullen McCann'" <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>, "'Michael Shortt'" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
 Cc: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "'DeTomaso Forum'" <detomaso at poca.com>, "ace595 at hotmail.com" <ace595 at hotmail.com>
 Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 3:26 PM
 
 Yes!
 I put 250
 mi on my car last weekend and never needed to see the ZF
 even once.
 
  LSJ
 
 central
 wines-spirits  
 est 1934
 
 625
 e street nw
 washington,
 dc 20004
 centralwines.com
 
 facebook.com/CentralLiquors
 
 
 202-737-2800
 
 
  
 
     
   From: B Hower
 <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
  To: marshall smith
 <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>; Charles McCall
 <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Cullen McCann'
 <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; 'Michael Shortt'
 <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; LS
 <lashdeep at yahoo.com> 
 Cc: 'Mike Drew'
 <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; 'DeTomaso Forum'
 <detomaso at poca.com>; "ace595 at hotmail.com"
 <ace595 at hotmail.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, December
 22, 2015 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
 ZF polishing
    
  If you
 can see the ZF you are staying too close to home........put
 it on the road.
 Bud #3400
 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
 ! )
  
 
       
 From: marshall smith
 <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
 
 To: Charles
 McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Cullen
 McCann' <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; 'Michael
 Shortt' <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; LS
 <lashdeep at yahoo.com> 
 Cc: 'Mike Drew'
 <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; 'DeTomaso Forum'
 <detomaso at poca.com>; "ace595 at hotmail.com"
 <ace595 at hotmail.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, December
 22, 2015 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
 ZF polishing
    
 That's funny....that's how mine looks
 too!
 --------------------------------------------
 On Tue, 12/22/15, LS via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re:
 [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
  To: "Charles
 McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>,
 "'Cullen McCann'" <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>,
 "'Michael Shortt'" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
  Cc: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>,
 "'DeTomaso Forum'" <detomaso at poca.com>,
 "ace595 at hotmail.com"
 <ace595 at hotmail.com>
  Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 8:50 AM
  
     How are you guys
  even noticing what your ZF looks like?
     All, I can see is trunk carpeting...
  
     LSJ
 
    central
     wines-spirits   est
 1934
     625 e street nw
 
    washington, dc 20004
 
    [1]centralwines.com
 
    [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
 
    202-737-2800
   
 
    __________________________________________________________________
  
     From: Charles McCall
 <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
     To: 'Cullen McCann' <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>;
  'Michael Shortt'
 
    <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>;
  'DeTomaso Forum'
 
    <detomaso at poca.com>;
  ace595 at hotmail.com
     Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:08
 AM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF
 polishing
     As a poor man's
 solution, there exists a
  tube of
 silver-colored paste
     that was
 recommended on the Forum a few
  years ago. I
 bought a tube at
     the time and it
 cleaned up the ZF quite a
  bit. I can see
 what the tube
     looks like but
 don't remember what the
  name was.
     It doesn't look like a
 professionally
  polished ZF case, but it
 looks a
     lot better than stock. And if
 you drive
  your Pantera any distance, or
     in the rain, it's probably more
 practical
     -----Original
 Message-----
     From: DeTomaso
 [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
  On Behalf Of
     Cullen
 McCann
     Sent: martes, 22 de diciembre
 de 2015
  16:45
     To:
 Michael Shortt
     Cc: Mike Drew;
 DeTomaso Forum; [4]ace595 at hotmail.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
     Michael, you mentioned the aluminum
 jelly
  through amazon... my ZF is in
     good working order, but the PO painted
 it
  black and now the paint is
     flaking off. Id like the case to be
  natural aluminum, not polished or
     painted. I also don't want to
 disassemble
  the ZF, but it is out of the
     car
     right now.
 I've heard that 3M makes some
  stripping
 products that are
     gentle
     enough that the ZF rebuilders use
 them
  with good results, that are safe
     for
     the ZF
 case.
     I can of course test it on
 an
  inconspicuous area but would this
     aluminum
     jelly be
 the right product for my
  application?
     Cullen
     Yukon,
 OK
     On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:50 AM,
 Michael
  Shortt
 
    <[5]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     wrote:
     >   
 Cleaning the case is
  best done with a
 degreaser first, then either
     > 
   Aluminum Jelly ( amazon
  sells it ) be
 careful getting it on any
     >   
 anodized parts, it will
  discolor them. I
 fonishing touch is a
     >   
 specialized acidic Wheel
  cleaner.
     >    I have had great success
  with Eagle One for Mag Wheels that are
     porous
     >   
 and unpolished.
     >    After this
 three step
  treatment and a little brush
 action, your ZF
     will
 
    >    look almost white.
 
    >    Then spray it with
  WD40.
     >
     >   
 Michael Shortt
     >
 
    >    On Dec 22, 2015 12:20
  AM,
 "Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
 
    >    <[1][6]detomaso at poca.com>
  wrote:
     >
     >      A  A In a
 
 message dated 12/21/15 11:44:19 AM,
 
    [2][7]ace595 at hotmail.com
     >      writes:
 
    >      A  A  A
  ?ZF
 polishing
     >      A  A  A
  Can anyone give me the approx cost of having
 my ZF
     polished?
 
    >      A  A  A
  Is there
 someone in the northeast
     >     
 A  A  A
  That does this
 
    >      A  A  A
  Thanks
     >      A  A Tom,
 
    >      A  A It's
 
 horrendously expensive, because it's normally only
     done at
     >   
   the
     >      A  A same
  time that the gearbox is being rebuilt.A  As
 far as I
     >      know, those
     >      A  A who
 
 specialize in such things will not consider polishing a
     >      complete
 
    >      A  A
  gearbox, although
 I don't know the specific reason for
 
    this.
     >      A  A
  Instead, while you're getting your $5000
 gearbox overhaul,
     if
 
    >      you want
     >   
   A  A to
  spend an extra $1500 or so,
 they will arrange to have
     the
     >      bare cases
 
    >      A  A
  polished.A 
 It's something that is normally
 
 subcontracted
     out;
 
    >      the
     >     
 A  A pieces
  are either given to a
 polishing company, or the shop
     > 
     hires a
     >      A  A
  temporary worker who does it on-site.A 
 It's a very
     >     
 time-consuming
     >      A  A
 thing,
  taking many, many hours to do
 properly.
     >      A  A I
 don't
  know of anybody doing ZF work in
 the northeast; Guy
     >     
 Trigaux in
     >      A  A
  Simpsonville, SC is the nearest ZF expert to
 you, I think.A
     >      He's
 not
     >      A  A much
  for unnecessary bling, and he may not offer
 polishing
     >      service.
     >      A  A In
 
 short, if your gearbox was falling apart and needed to
     be
     >     
 rebuilt,
     >      A  A
  polishing is something you might consider
 while you're at
     it,
     >      but I
 
    >      A  A would
  never
 advocate taking apart a good gearbox just to
     shine
     >   
   it up.
     >      A  A It
  takes a LOT of maintenance to keep it looking
 decent; if
     you
 
    >      are
     >     
 A  A going
  to drive your car at all
 (especially in the northeast
     > 
     where the
     >      A  A
 climate
  is often far from ideal), I'd
 urge you to just
     leave it
     >      alone.
 
    >      A  A Lloyd
  Butfoy
 advocates cleaning the case, then spraying it
     with
     >     
 WD-40
     >      A  A which
  both makes it look good, and is easy to clean
 when it
     >      gets dirty.
     >      A  A Mike
 
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   Yes . That's funny.

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
   Date: 2015-12-22 4:31 PM (GMT-07:00)
   To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>, marshall smith
   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>, Charles McCall
   <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, 'Cullen McCann' <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>,
   'Michael Shortt' <michaelsavga at gmail.com>, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
   Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, 'DeTomaso Forum'
   <detomaso at poca.com>, ace595 at hotmail.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
   Although I can't see my ZF...I know its there because it always leaves
   its signature on my garage floor.
   --------------------------------------------
   On Tue, 12/22/15, LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
   To: "B Hower" <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>, "marshall smith"
   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>, "Charles McCall"
   <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, "'Cullen McCann'" <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>,
   "'Michael Shortt'" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
   Cc: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "'DeTomaso Forum'"
   <detomaso at poca.com>, "ace595 at hotmail.com" <ace595 at hotmail.com>
   Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 3:26 PM
   Yes!
   I put 250
   mi on my car last weekend and never needed to see the ZF
   even once.
    LSJ
   central
   wines-spirits
   est 1934
   625
   e street nw
   washington,
   dc 20004
   centralwines.com
   facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   202-737-2800


      From: B Hower
   <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
     To: marshall smith
   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>; Charles McCall
   <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Cullen McCann'
   <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; 'Michael Shortt'
   <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; LS
   <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
   Cc: 'Mike Drew'
   <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; 'DeTomaso Forum'
   <detomaso at poca.com>; "ace595 at hotmail.com"
   <ace595 at hotmail.com>
     Sent: Tuesday, December
   22, 2015 2:17 PM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
   ZF polishing

    If you
   can see the ZF you are staying too close to home........put
   it on the road.
   Bud #3400
   ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )


   From: marshall smith
   <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
   To: Charles
   McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; 'Cullen
   McCann' <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>; 'Michael
   Shortt' <michaelsavga at gmail.com>; LS
   <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
   Cc: 'Mike Drew'
   <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; 'DeTomaso Forum'
   <detomaso at poca.com>; "ace595 at hotmail.com"
   <ace595 at hotmail.com>
     Sent: Tuesday, December
   22, 2015 11:41 AM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]
   ZF polishing

   That's funny....that's how mine looks
   too!
   --------------------------------------------
   On Tue, 12/22/15, LS via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   wrote:
     Subject: Re:
   [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
     To: "Charles
   McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>,
   "'Cullen McCann'" <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>,
   "'Michael Shortt'" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     Cc: "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>,
   "'DeTomaso Forum'" <detomaso at poca.com>,
   "ace595 at hotmail.com"
   <ace595 at hotmail.com>
     Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 8:50 AM

        How are you guys
     even noticing what your ZF looks like?
        All, I can see is trunk carpeting...

        LSJ
      central
        wines-spirits   est
   1934
        625 e street nw
      washington, dc 20004
      [1]centralwines.com
      [2]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
      202-737-2800

      __________________________________________________________________

        From: Charles McCall
   <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
        To: 'Cullen McCann' <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>;
     'Michael Shortt'
      <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
        Cc: 'Mike Drew' <MikeLDrew at aol.com>;
     'DeTomaso Forum'
      <detomaso at poca.com>;
     ace595 at hotmail.com
        Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:08
   AM
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF
   polishing
        As a poor man's
   solution, there exists a
     tube of
   silver-colored paste
        that was
   recommended on the Forum a few
     years ago. I
   bought a tube at
        the time and it
   cleaned up the ZF quite a
     bit. I can see
   what the tube
        looks like but
   don't remember what the
     name was.
        It doesn't look like a
   professionally
     polished ZF case, but it
   looks a
        lot better than stock. And if
   you drive
     your Pantera any distance, or
        in the rain, it's probably more
   practical
        -----Original
   Message-----
        From: DeTomaso
   [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]
     On Behalf Of
        Cullen
   McCann
        Sent: martes, 22 de diciembre
   de 2015
     16:45
        To:
   Michael Shortt
        Cc: Mike Drew;
   DeTomaso Forum; [4]ace595 at hotmail.com
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polishing
        Michael, you mentioned the aluminum
   jelly
     through amazon... my ZF is in
        good working order, but the PO painted
   it
     black and now the paint is
        flaking off. Id like the case to be
     natural aluminum, not polished or
        painted. I also don't want to
   disassemble
     the ZF, but it is out of the
        car
        right now.
   I've heard that 3M makes some
     stripping
   products that are
        gentle
        enough that the ZF rebuilders use
   them
     with good results, that are safe
        for
        the ZF
   case.
        I can of course test it on
   an
     inconspicuous area but would this
        aluminum
        jelly be
   the right product for my
     application?
        Cullen
        Yukon,
   OK
        On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:50 AM,
   Michael
     Shortt
      <[5]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
        wrote:
        >
   Cleaning the case is
     best done with a
   degreaser first, then either
        >
     Aluminum Jelly ( amazon
     sells it ) be
   careful getting it on any
        >
   anodized parts, it will
     discolor them. I
   fonishing touch is a
        >
   specialized acidic Wheel
     cleaner.
        >    I have had great success
     with Eagle One for Mag Wheels that are
        porous
        >
   and unpolished.
        >    After this
   three step
     treatment and a little brush
   action, your ZF
        will
      >    look almost white.
      >    Then spray it with
     WD40.
        >
        >
   Michael Shortt
        >
      >    On Dec 22, 2015 12:20
     AM,
   "Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
      >    <[1][6]detomaso at poca.com>
     wrote:
        >
        >      A  A In a
   message dated 12/21/15 11:44:19 AM,
      [2][7]ace595 at hotmail.com
        >      writes:
      >      A  A  A
     ?ZF
   polishing
        >      A  A  A
     Can anyone give me the approx cost of having
   my ZF
        polished?
      >      A  A  A
     Is there
   someone in the northeast
        >
   A  A  A
     That does this
      >      A  A  A
     Thanks
        >      A  A Tom,
      >      A  A It's
   horrendously expensive, because it's normally only
        done at
        >
     the
        >      A  A same
     time that the gearbox is being rebuilt.A  As
   far as I
        >      know, those
        >      A  A who
   specialize in such things will not consider polishing a
        >      complete
      >      A  A
     gearbox, although
   I don't know the specific reason for
      this.
        >      A  A
     Instead, while you're getting your $5000
   gearbox overhaul,
        if
      >      you want
        >
     A  A to
     spend an extra $1500 or so,
   they will arrange to have
        the
        >      bare cases
      >      A  A
     polished.A
   It's something that is normally
   subcontracted
        out;
      >      the
        >
   A  A pieces
     are either given to a
   polishing company, or the shop
        >
       hires a
        >      A  A
     temporary worker who does it on-site.A
   It's a very
        >
   time-consuming
        >      A  A
   thing,
     taking many, many hours to do
   properly.
        >      A  A I
   don't
     know of anybody doing ZF work in
   the northeast; Guy
        >
   Trigaux in
        >      A  A
     Simpsonville, SC is the nearest ZF expert to
   you, I think.A
        >      He's
   not
        >      A  A much
     for unnecessary bling, and he may not offer
   polishing
        >      service.
        >      A  A In
   short, if your gearbox was falling apart and needed to
        be
        >
   rebuilt,
        >      A  A
     polishing is something you might consider
   while you're at
        it,
        >      but I
      >      A  A would
     never
   advocate taking apart a good gearbox just to
        shine
        >
     it up.
        >      A  A It
     takes a LOT of maintenance to keep it looking
   decent; if
        you
      >      are
        >
   A  A going
     to drive your car at all
   (especially in the northeast
        >
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        >      A  A
   climate
     is often far from ideal), I'd
   urge you to just
        leave it
        >      alone.
      >      A  A Lloyd
     Butfoy
   advocates cleaning the case, then spraying it
        with
        >
   WD-40
        >      A  A which
     both makes it look good, and is easy to clean
   when it
        >      gets dirty.
        >      A  A Mike
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