[DeTomaso] Mike's tale of De Tomaso book

Bobby Udell bobbykart at gmail.com
Sat Dec 19 10:06:26 EST 2015


This is a right on Statement!

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <
detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

>               I have two questions for Mike and a comment to All,
>
> 1. When will "YOU" write a BOOK?  You are long over due.  Obviously you
> have far
> more information than even a gifted bear; you've got the knowledge of
> historical
>   facts, technical facts, and all those thousands of pictures you've taken
> and
>   gathered through so many years, is it not yet obvious that YOU should be
> the
> author of your own book?  Heck... the letter you wrote here is nearly a
> book in
>                                     itself.
>
> 2. Just curious, did there happen to be a picture of my little ole car in
> those
>                         batches of familial photos? : )
>
>    3. Cheers and Happiness to All.  It's going to be a really GOOD YEAR!
>    (better be!)  I even agree with what Judy said in her last two posts.
>
>    Laurie
>
>    _______________________________________________________________________
>    ______________________
>
>                  [DeTomaso] On writing a book on De Tomaso....
>
>    MikeLDrew at aol.com [1]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>    Fri Dec 18 12:59:12 MST 2015
>      __________________________________________________________________
>
> All,
>
> Herewith, my thoughts on the trials and tribulations of producing a book on
> De Tomasoa|.
>
> More than a year ago, I got an e-mail out of the blue from Daniele Pozzi, a
> college professor in Italy.   He was committed to writing a book on De
> Tomaso, focusing on the man and his life rather than on the cars.   He had
> my
> address (among numerous others) as a potential source of help and
> information.
>   I replied right away, but heard nothing back.
>
> Six or eight months later, I was again contacted by Dr. Pozzi.   This time
> when I replied, I mentioned I had replied earlier and learned for some
> reason he had never received that.   He seemed quite excited when he
> learned of
> my position as Profiles editor, and my ability to support him with images
> etc.
>
> We went back and forth, as he discussed his vision for the book.   He
> wanted to tell the whole story of De Tomaso (so he said) and end it with
> coverag
> e
> of how De Tomaso has touched the lives of thousands of people around the
> world, and made it possible to forge lasting friendships through his cars.
> Thus he was especially keen to get photos and information from club
> meetings
> such as the POCA Fun Rally and the various European meetings.
>
> It took me a few weeks, but I scoured my archives and, not wanting to leave
> anything out, I gave him over 46,000 (!) individual images I'd collected
> over the years.   I did help by filtering them somewhat, and I put crucial
> historical images whose value I thought was important in key folders, and
> organized the others in various contexts (Fun Rally photos, Euro meeting
> photos,
>
> individual car photos, people photos etc.).   I burned them to USB sticks
> and sent them to him.   During this time, he had been peppering me with
> questions, asking me to fact-check certain technical details (he appears
> to be
> more of a historian than a traditional 'car guy'), etc.
>
> The Italian postal service leaves more than a bit to be desired, and it
> took almost two months (!) for the sticks to arrive.   But in the meantime,
> things had taken a bit of a turn.
>
> It was never clear to me if Dr. Pozzi had the idea to write a book, and
> then found a publisher to produce it, or if the publisher wanted to
> produce a
> book, and found a guy to write it.   But clearly their relationship was not
> all that it could have been.   Pozzi had a very clear image in his mind of
> what he wanted his book to be--he wanted it to be positive and uplifting,
> and
> a primary goal was to show the happiness that De Tomaso's works have
> generated among many people like us.
>
> The publisher had different ideas, and thought that was totally stupid.
> They wanted a straight historical biography without all the happy kumbyah
> stuff.   There was a meeting in the publisher's office, and one can imagine
> what an Italian business confrontation looks/sounds like.   Lots of
> yelling and
> arm-waving, and at the end of it, they took his manuscript and fired him
> from the project!
>
> My images arrived just after this all happened, so none of them were
> incorporated into the book.   (The only things he got from me that were
> included
>
> in the book were photos of Dave Jacobsen's beautiful Pre-L Pantera, which
> was
> a Profiles centerfold car--I had sent those to him earlier, and numerous
> photos of that car are scattered throughout the book including on the
> cover,
> and Dave is rightly given photo credit).
>
> Shortly afterwards, you may recall that Ed Mendez was contacted by a US
> publisher looking for some help in producing an English-language version
> of the
> book, and he shared that info with us.   Several of you expressed interest,
> but I contacted the publisher directly and asked him WTF since I was
> already deeply involved in the project?
>
> The publisher immediately phoned me in surprise, as he had no knowledge.
>
> It turns out that there was a big book fair in New York City, and the
> Italian company had showed off an Italian-language mockup of the book, and
> was
> seeking a US partner to produce an English-language version alongside of
> it.
> Both editions would be printed at the same time in Italy.   They assured
> everyone that this was a turn-key, ready-for-print book that only needed
> translation, so Dalton Books bought it.
>
> This outfit is known for producing really, really, REALLY high-quality car
> books--limited-edition leather bound box sets on the Rolls-Royce Silver
> Ghost that sell for $1750, that kind of thing.
>
> They hired an Italian-to-English translator to translate the text (one who
> supposedly had a good grasp of both languages but didn't really know
> automobiles specifically), and when that was done, they sent the text to
> me for
> fact-checking and editing.
>
> The translation left a lot to be desired; there was more than a little
> flat-tire English, where it would be obvious that the writer didn't speak
> the
> language fluently, and re-writing the factually correct text into proper,
> flowing English was a big job.   However, there were a LOT of factual and
> technical errors, which took quite some time to sort through and correct.
> That
> process alone probably took me 20-30 hours, as when I read something that I
> believed to be wrong, I had to be able to prove it to them (and myself) so
> had
> to do a lot of independent research.   The Italian publisher got quite
> annoyed, because I pointed out loads of technical and historical
> inaccuracies,
> which needed to be corrected in the English language version, and then they
> felt compelled to change those same errors in the Italian version.
>
> (One example--Pozzi got it backwards and thought the Vallelunga prototypes
> were made in fiberglass and the production cars were in aluminum, but we
> all
> know that is demonstrably untrue; there are only three known aluminum
> Fissore prototypes and all the Ghia cars, including the one De Tomaso owns
> today
> ,
> are fiberglass).
>
> There were some 'facts' that I believed were incorrect, but I couldn't
> prove it.   I would then ask Pozzi to seek confirmation from his sources,
> as I
> thought perhaps he had got a story turned around or something?   But by
> this
> time, he had lost all interest in cooperating with the project that had
> been
> taken away from him, and although he was very polite and friendly to me, he
> basically said he was too busy to devote any more time to it, and told the
> Italian publishers to take a flying leapa|.
>
> More disturbing to me, however, is that the book ended very prematurely in
> the story.   Most people know that De Tomaso suffered a terrible stroke in
> 1993.   It left him permanently paralyzed and unable to speak, but his
> brain
> was completely unaffected.   He then entered into an absolutely heroic
> period of intensive rehab, determined to conquer his condition.   He
> gradually
> improved somewhat, and was able to communicate in a very guttural manner,
> which only a handful of people were able to understand.
>
> Even at that, he successfully negotiated the sale of his 51% ownership of
> Maserati to Ferrari for many millions of Euros, then launched the De Tomaso
> Bigua, which then evolved into a joint venture with Qvale, and then blew up
> spectacularly.   Even as that was crashing to earth, he was involved with a
> grand scheme with backing of the Italian government to import sturdy,
> simple
> Russian 4x4 SUVs in KDC (knocked-down kit) form; the trucks would arrive as
> 1:1 scale kits, and would be assembled in a new purpose-built factory in
> the
> economically depressed south of Italy, and would be powered by a
> Belgian-made diesel engine sourced from a partnership with Chrysler.
>  This was
> a VERY
> complicated deal with a lot of moving parts.
>
> The profits from this enterprise would then be funneled to De Tomaso
> Automobili, who would use them to produce a new Vallelunga (Porsche
> Boxter-competitor, likely powered by a Saab turbo motor), and ultimately a
> new P
> antera.
>
> Unfortunately, that whole deal blew up too, after De Tomaso had accepted a
> huge pile of Euros from the Italian government.   When the plug got pulled
> and he was unable to pay it back, De Tomaso went into liquidation, then the
> brand was sold, and more Italian economic soap opera took place for a few
> years afterwards, with the family not involved.
>
> Anyway, even though both the Qvale and SUV deals fell apart, they were VERY
> ambitious projects, and were not merely vaporware--real cars were produced
> in both cases.   This was a very significant and tragic end to the story of
> De Tomaso, both the man and the corporation--and it was completely absent
> from the book.
>
> When I read it and found this out, I sent a strong WTFO note to both
> English and Italian publishers and the author?   Pozzi then confessed that
> when
> the project first started. Isabelle and Santiago promised full cooperation
> (without which the book would have been more or less impossible) under the
> condition that Pozzi agree to conceal the truth about anything that
> happened
> after 1993!
>
> What kind of historian or journalist would agree to such terms?   In any
> case, that's the deal Pozzi made, so all talk of those later failed
> ventures
> was eliminated.   I find it especially pathetic, because if you are really
> interested in the MAN, it is something the family should be proud of.   But
> instead, they are ashamed of the fact that the ventures failed and want to
> whitewash history and pretend they never happened.
>
> So the text in the book more or less indicates that he had a stroke in
> 1993, then sat around in a poopy diaper, drooling on himself until he died
> in
> 2003.   To me, THAT is pathetic, but that's how they wanted the story told.
> Charlie and I know for a fact that's not true, because when we met him in
> 2001, he was absolutely FEROCIOUS, animated, loud, arrogant, and full of
> piss
> and vinegar.   Although I happened to feel that he was a complete jerk (as
> did seemingly everybody else who knew him), he was far from the vegetable
> the
> book makes him out to be.
>
> So, with all that said, when the book arrived the other day, I was
> absolutely blown away at the high quality of the resultant effort.   The
> book is
>
> considerably larger than I was expecting (it's 13x11 inches) and the
> photography is simply stunning.   There are beautiful photo spreads of
> most of t
> he
> cars in the De Tomaso family collection (although since they don't have a
> GT5
> or GT5-S, those are absent, and apparently their Pantera Si broke down and
> they didn't want to bother towing it to be photographed so it's absent
> too).
> There are historical photos directly from De Tomaso's family archives that
> have never been seen before, and will never be seen anywhere else.
>
> And there's the story.   Given their well-established propensity for
> shading the truth, one has to wonder exactly how accurate it all is, but
> I'm
> willing to give them the benefit of the doubt about their telling of their
> early
>
> history at least.   It's certainly educational (I learned a lot!) and
> fascinating.
>
> So at the end of the day, even with all the caveats and asterisks, this is
> far and away the best De Tomaso book ever made, and if you have even a
> passing interest in the marque, you owe it to yourself to get a copy!
>
> Mike
>
> P.S.   It's worth noting that purely by coincidence, another Italian-market
> book on De Tomaso has just been printed; it was released on September 30th.
>   It's in Italian only and seems to be a much more modest effort (208
> pages, paperback?).   I've only seen pictures of the book, but the few
> pages I
> saw revealed images I'd never seen elsewhere, so that might be worth
> digging
> up as well if you're really a nut about this stuffa|.
>
> Here it is on the publisher's website:
>
> [2]
> http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automobili-de-tomaso.ht
> m
>
> Not available on Amazon USA, but it is available on Amazon Italia:
>
> [3]http://www.amazon.it/Automobili-De-Tomaso-Dante-Candini/dp/8875495947
>
> and from numerous other European retailers as wella|.
> -------------- next part --------------
>    All,
>    Herewith, my thoughts on the trials and tribulations of producing a
>    book on De Tomasoa|.
>    More than a year ago, I got an e-mail out of the blue from Daniele
>    Pozzi, a college professor in Italy.  He was committed to writing a
>    book on De Tomaso, focusing on the man and his life rather than on the
>    cars.  He had my address (among numerous others) as a potential source
>    of help and information.  I replied right away, but heard nothing back.
>    Six or eight months later, I was again contacted by Dr. Pozzi.  This
>    time when I replied, I mentioned I had replied earlier and learned for
>    some reason he had never received that.  He seemed quite excited when
>    he learned of my position as Profiles editor, and my ability to support
>    him with images etc.
>    We went back and forth, as he discussed his vision for the book.  He
>    wanted to tell the whole story of De Tomaso (so he said) and end it
>    with coverage of how De Tomaso has touched the lives of thousands of
>    people around the world, and made it possible to forge lasting
>    friendships through his cars.  Thus he was especially keen to get
>    photos and information from club meetings such as the POCA Fun Rally
>    and the various European meetings.
>    It took me a few weeks, but I scoured my archives and, not wanting to
>    leave anything out, I gave him over 46,000 (!) individual images I'd
>    collected over the years.  I did help by filtering them somewhat, and I
>    put crucial historical images whose value I thought was important in
>    key folders, and organized the others in various contexts (Fun Rally
>    photos, Euro meeting photos, individual car photos, people photos
>    etc.).  I burned them to USB sticks and sent them to him.  During this
>    time, he had been peppering me with questions, asking me to fact-check
>    certain technical details (he appears to be more of a historian than a
>    traditional 'car guy'), etc.
>    The Italian postal service leaves more than a bit to be desired, and it
>    took almost two months (!) for the sticks to arrive.  But in the
>    meantime, things had taken a bit of a turn.
>    It was never clear to me if Dr. Pozzi had the idea to write a book, and
>    then found a publisher to produce it, or if the publisher wanted to
>    produce a book, and found a guy to write it.  But clearly their
>    relationship was not all that it could have been.  Pozzi had a very
>    clear image in his mind of what he wanted his book to be--he wanted it
>    to be positive and uplifting, and a primary goal was to show the
>    happiness that De Tomaso's works have generated among many people like
>    us.
>    The publisher had different ideas, and thought that was totally
>    stupid.  They wanted a straight historical biography without all the
>    happy kumbyah stuff.  There was a meeting in the publisher's office,
>    and one can imagine what an Italian business confrontation looks/sounds
>    like.  Lots of yelling and arm-waving, and at the end of it, they took
>    his manuscript and fired him from the project!
>    My images arrived just after this all happened, so none of them were
>    incorporated into the book.  (The only things he got from me that were
>    included in the book were photos of Dave Jacobsen's beautiful Pre-L
>    Pantera, which was a Profiles centerfold car--I had sent those to him
>    earlier, and numerous photos of that car are scattered throughout the
>    book including on the cover, and Dave is rightly given photo credit).
>    Shortly afterwards, you may recall that Ed Mendez was contacted by a US
>    publisher looking for some help in producing an English-language
>    version of the book, and he shared that info with us.  Several of you
>    expressed interest, but I contacted the publisher directly and asked
>    him WTF since I was already deeply involved in the project?
>    The publisher immediately phoned me in surprise, as he had no
>    knowledge.
>    It turns out that there was a big book fair in New York City, and the
>    Italian company had showed off an Italian-language mockup of the book,
>    and was seeking a US partner to produce an English-language version
>    alongside of it.  Both editions would be printed at the same time in
>    Italy.  They assured everyone that this was a turn-key, ready-for-print
>    book that only needed translation, so Dalton Books bought it.
>    This outfit is known for producing really, really, REALLY high-quality
>    car books--limited-edition leather bound box sets on the Rolls-Royce
>    Silver Ghost that sell for $1750, that kind of thing.
>    They hired an Italian-to-English translator to translate the text (one
>    who supposedly had a good grasp of both languages but didn't really
>    know automobiles specifically), and when that was done, they sent the
>    text to me for fact-checking and editing.
>    The translation left a lot to be desired; there was more than a little
>    flat-tire English, where it would be obvious that the writer didn't
>    speak the language fluently, and re-writing the factually correct text
>    into proper, flowing English was a big job.  However, there were a LOT
>    of factual and technical errors, which took quite some time to sort
>    through and correct. That process alone probably took me 20-30 hours,
>    as when I read something that I believed to be wrong, I had to be able
>    to prove it to them (and myself) so had to do a lot of independent
>    research.  The Italian publisher got quite annoyed, because I pointed
>    out loads of technical and historical inaccuracies, which needed to be
>    corrected in the English language version, and then they felt compelled
>    to change those same errors in the Italian version.
>    (One example--Pozzi got it backwards and thought the Vallelunga
>    prototypes were made in fiberglass and the production cars were in
>    aluminum, but we all know that is demonstrably untrue; there are only
>    three known aluminum Fissore prototypes and all the Ghia cars,
>    including the one De Tomaso owns today, are fiberglass).
>    There were some 'facts' that I believed were incorrect, but I couldn't
>    prove it.  I would then ask Pozzi to seek confirmation from his
>    sources, as I thought perhaps he had got a story turned around or
>    something?  But by this time, he had lost all interest in cooperating
>    with the project that had been taken away from him, and although he was
>    very polite and friendly to me, he basically said he was too busy to
>    devote any more time to it, and told the Italian publishers to take a
>    flying leapa|.
>    More disturbing to me, however, is that the book ended very prematurely
>    in the story.  Most people know that De Tomaso suffered a terrible
>    stroke in 1993.  It left him permanently paralyzed and unable to speak,
>    but his brain was completely unaffected.  He then entered into an
>    absolutely heroic period of intensive rehab, determined to conquer his
>    condition.  He gradually improved somewhat, and was able to communicate
>    in a very guttural manner, which only a handful of people were able to
>    understand.
>    Even at that, he successfully negotiated the sale of his 51% ownership
>    of Maserati to Ferrari for many millions of Euros, then launched the De
>    Tomaso Bigua, which then evolved into a joint venture with Qvale, and
>    then blew up spectacularly.  Even as that was crashing to earth, he was
>    involved with a grand scheme with backing of the Italian government to
>    import sturdy, simple Russian 4x4 SUVs in KDC (knocked-down kit) form;
>    the trucks would arrive as 1:1 scale kits, and would be assembled in a
>    new purpose-built factory in the economically depressed south of Italy,
>    and would be powered by a Belgian-made diesel engine sourced from a
>    partnership with Chrysler.  This was a VERY complicated deal with a lot
>    of moving parts.
>    The profits from this enterprise would then be funneled to De Tomaso
>    Automobili, who would use them to produce a new Vallelunga (Porsche
>    Boxter-competitor, likely powered by a Saab turbo motor), and
>    ultimately a new Pantera.
>    Unfortunately, that whole deal blew up too, after De Tomaso had
>    accepted a huge pile of Euros from the Italian government.  When the
>    plug got pulled and he was unable to pay it back, De Tomaso went into
>    liquidation, then the brand was sold, and more Italian economic soap
>    opera took place for a few years afterwards, with the family not
>    involved.
>    Anyway, even though both the Qvale and SUV deals fell apart, they were
>    VERY ambitious projects, and were not merely vaporware--real cars were
>    produced in both cases.  This was a very significant and tragic end to
>    the story of De Tomaso, both the man and the corporation--and it was
>    completely absent from the book.
>    When I read it and found this out, I sent a strong WTFO note to both
>    English and Italian publishers and the author?  Pozzi then confessed
>    that when the project first started. Isabelle and Santiago promised
>    full cooperation (without which the book would have been more or less
>    impossible) under the condition that Pozzi agree to conceal the truth
>    about anything that happened after 1993!
>    What kind of historian or journalist would agree to such terms?  In any
>    case, that's the deal Pozzi made, so all talk of those later failed
>    ventures was eliminated.  I find it especially pathetic, because if you
>    are really interested in the MAN, it is something the family should be
>    proud of.  But instead, they are ashamed of the fact that the ventures
>    failed and want to whitewash history and pretend they never happened.
>    So the text in the book more or less indicates that he had a stroke in
>    1993, then sat around in a poopy diaper, drooling on himself until he
>    died in 2003.  To me, THAT is pathetic, but that's how they wanted the
>    story told.  Charlie and I know for a fact that's not true, because
>    when we met him in 2001, he was absolutely FEROCIOUS, animated, loud,
>    arrogant, and full of piss and vinegar.  Although I happened to feel
>    that he was a complete jerk (as did seemingly everybody else who knew
>    him), he was far from the vegetable the book makes him out to be.
>    So, with all that said, when the book arrived the other day, I was
>    absolutely blown away at the high quality of the resultant effort.  The
>    book is considerably larger than I was expecting (it's 13x11 inches)
>    and the photography is simply stunning.  There are beautiful photo
>    spreads of most of the cars in the De Tomaso family collection
>    (although since they don't have a GT5 or GT5-S, those are absent, and
>    apparently their Pantera Si broke down and they didn't want to bother
>    towing it to be photographed so it's absent too).  There are historical
>    photos directly from De Tomaso's family archives that have never been
>    seen before, and will never be seen anywhere else.
>    And there's the story.  Given their well-established propensity for
>    shading the truth, one has to wonder exactly how accurate it all is,
>    but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt about their
>    telling of their early history at least.  It's certainly educational (I
>    learned a lot!) and fascinating.
>    So at the end of the day, even with all the caveats and asterisks, this
>    is far and away the best De Tomaso book ever made, and if you have even
>    a passing interest in the marque, you owe it to yourself to get a copy!
>    Mike
>    P.S.  It's worth noting that purely by coincidence, another
>    Italian-market book on De Tomaso has just been printed; it was released
>    on September 30th.  It's in Italian only and seems to be a much more
>    modest effort (208 pages, paperback?).  I've only seen pictures of the
>    book, but the few pages I saw revealed images I'd never seen elsewhere,
>    so that might be worth digging up as well if you're really a nut about
>    this stuffa|.
>    Here it is on the publisher's website:
>    [4]
> http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automobili-de-toma
>    so.htm
>    Not available on Amazon USA, but it is available on Amazon Italia:
>    [5]
> http://www.amazon.it/Automobili-De-Tomaso-Dante-Candini/dp/8875495947
>    and from numerous other European retailers as wella|.
>
> References
>
>    1. mailto:detomaso%40poca.com
> ?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BDeTomaso%5D%20On%20writing%20a%20book%20on%20De%20Tomaso....&In-Reply-To=%3C3c4293.32525d66.43a5bf90%
> 40aol.com%3E
>    2.
> http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automobili-de-tomaso.ht
>    3.
> http://www.amazon.it/Automobili-De-Tomaso-Dante-Candini/dp/8875495947
>    4.
> http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automobili-de-toma
>    5.
> http://www.amazon.it/Automobili-De-Tomaso-Dante-Candini/dp/8875495947
>
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   This is a right on Statement!

   On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  I have two questions for Mike and a comment to
     All,
     1. When will "YOU" write a BOOK?A  You are long over due.A
     Obviously you have far
     more information than even a gifted bear; you've got the knowledge
     of historical
     A  facts, technical facts, and all those thousands of pictures
     you've taken and
     A  gathered through so many years, is it not yet obvious that YOU
     should be the
     author of your own book?A  Heck... the letter you wrote here is
     nearly a book in
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  itself.
     2. Just curious, did there happen to be a picture of my little ole
     car in those
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  batches of familial photos? : )
     A  A 3. Cheers and Happiness to All.A  It's going to be a really
     GOOD YEAR!
     A  A (better be!)A  I even agree with what Judy said in her last two
     posts.
     A  A Laurie
     A
     A __________________________________________________________________
     _____
     A  A ______________________
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A [DeTomaso] On writing a book on De
     Tomaso....
     A  A MikeLDrew at [2]aol.com [1]MikeLDrew at [3]aol.com
     A  A Fri Dec 18 12:59:12 MST 2015
     A  A
     A __________________________________________________________________
     All,
     Herewith, my thoughts on the trials and tribulations of producing a
     book on
     De Tomasoa|.
     More than a year ago, I got an e-mail out of the blue from Daniele
     Pozzi, a
     college professor in Italy.A  A He was committed to writing a book
     on De
     Tomaso, focusing on the man and his life rather than on the cars.A
     A He had my
     address (among numerous others) as a potential source of help and
     information.
     A  I replied right away, but heard nothing back.
     Six or eight months later, I was again contacted by Dr. Pozzi.A
     A This time
     when I replied, I mentioned I had replied earlier and learned for
     some
     reason he had never received that.A  A He seemed quite excited when
     he learned of
     my position as Profiles editor, and my ability to support him with
     images
     etc.
     We went back and forth, as he discussed his vision for the book.A
     A He
     wanted to tell the whole story of De Tomaso (so he said) and end it
     with coverag
     e
     of how De Tomaso has touched the lives of thousands of people around
     the
     world, and made it possible to forge lasting friendships through his
     cars.
     Thus he was especially keen to get photos and information from club
     meetings
     such as the POCA Fun Rally and the various European meetings.
     It took me a few weeks, but I scoured my archives and, not wanting
     to leave
     anything out, I gave him over 46,000 (!) individual images I'd
     collected
     over the years.A  A I did help by filtering them somewhat, and I put
     crucial
     historical images whose value I thought was important in key
     folders, and
     organized the others in various contexts (Fun Rally photos, Euro
     meeting photos,
     individual car photos, people photos etc.).A  A I burned them to USB
     sticks
     and sent them to him.A  A During this time, he had been peppering me
     with
     questions, asking me to fact-check certain technical details (he
     appears to be
     more of a historian than a traditional 'car guy'), etc.
     The Italian postal service leaves more than a bit to be desired, and
     it
     took almost two months (!) for the sticks to arrive.A  A But in the
     meantime,
     things had taken a bit of a turn.
     It was never clear to me if Dr. Pozzi had the idea to write a book,
     and
     then found a publisher to produce it, or if the publisher wanted to
     produce a
     book, and found a guy to write it.A  A But clearly their
     relationship was not
     all that it could have been.A  A Pozzi had a very clear image in his
     mind of
     what he wanted his book to be--he wanted it to be positive and
     uplifting, and
     a primary goal was to show the happiness that De Tomaso's works have
     generated among many people like us.
     The publisher had different ideas, and thought that was totally
     stupid.
     They wanted a straight historical biography without all the happy
     kumbyah
     stuff.A  A There was a meeting in the publisher's office, and one
     can imagine
     what an Italian business confrontation looks/sounds like.A  A Lots
     of yelling and
     arm-waving, and at the end of it, they took his manuscript and fired
     him
     from the project!
     My images arrived just after this all happened, so none of them were
     incorporated into the book.A  A (The only things he got from me that
     were included
     in the book were photos of Dave Jacobsen's beautiful Pre-L Pantera,
     which was
     a Profiles centerfold car--I had sent those to him earlier, and
     numerous
     photos of that car are scattered throughout the book including on
     the cover,
     and Dave is rightly given photo credit).
     Shortly afterwards, you may recall that Ed Mendez was contacted by a
     US
     publisher looking for some help in producing an English-language
     version of the
     book, and he shared that info with us.A  A Several of you expressed
     interest,
     but I contacted the publisher directly and asked him WTF since I was
     already deeply involved in the project?
     The publisher immediately phoned me in surprise, as he had no
     knowledge.
     It turns out that there was a big book fair in New York City, and
     the
     Italian company had showed off an Italian-language mockup of the
     book, and was
     seeking a US partner to produce an English-language version
     alongside of it.
     Both editions would be printed at the same time in Italy.A  A They
     assured
     everyone that this was a turn-key, ready-for-print book that only
     needed
     translation, so Dalton Books bought it.
     This outfit is known for producing really, really, REALLY
     high-quality car
     books--limited-edition leather bound box sets on the Rolls-Royce
     Silver
     Ghost that sell for $1750, that kind of thing.
     They hired an Italian-to-English translator to translate the text
     (one who
     supposedly had a good grasp of both languages but didn't really know
     automobiles specifically), and when that was done, they sent the
     text to me for
     fact-checking and editing.
     The translation left a lot to be desired; there was more than a
     little
     flat-tire English, where it would be obvious that the writer didn't
     speak the
     language fluently, and re-writing the factually correct text into
     proper,
     flowing English was a big job.A  A However, there were a LOT of
     factual and
     technical errors, which took quite some time to sort through and
     correct. That
     process alone probably took me 20-30 hours, as when I read something
     that I
     believed to be wrong, I had to be able to prove it to them (and
     myself) so had
     to do a lot of independent research.A  A The Italian publisher got
     quite
     annoyed, because I pointed out loads of technical and historical
     inaccuracies,
     which needed to be corrected in the English language version, and
     then they
     felt compelled to change those same errors in the Italian version.
     (One example--Pozzi got it backwards and thought the Vallelunga
     prototypes
     were made in fiberglass and the production cars were in aluminum,
     but we all
     know that is demonstrably untrue; there are only three known
     aluminum
     Fissore prototypes and all the Ghia cars, including the one De
     Tomaso owns today
     ,
     are fiberglass).
     There were some 'facts' that I believed were incorrect, but I
     couldn't
     prove it.A  A I would then ask Pozzi to seek confirmation from his
     sources, as I
     thought perhaps he had got a story turned around or something?A
     A But by this
     time, he had lost all interest in cooperating with the project that
     had been
     taken away from him, and although he was very polite and friendly to
     me, he
     basically said he was too busy to devote any more time to it, and
     told the
     Italian publishers to take a flying leapa|.
     More disturbing to me, however, is that the book ended very
     prematurely in
     the story.A  A Most people know that De Tomaso suffered a terrible
     stroke in
     1993.A  A It left him permanently paralyzed and unable to speak, but
     his brain
     was completely unaffected.A  A He then entered into an absolutely
     heroic
     period of intensive rehab, determined to conquer his condition.A
     A He gradually
     improved somewhat, and was able to communicate in a very guttural
     manner,
     which only a handful of people were able to understand.
     Even at that, he successfully negotiated the sale of his 51%
     ownership of
     Maserati to Ferrari for many millions of Euros, then launched the De
     Tomaso
     Bigua, which then evolved into a joint venture with Qvale, and then
     blew up
     spectacularly.A  A Even as that was crashing to earth, he was
     involved with a
     grand scheme with backing of the Italian government to import
     sturdy, simple
     Russian 4x4 SUVs in KDC (knocked-down kit) form; the trucks would
     arrive as
     1:1 scale kits, and would be assembled in a new purpose-built
     factory in the
     economically depressed south of Italy, and would be powered by a
     Belgian-made diesel engine sourced from a partnership with
     Chrysler.A  A This was
     a VERY
     complicated deal with a lot of moving parts.
     The profits from this enterprise would then be funneled to De Tomaso
     Automobili, who would use them to produce a new Vallelunga (Porsche
     Boxter-competitor, likely powered by a Saab turbo motor), and
     ultimately a new P
     antera.
     Unfortunately, that whole deal blew up too, after De Tomaso had
     accepted a
     huge pile of Euros from the Italian government.A  A When the plug
     got pulled
     and he was unable to pay it back, De Tomaso went into liquidation,
     then the
     brand was sold, and more Italian economic soap opera took place for
     a few
     years afterwards, with the family not involved.
     Anyway, even though both the Qvale and SUV deals fell apart, they
     were VERY
     ambitious projects, and were not merely vaporware--real cars were
     produced
     in both cases.A  A This was a very significant and tragic end to the
     story of
     De Tomaso, both the man and the corporation--and it was completely
     absent
     from the book.
     When I read it and found this out, I sent a strong WTFO note to both
     English and Italian publishers and the author?A  A Pozzi then
     confessed that when
     the project first started. Isabelle and Santiago promised full
     cooperation
     (without which the book would have been more or less impossible)
     under the
     condition that Pozzi agree to conceal the truth about anything that
     happened
     after 1993!
     What kind of historian or journalist would agree to such terms?A
     A In any
     case, that's the deal Pozzi made, so all talk of those later failed
     ventures
     was eliminated.A  A I find it especially pathetic, because if you
     are really
     interested in the MAN, it is something the family should be proud
     of.A  A But
     instead, they are ashamed of the fact that the ventures failed and
     want to
     whitewash history and pretend they never happened.
     So the text in the book more or less indicates that he had a stroke
     in
     1993, then sat around in a poopy diaper, drooling on himself until
     he died in
     2003.A  A To me, THAT is pathetic, but that's how they wanted the
     story told.
     Charlie and I know for a fact that's not true, because when we met
     him in
     2001, he was absolutely FEROCIOUS, animated, loud, arrogant, and
     full of piss
     and vinegar.A  A Although I happened to feel that he was a complete
     jerk (as
     did seemingly everybody else who knew him), he was far from the
     vegetable the
     book makes him out to be.
     So, with all that said, when the book arrived the other day, I was
     absolutely blown away at the high quality of the resultant effort.A
     A The book is
     considerably larger than I was expecting (it's 13x11 inches) and the
     photography is simply stunning.A  A There are beautiful photo
     spreads of most of t
     he
     cars in the De Tomaso family collection (although since they don't
     have a GT5
     or GT5-S, those are absent, and apparently their Pantera Si broke
     down and
     they didn't want to bother towing it to be photographed so it's
     absent too).
     There are historical photos directly from De Tomaso's family
     archives that
     have never been seen before, and will never be seen anywhere else.
     And there's the story.A  A Given their well-established propensity
     for
     shading the truth, one has to wonder exactly how accurate it all is,
     but I'm
     willing to give them the benefit of the doubt about their telling of
     their early
     history at least.A  A It's certainly educational (I learned a lot!)
     and
     fascinating.
     So at the end of the day, even with all the caveats and asterisks,
     this is
     far and away the best De Tomaso book ever made, and if you have even
     a
     passing interest in the marque, you owe it to yourself to get a
     copy!
     Mike
     P.S.A  A It's worth noting that purely by coincidence, another
     Italian-market
     book on De Tomaso has just been printed; it was released on
     September 30th.
     A  It's in Italian only and seems to be a much more modest effort
     (208
     pages, paperback?).A  A I've only seen pictures of the book, but the
     few pages I
     saw revealed images I'd never seen elsewhere, so that might be worth
     digging
     up as well if you're really a nut about this stuffa|.
     Here it is on the publisher's website:
     [2][4]http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automobil
     i-de-tomaso.ht
     m
     Not available on Amazon USA, but it is available on Amazon Italia:
     [3][5]http://www.amazon.it/Automobili-De-Tomaso-Dante-Candini/dp/887
     5495947
     and from numerous other European retailers as wella|.
     -------------- next part --------------
     A  A All,
     A  A Herewith, my thoughts on the trials and tribulations of
     producing a
     A  A book on De Tomasoa|.
     A  A More than a year ago, I got an e-mail out of the blue from
     Daniele
     A  A Pozzi, a college professor in Italy.A  He was committed to
     writing a
     A  A book on De Tomaso, focusing on the man and his life rather than
     on the
     A  A cars.A  He had my address (among numerous others) as a
     potential source
     A  A of help and information.A  I replied right away, but heard
     nothing back.
     A  A Six or eight months later, I was again contacted by Dr.
     Pozzi.A  This
     A  A time when I replied, I mentioned I had replied earlier and
     learned for
     A  A some reason he had never received that.A  He seemed quite
     excited when
     A  A he learned of my position as Profiles editor, and my ability to
     support
     A  A him with images etc.
     A  A We went back and forth, as he discussed his vision for the
     book.A  He
     A  A wanted to tell the whole story of De Tomaso (so he said) and
     end it
     A  A with coverage of how De Tomaso has touched the lives of
     thousands of
     A  A people around the world, and made it possible to forge lasting
     A  A friendships through his cars.A  Thus he was especially keen to
     get
     A  A photos and information from club meetings such as the POCA Fun
     Rally
     A  A and the various European meetings.
     A  A It took me a few weeks, but I scoured my archives and, not
     wanting to
     A  A leave anything out, I gave him over 46,000 (!) individual
     images I'd
     A  A collected over the years.A  I did help by filtering them
     somewhat, and I
     A  A put crucial historical images whose value I thought was
     important in
     A  A key folders, and organized the others in various contexts (Fun
     Rally
     A  A photos, Euro meeting photos, individual car photos, people
     photos
     A  A etc.).A  I burned them to USB sticks and sent them to him.A
     During this
     A  A time, he had been peppering me with questions, asking me to
     fact-check
     A  A certain technical details (he appears to be more of a historian
     than a
     A  A traditional 'car guy'), etc.
     A  A The Italian postal service leaves more than a bit to be
     desired, and it
     A  A took almost two months (!) for the sticks to arrive.A  But in
     the
     A  A meantime, things had taken a bit of a turn.
     A  A It was never clear to me if Dr. Pozzi had the idea to write a
     book, and
     A  A then found a publisher to produce it, or if the publisher
     wanted to
     A  A produce a book, and found a guy to write it.A  But clearly
     their
     A  A relationship was not all that it could have been.A  Pozzi had a
     very
     A  A clear image in his mind of what he wanted his book to be--he
     wanted it
     A  A to be positive and uplifting, and a primary goal was to show
     the
     A  A happiness that De Tomaso's works have generated among many
     people like
     A  A us.
     A  A The publisher had different ideas, and thought that was totally
     A  A stupid.A  They wanted a straight historical biography without
     all the
     A  A happy kumbyah stuff.A  There was a meeting in the publisher's
     office,
     A  A and one can imagine what an Italian business confrontation
     looks/sounds
     A  A like.A  Lots of yelling and arm-waving, and at the end of it,
     they took
     A  A his manuscript and fired him from the project!
     A  A My images arrived just after this all happened, so none of them
     were
     A  A incorporated into the book.A  (The only things he got from me
     that were
     A  A included in the book were photos of Dave Jacobsen's beautiful
     Pre-L
     A  A Pantera, which was a Profiles centerfold car--I had sent those
     to him
     A  A earlier, and numerous photos of that car are scattered
     throughout the
     A  A book including on the cover, and Dave is rightly given photo
     credit).
     A  A Shortly afterwards, you may recall that Ed Mendez was contacted
     by a US
     A  A publisher looking for some help in producing an
     English-language
     A  A version of the book, and he shared that info with us.A  Several
     of you
     A  A expressed interest, but I contacted the publisher directly and
     asked
     A  A him WTF since I was already deeply involved in the project?
     A  A The publisher immediately phoned me in surprise, as he had no
     A  A knowledge.
     A  A It turns out that there was a big book fair in New York City,
     and the
     A  A Italian company had showed off an Italian-language mockup of
     the book,
     A  A and was seeking a US partner to produce an English-language
     version
     A  A alongside of it.A  Both editions would be printed at the same
     time in
     A  A Italy.A  They assured everyone that this was a turn-key,
     ready-for-print
     A  A book that only needed translation, so Dalton Books bought it.
     A  A This outfit is known for producing really, really, REALLY
     high-quality
     A  A car books--limited-edition leather bound box sets on the
     Rolls-Royce
     A  A Silver Ghost that sell for $1750, that kind of thing.
     A  A They hired an Italian-to-English translator to translate the
     text (one
     A  A who supposedly had a good grasp of both languages but didn't
     really
     A  A know automobiles specifically), and when that was done, they
     sent the
     A  A text to me for fact-checking and editing.
     A  A The translation left a lot to be desired; there was more than a
     little
     A  A flat-tire English, where it would be obvious that the writer
     didn't
     A  A speak the language fluently, and re-writing the factually
     correct text
     A  A into proper, flowing English was a big job.A  However, there
     were a LOT
     A  A of factual and technical errors, which took quite some time to
     sort
     A  A through and correct. That process alone probably took me 20-30
     hours,
     A  A as when I read something that I believed to be wrong, I had to
     be able
     A  A to prove it to them (and myself) so had to do a lot of
     independent
     A  A research.A  The Italian publisher got quite annoyed, because I
     pointed
     A  A out loads of technical and historical inaccuracies, which
     needed to be
     A  A corrected in the English language version, and then they felt
     compelled
     A  A to change those same errors in the Italian version.
     A  A (One example--Pozzi got it backwards and thought the Vallelunga
     A  A prototypes were made in fiberglass and the production cars were
     in
     A  A aluminum, but we all know that is demonstrably untrue; there
     are only
     A  A three known aluminum Fissore prototypes and all the Ghia cars,
     A  A including the one De Tomaso owns today, are fiberglass).
     A  A There were some 'facts' that I believed were incorrect, but I
     couldn't
     A  A prove it.A  I would then ask Pozzi to seek confirmation from
     his
     A  A sources, as I thought perhaps he had got a story turned around
     or
     A  A something?A  But by this time, he had lost all interest in
     cooperating
     A  A with the project that had been taken away from him, and
     although he was
     A  A very polite and friendly to me, he basically said he was too
     busy to
     A  A devote any more time to it, and told the Italian publishers to
     take a
     A  A flying leapa|.
     A  A More disturbing to me, however, is that the book ended very
     prematurely
     A  A in the story.A  Most people know that De Tomaso suffered a
     terrible
     A  A stroke in 1993.A  It left him permanently paralyzed and unable
     to speak,
     A  A but his brain was completely unaffected.A  He then entered into
     an
     A  A absolutely heroic period of intensive rehab, determined to
     conquer his
     A  A condition.A  He gradually improved somewhat, and was able to
     communicate
     A  A in a very guttural manner, which only a handful of people were
     able to
     A  A understand.
     A  A Even at that, he successfully negotiated the sale of his 51%
     ownership
     A  A of Maserati to Ferrari for many millions of Euros, then
     launched the De
     A  A Tomaso Bigua, which then evolved into a joint venture with
     Qvale, and
     A  A then blew up spectacularly.A  Even as that was crashing to
     earth, he was
     A  A involved with a grand scheme with backing of the Italian
     government to
     A  A import sturdy, simple Russian 4x4 SUVs in KDC (knocked-down
     kit) form;
     A  A the trucks would arrive as 1:1 scale kits, and would be
     assembled in a
     A  A new purpose-built factory in the economically depressed south
     of Italy,
     A  A and would be powered by a Belgian-made diesel engine sourced
     from a
     A  A partnership with Chrysler.A  This was a VERY complicated deal
     with a lot
     A  A of moving parts.
     A  A The profits from this enterprise would then be funneled to De
     Tomaso
     A  A Automobili, who would use them to produce a new Vallelunga
     (Porsche
     A  A Boxter-competitor, likely powered by a Saab turbo motor), and
     A  A ultimately a new Pantera.
     A  A Unfortunately, that whole deal blew up too, after De Tomaso had
     A  A accepted a huge pile of Euros from the Italian government.A
     When the
     A  A plug got pulled and he was unable to pay it back, De Tomaso
     went into
     A  A liquidation, then the brand was sold, and more Italian economic
     soap
     A  A opera took place for a few years afterwards, with the family
     not
     A  A involved.
     A  A Anyway, even though both the Qvale and SUV deals fell apart,
     they were
     A  A VERY ambitious projects, and were not merely vaporware--real
     cars were
     A  A produced in both cases.A  This was a very significant and
     tragic end to
     A  A the story of De Tomaso, both the man and the corporation--and
     it was
     A  A completely absent from the book.
     A  A When I read it and found this out, I sent a strong WTFO note to
     both
     A  A English and Italian publishers and the author?A  Pozzi then
     confessed
     A  A that when the project first started. Isabelle and Santiago
     promised
     A  A full cooperation (without which the book would have been more
     or less
     A  A impossible) under the condition that Pozzi agree to conceal the
     truth
     A  A about anything that happened after 1993!
     A  A What kind of historian or journalist would agree to such
     terms?A  In any
     A  A case, that's the deal Pozzi made, so all talk of those later
     failed
     A  A ventures was eliminated.A  I find it especially pathetic,
     because if you
     A  A are really interested in the MAN, it is something the family
     should be
     A  A proud of.A  But instead, they are ashamed of the fact that the
     ventures
     A  A failed and want to whitewash history and pretend they never
     happened.
     A  A So the text in the book more or less indicates that he had a
     stroke in
     A  A 1993, then sat around in a poopy diaper, drooling on himself
     until he
     A  A died in 2003.A  To me, THAT is pathetic, but that's how they
     wanted the
     A  A story told.A  Charlie and I know for a fact that's not true,
     because
     A  A when we met him in 2001, he was absolutely FEROCIOUS, animated,
     loud,
     A  A arrogant, and full of piss and vinegar.A  Although I happened
     to feel
     A  A that he was a complete jerk (as did seemingly everybody else
     who knew
     A  A him), he was far from the vegetable the book makes him out to
     be.
     A  A So, with all that said, when the book arrived the other day, I
     was
     A  A absolutely blown away at the high quality of the resultant
     effort.A  The
     A  A book is considerably larger than I was expecting (it's 13x11
     inches)
     A  A and the photography is simply stunning.A  There are beautiful
     photo
     A  A spreads of most of the cars in the De Tomaso family collection
     A  A (although since they don't have a GT5 or GT5-S, those are
     absent, and
     A  A apparently their Pantera Si broke down and they didn't want to
     bother
     A  A towing it to be photographed so it's absent too).A  There are
     historical
     A  A photos directly from De Tomaso's family archives that have
     never been
     A  A seen before, and will never be seen anywhere else.
     A  A And there's the story.A  Given their well-established
     propensity for
     A  A shading the truth, one has to wonder exactly how accurate it
     all is,
     A  A but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt about
     their
     A  A telling of their early history at least.A  It's certainly
     educational (I
     A  A learned a lot!) and fascinating.
     A  A So at the end of the day, even with all the caveats and
     asterisks, this
     A  A is far and away the best De Tomaso book ever made, and if you
     have even
     A  A a passing interest in the marque, you owe it to yourself to get
     a copy!
     A  A Mike
     A  A P.S.A  It's worth noting that purely by coincidence, another
     A  A Italian-market book on De Tomaso has just been printed; it was
     released
     A  A on September 30th.A  It's in Italian only and seems to be a
     much more
     A  A modest effort (208 pages, paperback?).A  I've only seen
     pictures of the
     A  A book, but the few pages I saw revealed images I'd never seen
     elsewhere,
     A  A so that might be worth digging up as well if you're really a
     nut about
     A  A this stuffa|.
     A  A Here it is on the publisher's website:
     A
     A [4][6]http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automob
     ili-de-toma
     A  A so.htm
     A  A Not available on Amazon USA, but it is available on Amazon
     Italia:
     A
     A [5][7]http://www.amazon.it/Automobili-De-Tomaso-Dante-Candini/dp/8
     875495947
     A  A and from numerous other European retailers as wella|.
     References
     A  A 1.
     mailto:[8]detomaso%40poca.com?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BDeTomaso%5D%20On%20
     writing%20a%20book%20on%20De%20Tomaso....&In-Reply-To=%3C3c4293.3252
     5d66.43a5bf90%[9]40aol.com%3E
     A  A 2.
     [10]http://www.edizioniilfiorino.com/catalogo/sport/0488/automobili-
     de-tomaso.ht
     A  A 3.
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