[DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Fri Aug 21 11:44:22 EDT 2015
Terry,
Your stuff is much more important than the poca website! And a whole lot
more interesting.
Jeff
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Yeah. We have lots of talent and great guys. Personally, I would love to
> jump in, but my problem is that we are 7 months
> from Launch with two years work to do. My average work week is 82 hrs.
> When we get on the surface I will be on Mars time
> and having to turn-around commands in a 8 hr Sol. So I have no bandwidth
> in the foreseeable future.
>
> Terry
>
>
>
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>
> * exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>
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>
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> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:59 AM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Asa Jay Laughton <
> asajay at asajay.com>, POCA <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>
> Another new POCA website which has been under development since early in
> the year has failed once again. It's a shame we can't get some members with
> real web-site application development expertise to help manage this project
> for POCA.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize there are so many IT people on the list.
>> --
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/15 11:42 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have been running VMWare for years on my Mac OS. Currently using
>> > v6.0.4. I setup Windoze 7 so that I could run some software that
>> > is not available for the Mac (Linux). Setup took about 15min
>> > including install of the Windoze ISO. It does take up 1gb of memory.
>> > But I
>> > have 16gb so it don madder.
>> > ALL our ground Flight Systems run Solaris 9 or 10 and Linux VM's.
>> > It's a mix currently. InSight has gone 100% Linux but there are
>> > issues.
>> > Linux & LDAP do not work for Team accounts. I wish we had the good
>> 'ol
>> > NIS host back. Lots of security issues. 'nuf said.
>> >
>> > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>> >
>> > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>> >
>> > to contact us!"
>> >
>> > Terry W. Himes
>> >
>> > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> >
>> > InSight Sequence Team Lead
>> >
>> > Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>> >
>> > Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> >
>> > Cell: (818) 653-8213
>> >
>> > Fax: (818) 393-3147
>> >
>> > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> >
>> > From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Asa Jay
>> > Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
>> > Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:41 AM
>> > To: POCA <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>> >
>> > VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive. Once
>> > they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much easier.
>> > I
>> > now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several
>> different
>> > Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>> > I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
>> > stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>> > Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
>> > others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
>> > servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a
>> heckuva
>> > long way.
>> > Asa Jay
>> > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> > & Shelley Marie
>> > Spokane, WA
>> > ******************************
>> > [5]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> > [6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> > [7]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>> > On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>> >
>> > Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more and
>> > more
>> >
>> > of it each day.
>> >
>> > Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> > From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> Will
>> > Kooiman
>> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>> >
>> > To: Ed Mendez
>> >
>> > Cc: [9]detomaso at poca.com
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>> > investment
>> >
>> > portfolio?
>> >
>> > I liked Solaris too. Proprietary hardware had no future, though. Sun
>> > was
>> >
>> > doomed regardless of Oracle's involvement. The same was true for
>> >
>> > DEC/Alpha. Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
>> >
>> > Olsen. Water under the bridge. Doesn't matter.
>> >
>> > We're doing everything on Intel/Linux these days. It's a very stable
>> >
>> > platform. Plus, we're moving more towards VMWare. I'm not a big fan
>> > of
>> >
>> > VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in the
>> > big
>> >
>> > picture.
>> >
>> > On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate in
>> >
>> > 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
>> > and
>> >
>> > a rock solid OS.
>> >
>> > At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
>> >
>> > company.
>> >
>> > and Then...
>> >
>> > Larry Ellison F'd it all up.
>> >
>> > ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>> >
>> > A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours. Sorry
>> >
>> > dude.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will
>> > Kooiman<[11]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Don^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>> >
>> > I did stock market software for about 6 years. During that time, I
>> was
>> >
>> > very active in the stock market. I had a run for about a year where I
>> >
>> > made about $850K by day trading. I was right at $1M, so I called it
>> >
>> > quits
>> >
>> > and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun. And then,
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> > Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive. A year
>> >
>> > later, my $950K was worth about $90K. Numbers are foggy. Don^1t make
>> > me
>> >
>> > look it up. I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back
>> into
>> >
>> > the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the adage,
>> >
>> > easy come, easy go.
>> >
>> > A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
>> >
>> > mutual
>> >
>> > funds and bought some art. We can^1t drive it, but we enjoy it. It
>> >
>> > might
>> >
>> > not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>> >
>> > So, that^1s how I view collector cars. If you are buying them to
>> store
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at buying.
>> >
>> > If
>> >
>> > you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>> >
>> > polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in enjoyment.
>> >
>> > Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments. Why does
>> > everyone
>> >
>> > try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>> >
>> > On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>> >
>> > <[12]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>> > [13]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>> >
>> > I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> > From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > Tornblom
>> >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>> >
>> > To: [15]detomaso at poca.com
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>> >
>> > investment
>> >
>> > portfolio?
>> >
>> > I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
>> program
>> >
>> > where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
>> discount.
>> >
>> > In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>> >
>> > You can see the stock price at:
>> > [16]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>> >
>> > I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy about
>> >
>> > me
>> >
>> > buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
>> >
>> > effect.
>> >
>> > After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have only
>> >
>> > been
>> >
>> > worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent hike
>> >
>> > it
>> >
>> > is
>> >
>> > now more like 1/10:th.
>> >
>> > She's happy now :)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>> >
>> > I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>> >
>> > retirement
>> >
>> > savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
>> had,
>> >
>> > cashed out in 2000.A It survived both that recession and the
>> next
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > has tripled in value.A Not bad!
>> >
>> > But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own it
>> > :)
>> >
>> > sean
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM,
>> > thomas<[1][17]thomas at hax.se> wrote:
>> >
>> > I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in March
>> >
>> > 2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever for
>> me.
>> >
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff Detrich<[2][18]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > A A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > A A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
>> >
>> > saved you
>> >
>> > A A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
>> >
>> > A A Jeff
>> >
>> > A A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>> >
>> > A A<[1][3][19]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > A A A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
>> >
>> > Here is
>> >
>> > A A A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
>> >
>> > Would you
>> >
>> > A A A agree?
>> >
>> > A A
>> >
>> > A
>> >
>> > [2][4][20]
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>> > [36]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-
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>> > 5. [37]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> > 6. [38]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>> > 7. [39]mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
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>> > 8.
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>> > [40]
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>> > 5. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
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Terry,
Your stuff is much more important than the poca website! And a whole
lot more interesting.A
Jeff
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
<[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Yeah.A We have lots of talent and great guys.A Personally, I would
love to jump in, but my problem is that we are 7 monthsA
from Launch with two yearsA work to do.A My average work week is 82
hrs.A When we get on the surface I will be on Mars time
and having to turn-around commands in a 8 hr Sol.A So I have no
bandwidth in the foreseeable future.A
Terry
"SometimesA IA think the surest signs that intelligent lifeA
A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
A to contact us!"
Terry W. HimesA
JPLA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:A A A A (818) 653-8213
Fax:A A A A (818) 393-3147
[2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
d--od-,
From: Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:59 AM
To: Will Kooiman <[4]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Asa Jay Laughton
<[6]asajay at asajay.com>, POCA <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
Another new POCA website which has been under development since early
in the year has failed once again. It's a shame we can't get some
members with real web-site application development expertise to help
manage this project for POCA.A
Jeff
6559
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Will Kooiman
<[8]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't realize there are so many IT people on the list.
--
Will
On 8/20/15 11:42 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
<[9]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
wrote:
>A A I have been running VMWare for years on my Mac OS.A Currently
using
>A A v6.0.4.A A I setup Windoze 7 so that I could run some software
that
>A A is not available for the Mac (Linux).A A Setup took about 15min
>A A including install of the Windoze ISO.A It does take up 1gb of
memory.
>A A But I
>A A have 16gb so it don madder.
>A A ALL our ground Flight Systems run SolarisA 9 or 10 and Linux
VM's.
>A A It's a mix currently.A InSight has gone 100% Linux but there are
>A A issues.
>A A Linux & LDAP do not work for Team accounts.A I wish we had the
good 'ol
>A A NIS host back.A Lots of security issues.A 'nuf said.
>
>A A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>
>A A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>
>A A A to contact us!"
>
>A A Terry W. Himes
>
>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
>A A InSight Sequence Team Lead
>
>A A Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>
>A A Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
>A A Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213
>
>A A Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147
>
>A A [1][10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
>A A From: DeTomaso <[2][11]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
Asa Jay
>A A Laughton <[3][12]asajay at asajay.com>
>A A Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:41 AM
>A A To: POCA <[4][13]detomaso at poca.com>
>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>
>A A VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive.
Once
>A A they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much
easier.
>A A I
>A A now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several
different
>A A Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>A A I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run
Windows
>A A stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>A A Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
>A A others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs.
The
>A A servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a
heckuva
>A A long way.
>A A Asa Jay
>A A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>A A &A Shelley Marie
>A A Spokane, WA
>A A ******************************
>A A [5][14]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>A A [6][15]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>A A [7][16]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>A A On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>
>A A Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see
more and
>A A more
>
>A A of it each day.
>
>A A Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>
>A A -----Original Message-----
>
>A A From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of Will
>A A Kooiman
>
>A A Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>
>A A To: Ed Mendez
>
>A A Cc: [9][18]detomaso at poca.com
>
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>A A investment
>
>A A portfolio?
>
>A A I liked Solaris too.A Proprietary hardware had no future,
though.A Sun
>A A was
>
>A A doomed regardless of Oracle's involvement.A The same was true
for
>
>A A DEC/Alpha.A Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because
of Ken
>
>A A Olsen.A Water under the bridge.A Doesn't matter.
>
>A A We're doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.A It's a very
stable
>
>A A platform.A Plus, we're moving more towards VMWare.A I'm not a
big fan
>A A of
>
>A A VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in
the
>A A big
>
>A A picture.
>
>A A On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10][19]edducati at mac.com>A
wrote:
>
>A A I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network
Certificate in
>
>A A 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based
equipment
>A A and
>
>A A a rock solid OS.
>
>A A At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune
500
>
>A A company.
>
>A A and Then...
>
>A A Larry Ellison F'd it all up.
>
>A A ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>
>A A A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours.
Sorry
>
>A A dude.
>
>A A Ed
>
>A A On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will
>A A Kooiman<[11][20]will.kooiman at gmail.com>A wrote:
>
>A A Don^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>
>A A I did stock market software for about 6 years.A During that
time, I was
>
>A A very active in the stock market.A I had a run for about a year
where I
>
>A A made about $850K by day trading.A I was right at $1M, so I
called it
>
>A A quits
>
>A A and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.A And
then,
>
>A A Larry
>
>A A Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.A A
year
>
>A A later, my $950K was worth about $90K.A Numbers are foggy.A
Don^1t make
>A A me
>
>A A look it up.A I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got
back into
>
>A A the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the
adage,
>
>A A easy come, easy go.
>
>A A A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold
some
>
>A A mutual
>
>A A funds and bought some art.A We can^1t drive it, but we enjoy
it.A It
>
>A A might
>
>A A not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>
>A A So, that^1s how I view collector cars.A If you are buying them
to store
>
>A A and
>
>A A watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at
buying.
>
>A A If
>
>A A you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>
>A A polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in
enjoyment.
>
>A A Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.A Why does
>A A everyone
>
>A A try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>
>A A On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>
>A A <[12][21]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>A A [13][22]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>A wrote:
>
>A A I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>
>A A I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>
>A A -----Original Message-----
>
>A A From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
>A A Thomas
>
>A A Tornblom
>
>A A Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>
>A A To: [15][24]detomaso at poca.com
>
>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>
>A A investment
>
>A A portfolio?
>
>A A I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
program
>
>A A where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
discount.
>
>A A In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>
>A A You can see the stock price at:
>A A [16][25]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>
>A A I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy
about
>
>A A me
>
>A A buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to
that
>
>A A effect.
>
>A A After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have
only
>
>A A been
>
>A A worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent
hike
>
>A A it
>
>A A is
>
>A A now more like 1/10:th.
>
>A A She's happy now :)
>
>A A Cheers,
>
>A A Thomas
>
>A A Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>
>A A A A I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>
>A A retirement
>
>A A A A savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with
everything I had,
>
>A A A A cashed out in 2000.AA It survived both that recession and
the next
>
>A A and
>
>A A A A has tripled in value.AA Not bad!
>
>A A A A But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still
own it
>A A :)
>
>A A A A sean
>
>A A A A On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM,
>A A thomas<[1][17][26]thomas at hax.se>A wrote:
>
>A A A A A I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5
in March
>
>A A A A A 2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal
ever for me.
>
>A A A A A Thomas
>
>A A 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff
Detrich<[2][18][27]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>
>A A AA A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a
classic
>
>A A or
>
>A A AA A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would
have
>
>A A A A saved you
>
>A A AA A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that
count?
>
>A A AA A Jeff
>
>A A AA A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>
>A A AA A<[1][3][19][28]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>A wrote:
>
>A A AA AA A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this
morning.
>
>A A A A Here is
>
>A A AA AA A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an
investment.AA
>
>A A A A Would you
>
>A A AA AA A agree?
>
>A A AA A
>
>A A A A A
>
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>A A A A #1382
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