[DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Fri Aug 21 16:28:19 EDT 2015
Thanks for your effort Asa Jay.
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> Volunteer time is at a premium these days. I spent over 40 hours of my
> VACATION time -last- year rebuilding what you now see of the POCA web site
> and it's like nobody noticed. Yes, a few things still don't work and it
> may not be as "flashy" as you like; but you now, after spending 40 hours of
> my vacation time working on it.... I'm a bit tired of working on it.
>
> <rant on>
> Two people have volunteered their services to take over the web site in
> the past four years. You know what they do? They call me, or Mark. You
> know how Mark and I built it and maintained it? OJT, we didn't have anyone
> to call; we had to learn how it was built, how to maintain it, etc. POCA
> doesn't need another "manager" of the site, or "technology," they need
> someone who can actually get their hands dirty; know how to make changes,
> not be afraid of screwing up and changing things back quickly.
> <rant off>
>
> A huge thank you to Terry Himes for helping to recover thousands of photos
> from the old gallery software last year. That one thing along should tell
> you that I can't do it alone, that Mark can't do it alone, that it's either
> a team effort or POCA will have to pay thousands of dollars (and we're not
> talking four digit thousands here), to build and maintain something new.
>
> Ed Mendez is trying to learn, but he's got a long way to go yet. You
> might give him a chance.
>
> Perhaps instead of trying to outsource the requirements to a third party,
> POCA might to do well to actually ask the membership if anyone can help by
> posting the job at hand, along with requirements. I personally didn't know
> this was a project until someone told me POCA was paying for a new web site
> months ago, at which point I asked what they were asking the new
> development team to do. And I subsequently pointed out the present web
> site will already do 92% of it, if someone had the time to work it.
>
> I no longer have the time, my volunteer hours have run out.
>
> Asa Jay
>
>
> Quoting Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>
> Another new POCA website which has been under development since early in
>> the year has failed once again. It's a shame we can't get some members
>> with
>> real web-site application development expertise to help manage this
>> project
>> for POCA.
>>
>> Jeff
>> 6559
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I didn't realize there are so many IT people on the list.
>>> --
>>> Will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/20/15 11:42 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I have been running VMWare for years on my Mac OS. Currently using
>>> > v6.0.4. I setup Windoze 7 so that I could run some software that
>>> > is not available for the Mac (Linux). Setup took about 15min
>>> > including install of the Windoze ISO. It does take up 1gb of memory.
>>> > But I
>>> > have 16gb so it don madder.
>>> > ALL our ground Flight Systems run Solaris 9 or 10 and Linux VM's.
>>> > It's a mix currently. InSight has gone 100% Linux but there are
>>> > issues.
>>> > Linux & LDAP do not work for Team accounts. I wish we had the good
>>> 'ol
>>> > NIS host back. Lots of security issues. 'nuf said.
>>> >
>>> > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>>> >
>>> > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>>> >
>>> > to contact us!"
>>> >
>>> > Terry W. Himes
>>> >
>>> > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>> >
>>> > InSight Sequence Team Lead
>>> >
>>> > Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>>> >
>>> > Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>> >
>>> > Cell: (818) 653-8213
>>> >
>>> > Fax: (818) 393-3147
>>> >
>>> > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>> >
>>> > From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Asa Jay
>>> > Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
>>> > Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:41 AM
>>> > To: POCA <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>>> >
>>> > VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive.
>>> Once
>>> > they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much
>>> easier.
>>> > I
>>> > now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several
>>> different
>>> > Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>>> > I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
>>> > stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>>> > Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
>>> > others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
>>> > servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a
>>> heckuva
>>> > long way.
>>> > Asa Jay
>>> > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>> > & Shelley Marie
>>> > Spokane, WA
>>> > ******************************
>>> > [5]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>>> > [6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>> > [7]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>> > On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more
>>> and
>>> > more
>>> >
>>> > of it each day.
>>> >
>>> > Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >
>>> > From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Will
>>> > Kooiman
>>> >
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>>> >
>>> > To: Ed Mendez
>>> >
>>> > Cc: [9]detomaso at poca.com
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>> > investment
>>> >
>>> > portfolio?
>>> >
>>> > I liked Solaris too. Proprietary hardware had no future, though.
>>> Sun
>>> > was
>>> >
>>> > doomed regardless of Oracle's involvement. The same was true for
>>> >
>>> > DEC/Alpha. Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
>>> >
>>> > Olsen. Water under the bridge. Doesn't matter.
>>> >
>>> > We're doing everything on Intel/Linux these days. It's a very stable
>>> >
>>> > platform. Plus, we're moving more towards VMWare. I'm not a big fan
>>> > of
>>> >
>>> > VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in the
>>> > big
>>> >
>>> > picture.
>>> >
>>> > On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate
>>> in
>>> >
>>> > 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
>>> > and
>>> >
>>> > a rock solid OS.
>>> >
>>> > At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
>>> >
>>> > company.
>>> >
>>> > and Then...
>>> >
>>> > Larry Ellison F'd it all up.
>>> >
>>> > ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>>> >
>>> > A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours.
>>> Sorry
>>> >
>>> > dude.
>>> >
>>> > Ed
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will
>>> > Kooiman<[11]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Don^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>>> >
>>> > I did stock market software for about 6 years. During that time, I
>>> was
>>> >
>>> > very active in the stock market. I had a run for about a year where
>>> I
>>> >
>>> > made about $850K by day trading. I was right at $1M, so I called it
>>> >
>>> > quits
>>> >
>>> > and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun. And then,
>>> >
>>> > Larry
>>> >
>>> > Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive. A year
>>> >
>>> > later, my $950K was worth about $90K. Numbers are foggy. Don^1t
>>> make
>>> > me
>>> >
>>> > look it up. I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back
>>> into
>>> >
>>> > the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the
>>> adage,
>>> >
>>> > easy come, easy go.
>>> >
>>> > A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
>>> >
>>> > mutual
>>> >
>>> > funds and bought some art. We can^1t drive it, but we enjoy it. It
>>> >
>>> > might
>>> >
>>> > not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>>> >
>>> > So, that^1s how I view collector cars. If you are buying them to
>>> store
>>> >
>>> > and
>>> >
>>> > watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at
>>> buying.
>>> >
>>> > If
>>> >
>>> > you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>>> >
>>> > polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in
>>> enjoyment.
>>> >
>>> > Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments. Why does
>>> > everyone
>>> >
>>> > try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>>> >
>>> > On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>>> >
>>> > <[12]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>>> > [13]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>>> >
>>> > I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >
>>> > From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>>> > Thomas
>>> >
>>> > Tornblom
>>> >
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>>> >
>>> > To: [15]detomaso at poca.com
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>> >
>>> > investment
>>> >
>>> > portfolio?
>>> >
>>> > I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
>>> program
>>> >
>>> > where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
>>> discount.
>>> >
>>> > In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>>> >
>>> > You can see the stock price at:
>>> > [16]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>>> >
>>> > I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy about
>>> >
>>> > me
>>> >
>>> > buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
>>> >
>>> > effect.
>>> >
>>> > After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have only
>>> >
>>> > been
>>> >
>>> > worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent
>>> hike
>>> >
>>> > it
>>> >
>>> > is
>>> >
>>> > now more like 1/10:th.
>>> >
>>> > She's happy now :)
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Thomas
>>> >
>>> > Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>>> >
>>> > I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>>> >
>>> > retirement
>>> >
>>> > savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
>>> had,
>>> >
>>> > cashed out in 2000.A It survived both that recession and the
>>> next
>>> >
>>> > and
>>> >
>>> > has tripled in value.A Not bad!
>>> >
>>> > But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own it
>>> > :)
>>> >
>>> > sean
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM,
>>> > thomas<[1][17]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in
>>> March
>>> >
>>> > 2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever for
>>> me.
>>> >
>>> > Thomas
>>> >
>>> > 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff Detrich<[2][18]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> >
>>> > A A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
>>> >
>>> > or
>>> >
>>> > A A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
>>> >
>>> > saved you
>>> >
>>> > A A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
>>> >
>>> > A A Jeff
>>> >
>>> > A A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>>> >
>>> > A A<[1][3][19]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > A A A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
>>> >
>>> > Here is
>>> >
>>> > A A A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
>>> >
>>> > Would you
>>> >
>>> > A A A agree?
>>> >
>>> > A A
>>> >
>>> > A
>>> >
>>> > [2][4][20]
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>>> > '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71
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>>> >
>>> > #1382
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Thanks for your effort Asa Jay.A
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
<[1]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
Volunteer time is at a premium these days.A I spent over 40 hours
of my VACATION time -last- year rebuilding what you now see of the
POCA web site and it's like nobody noticed.A Yes, a few things
still don't work and it may not be as "flashy" as you like; but you
now, after spending 40 hours of my vacation time working on it....
I'm a bit tired of working on it.
<rant on>
Two people have volunteered their services to take over the web site
in the past four years.A You know what they do?A They call me, or
Mark.A You know how Mark and I built it and maintained it? OJT, we
didn't have anyone to call; we had to learn how it was built, how to
maintain it, etc.A POCA doesn't need another "manager" of the site,
or "technology," they need someone who can actually get their hands
dirty; know how to make changes, not be afraid of screwing up and
changing things back quickly.
<rant off>
A huge thank you to Terry Himes for helping to recover thousands of
photos from the old gallery software last year. That one thing along
should tell you that I can't do it alone, that Mark can't do it
alone, that it's either a team effort or POCA will have to pay
thousands of dollars (and we're not talking four digit thousands
here), to build and maintain something new.
Ed Mendez is trying to learn, but he's got a long way to go yet.A
You might give him a chance.
Perhaps instead of trying to outsource the requirements to a third
party, POCA might to do well to actually ask the membership if
anyone can help by posting the job at hand, along with
requirements.A I personally didn't know this was a project until
someone told me POCA was paying for a new web site months ago, at
which point I asked what they were asking the new development team
to do.A And I subsequently pointed out the present web site will
already do 92% of it, if someone had the time to work it.
I no longer have the time, my volunteer hours have run out.
AsaA Jay
Quoting Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
Another new POCA website which has been under development since
early in
the year has failed once again. It's a shame we can't get some
members with
real web-site application development expertise to help manage this
project
for POCA.
Jeff
6559
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Will Kooiman
<[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
wrote:
I didn't realize there are so many IT people on the list.
--
Will
On 8/20/15 11:42 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
<[4]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
wrote:
>A A I have been running VMWare for years on my Mac OS.A Currently
using
>A A v6.0.4.A A I setup Windoze 7 so that I could run some
software that
>A A is not available for the Mac (Linux).A A Setup took about
15min
>A A including install of the Windoze ISO.A It does take up 1gb of
memory.
>A A But I
>A A have 16gb so it don madder.
>A A ALL our ground Flight Systems run SolarisA 9 or 10 and Linux
VM's.
>A A It's a mix currently.A InSight has gone 100% Linux but there
are
>A A issues.
>A A Linux & LDAP do not work for Team accounts.A I wish we had
the good 'ol
>A A NIS host back.A Lots of security issues.A 'nuf said.
>
>A A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>
>A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
tried
>
>A A A to contact us!"
>
>A A Terry W. Himes
>
>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
>A A InSight Sequence Team Lead
>
>A A Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>
>A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
>A A Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
>
>A A Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147
>
>A A [1][5]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
>A A From: DeTomaso <[2][6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
Asa Jay
>A A Laughton <[3][7]asajay at asajay.com>
>A A Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:41 AM
>A A To: POCA <[4][8]detomaso at poca.com>
>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>
>A A VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and
expensive. Once
>A A they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much
easier.
>A A I
>A A now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several
different
>A A Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>A A I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run
Windows
>A A stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>A A Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy
and
>A A others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs.
The
>A A servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come
a heckuva
>A A long way.
>A A Asa Jay
>A A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>A A &A Shelley Marie
>A A Spokane, WA
>A A ******************************
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>A A [7][11]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>A A On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>
>A A Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see
more and
>A A more
>
>A A of it each day.
>
>A A Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>
>A A -----Original Message-----
>
>A A From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:[12]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of Will
>A A Kooiman
>
>A A Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>
>A A To: Ed Mendez
>
>A A Cc: [9][13]detomaso at poca.com
>
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for
our
>A A investment
>
>A A portfolio?
>
>A A I liked Solaris too.A Proprietary hardware had no future,
though.A Sun
>A A was
>
>A A doomed regardless of Oracle's involvement.A The same was true
for
>
>A A DEC/Alpha.A Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed
because of Ken
>
>A A Olsen.A Water under the bridge.A Doesn't matter.
>
>A A We're doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.A It's a
very stable
>
>A A platform.A Plus, we're moving more towards VMWare.A I'm not
a big fan
>A A of
>
>A A VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense
in the
>A A big
>
>A A picture.
>
>A A On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10][14]edducati at mac.com>A
wrote:
>
>A A I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network
Certificate in
>
>A A 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based
equipment
>A A and
>
>A A a rock solid OS.
>
>A A At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every
Fortune 500
>
>A A company.
>
>A A and Then...
>
>A A Larry Ellison F'd it all up.
>
>A A ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>
>A A A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to
yours. Sorry
>
>A A dude.
>
>A A Ed
>
>A A On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will
>A A Kooiman<[11][15]will.kooiman at gmail.com>A wrote:
>
>A A Don^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>
>A A I did stock market software for about 6 years.A During that
time, I was
>
>A A very active in the stock market.A I had a run for about a
year where I
>
>A A made about $850K by day trading.A I was right at $1M, so I
called it
>
>A A quits
>
>A A and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.A And
then,
>
>A A Larry
>
>A A Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.A
A year
>
>A A later, my $950K was worth about $90K.A Numbers are foggy.A
Don^1t make
>A A me
>
>A A look it up.A I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got
back into
>
>A A the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home
the adage,
>
>A A easy come, easy go.
>
>A A A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold
some
>
>A A mutual
>
>A A funds and bought some art.A We can^1t drive it, but we enjoy
it.A It
>
>A A might
>
>A A not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>
>A A So, that^1s how I view collector cars.A If you are buying
them to store
>
>A A and
>
>A A watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at
buying.
>
>A A If
>
>A A you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching,
washing,
>
>A A polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in
enjoyment.
>
>A A Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.A Why
does
>A A everyone
>
>A A try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>
>A A On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd,
Jr."
>
>A A <[12][16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>A A [13][17]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>A wrote:
>
>A A I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>
>A A I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>
>A A -----Original Message-----
>
>A A From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
>A A Thomas
>
>A A Tornblom
>
>A A Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>
>A A To: [15][19]detomaso at poca.com
>
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for
our
>
>A A investment
>
>A A portfolio?
>
>A A I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock
purchase program
>
>A A where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
discount.
>
>A A In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>
>A A You can see the stock price at:
>A A [16][20]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>
>A A I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not
happy about
>
>A A me
>
>A A buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to
that
>
>A A effect.
>
>A A After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would
have only
>
>A A been
>
>A A worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the
recent hike
>
>A A it
>
>A A is
>
>A A now more like 1/10:th.
>
>A A She's happy now :)
>
>A A Cheers,
>
>A A Thomas
>
>A A Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>
>A A A A I really never thought of it that way... I had very
meager
>
>A A retirement
>
>A A A A savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with
everything I had,
>
>A A A A cashed out in 2000.AA It survived both that recession
and the next
>
>A A and
>
>A A A A has tripled in value.AA Not bad!
>
>A A A A But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and
still own it
>A A :)
>
>A A A A sean
>
>A A A A On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM,
>A A thomas<[1][17][21]thomas at hax.se>A wrote:
>
>A A A A A I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my
GT5 in March
>
>A A A A A 2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal
ever for me.
>
>A A A A A Thomas
>
>A A 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff
Detrich<[2][18][22]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>
>A A AA A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a
classic
>
>A A or
>
>A A AA A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would
have
>
>A A A A saved you
>
>A A AA A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that
count?
>
>A A AA A Jeff
>
>A A AA A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>
>A A AA A<[1][3][19][23]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>A wrote:
>
>A A AA AA A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this
morning.
>
>A A A A Here is
>
>A A AA AA A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an
investment.AA
>
>A A A A Would you
>
>A A AA AA A agree?
>
>A A AA A
>
>A A A A A
>
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>
>A A A A #1382
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