[DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
B Hower
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Tue Dec 1 07:15:15 EST 2015
IIRC.. You actually screw the screw into threads in the lens until screw threads go all the way through the lens, then the screw shoulder ( diameter smaller than threaded portion ) is in lens hole. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
"so when they are screwed into the lens they become a captured screw
like the factory"
Not sure how many have locked-on to this part of the discussion, the
holes in the lenses are / should be smaller than the thread diameter of
the screws.
GD
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To: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck them
in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed into
the
lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
Forest
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars. Thus
repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
aoriginalitya.
I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta
lens
screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall use
what I have on-handa repair approaches.
And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
phillips, filiister head machine screws.
The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than the
other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses some
time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the P.O.
fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to
Carello,
however. They often remain attached to used lenses after the screws
have been removed.
Larry - Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
that version.
Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw
heads
he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine screws.
The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends to
have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with awood
screwsa.
Larry
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IIRC.. You actually screw the screw into threads in the lens until
screw threads go all the way through the lens, then the screw shoulder
( diameter smaller than threaded portion ) is in lens hole.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
! )
__________________________________________________________________
From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
To: DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
"so when they are screwed into the lens they become a captured screw
like the factory"
Not sure how many have locked-on to this part of the discussion, the
holes in the lenses are / should be smaller than the thread diameter
of
the screws.
GD
__________________________________________________________________
From: Forest Goodhart <[1]forestg at att.net>
To: Larry Finch <[2]fresnofinches at aol.com>; DeTomaso Forum
<[3]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
This is what I use. The head is slightly smaller diameter than a
standard fillister/cheese head and fits the lens recess. I chuck
them
in the drill press and use a file to remove the threads from the
portion that resides in the lens body so when they are screwed into
the
lens they become a captured screw like the factory.
Metric JIS Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw
M4 Size, 25mm Length, .7mm Pitch
Forest
__________________________________________________________________
From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <[1][4]detomaso at poca.com>
To: DeTomaso Forum <[2][5]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:31 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] '74 Taillight Lens
regarding Larry Westonas two sets of tail lights: one with threaded
machine screws, the other with awooda screws.
As in all things Pantera, we have come to accept variations in
assembly/equipment as indicative of factory-created variety.
What we tend to forget is these cars are FORTY+ years old and until
just recently they have not been seen as collector-worthy cars.
Thus
repairs made by all the previous owners have not been restricted to
aoriginalitya.
I have received used lights from Europe with numerous aincorrecta
lens
screws. Even in metric Europe, folks often tend towards the aIall
use
what I have on-handa repair approaches.
And here in metric-phobia USA, not many garage coffee cans have 4mm
phillips, filiister head machine screws.
The observation that the awood screwa lenses do not show signs of
screw-hole cracks just tells me that set's lenses are newer than
the
other set. I suspect that set was compiled from housings/lenses
some
time after manufacture, perhaps from different sources, and the
P.O.
fell prey to the ause what I havea option for the lens screws.
The white nylon washers with the awood screwsa are original to
Carello,
however. They often remain attached to used lenses after the
screws
have been removed.
Larry - Are all four lenses marked Carello? There are reproduction
aCarello stylea lenses on the current market - MrFiat and Hall sell
that version.
Also, since Jeff had to reduce the diameter of the machine screw
heads
he found I suspect what he used were in fact pan head machine
screws.
The two styles are closely similar, but the fillister style tends
to
have sharper head edges and sides; some fillister head sides are
totally flat and parallel to the threaded shafts.
I still do not believe any Carello lights originally came with
awood
screwsa.
Larry
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