[DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens

B Hower b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 1 07:15:15 EST 2015


IIRC.. You actually screw the screw into threads in the lens until screw threads go all the way through the lens, then the screw shoulder ( diameter smaller than threaded portion  ) is in lens hole.  Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
      From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
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  "so when they are screwed into the lens they become a captured screw
  like the factory"
  Not sure how many have locked-on to this part of the discussion, the
  holes in the lenses are / should be smaller than the thread diameter of
  the screws.
  GD
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  To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum
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    This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
    standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck them
    in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
    portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed into
  the
    lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
  Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
  M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
    Forest
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    From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
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    Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
    Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
    regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
    machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
    As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
    assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
    What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
    just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars. Thus
    repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
    aoriginalitya.
    I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta
  lens
    screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall use
    what I have on-handa repair approaches.
    And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
    phillips, filiister head machine screws.
    The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
    screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than the
    other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses some
    time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the P.O.
    fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
    The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to
  Carello,
    however.  They often remain attached to used lenses after the screws
    have been removed.
    Larry -  Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
    aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
    that version.
    Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw
  heads
    he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine screws.
    The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends to
    have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
    totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
    I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with awood
    screwsa.
    Larry
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   IIRC.. You actually screw the screw into threads in the lens until
   screw threads go all the way through the lens, then the screw shoulder
   ( diameter smaller than threaded portion  ) is in lens hole.

   Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
   ! )
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   From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
   To: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:54 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
     "so when they are screwed into the lens they become a captured screw
     like the factory"
     Not sure how many have locked-on to this part of the discussion, the
     holes in the lenses are / should be smaller than the thread diameter
   of
     the screws.
     GD
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: Forest Goodhart <[1]forestg at att.net>
     To: Larry Finch <[2]fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum
     <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
     Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:31 AM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
       This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
       standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck
   them
       in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
       portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed into
     the
       lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
     Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
     M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
       Forest

   __________________________________________________________________
       From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <[1][4]detomaso at poca.com>
       To: DeTomaso Forum <[2][5]detomaso at poca.com>
       Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
       Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
       regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
       machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
       As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
       assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
       What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
       just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars.
   Thus
       repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
       aoriginalitya.
       I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta
     lens
       screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall
   use
       what I have on-handa repair approaches.
       And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
       phillips, filiister head machine screws.
       The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
       screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than
   the
       other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses
   some
       time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the
   P.O.
       fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
       The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to
     Carello,
       however.  They often remain attached to used lenses after the
   screws
       have been removed.
       Larry -  Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
       aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
       that version.
       Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw
     heads
       he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine
   screws.
       The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends
   to
       have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
       totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
       I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with
   awood
       screwsa.
       Larry
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