[DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Fri Aug 21 11:44:22 EDT 2015


Terry,

Your stuff is much more important than the poca website! And a whole lot
more interesting.

Jeff

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Yeah.  We have lots of talent and great guys.  Personally, I would love to
> jump in, but my problem is that we are 7 months
> from Launch with two years work to do.  My average work week is 82 hrs.
> When we get on the surface I will be on Mars time
> and having to turn-around commands in a 8 hr Sol.  So I have no bandwidth
> in the foreseeable future.
>
> Terry
>
>
>
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>
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> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:59 AM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Asa Jay Laughton <
> asajay at asajay.com>, POCA <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>
> Another new POCA website which has been under development since early in
> the year has failed once again. It's a shame we can't get some members with
> real web-site application development expertise to help manage this project
> for POCA.
>
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize there are so many IT people on the list.
>> --
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/15 11:42 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >   I have been running VMWare for years on my Mac OS.  Currently using
>> >   v6.0.4.   I setup Windoze 7 so that I could run some software that
>> >   is not available for the Mac (Linux).   Setup took about 15min
>> >   including install of the Windoze ISO.  It does take up 1gb of memory.
>> >   But I
>> >   have 16gb so it don madder.
>> >   ALL our ground Flight Systems run Solaris  9 or 10 and Linux VM's.
>> >   It's a mix currently.  InSight has gone 100% Linux but there are
>> >   issues.
>> >   Linux & LDAP do not work for Team accounts.  I wish we had the good
>> 'ol
>> >   NIS host back.  Lots of security issues.  'nuf said.
>> >
>> >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>> >
>> >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>> >
>> >     to contact us!"
>> >
>> >   Terry W. Himes
>> >
>> >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>> >
>> >   InSight Sequence Team Lead
>> >
>> >   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
>> >
>> >   Phone: (818) 393-6261
>> >
>> >   Cell:     (818) 653-8213
>> >
>> >   Fax:     (818) 393-3147
>> >
>> >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>> >
>> >   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Asa Jay
>> >   Laughton <[3]asajay at asajay.com>
>> >   Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:41 AM
>> >   To: POCA <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
>> >
>> >   VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive. Once
>> >   they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much easier.
>> >   I
>> >   now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several
>> different
>> >   Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>> >   I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
>> >   stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>> >   Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
>> >   others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
>> >   servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a
>> heckuva
>> >   long way.
>> >   Asa Jay
>> >   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> >   &  Shelley Marie
>> >   Spokane, WA
>> >   ******************************
>> >   [5]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> >   [6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> >   [7]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>> >   On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>> >
>> >   Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more and
>> >   more
>> >
>> >   of it each day.
>> >
>> >   Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>> >
>> >   -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> >   From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> Will
>> >   Kooiman
>> >
>> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>> >
>> >   To: Ed Mendez
>> >
>> >   Cc: [9]detomaso at poca.com
>> >
>> >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>> >   investment
>> >
>> >   portfolio?
>> >
>> >   I liked Solaris too.  Proprietary hardware had no future, though.  Sun
>> >   was
>> >
>> >   doomed regardless of Oracle's involvement.  The same was true for
>> >
>> >   DEC/Alpha.  Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
>> >
>> >   Olsen.  Water under the bridge.  Doesn't matter.
>> >
>> >   We're doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.  It's a very stable
>> >
>> >   platform.  Plus, we're moving more towards VMWare.  I'm not a big fan
>> >   of
>> >
>> >   VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in the
>> >   big
>> >
>> >   picture.
>> >
>> >   On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10]edducati at mac.com>  wrote:
>> >
>> >   I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate in
>> >
>> >   2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
>> >   and
>> >
>> >   a rock solid OS.
>> >
>> >   At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
>> >
>> >   company.
>> >
>> >   and Then...
>> >
>> >   Larry Ellison F'd it all up.
>> >
>> >   ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>> >
>> >   A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours. Sorry
>> >
>> >   dude.
>> >
>> >   Ed
>> >
>> >   On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will
>> >   Kooiman<[11]will.kooiman at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >
>> >   Don^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>> >
>> >   I did stock market software for about 6 years.  During that time, I
>> was
>> >
>> >   very active in the stock market.  I had a run for about a year where I
>> >
>> >   made about $850K by day trading.  I was right at $1M, so I called it
>> >
>> >   quits
>> >
>> >   and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.  And then,
>> >
>> >   Larry
>> >
>> >   Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.  A year
>> >
>> >   later, my $950K was worth about $90K.  Numbers are foggy.  Don^1t make
>> >   me
>> >
>> >   look it up.  I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back
>> into
>> >
>> >   the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the adage,
>> >
>> >   easy come, easy go.
>> >
>> >   A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
>> >
>> >   mutual
>> >
>> >   funds and bought some art.  We can^1t drive it, but we enjoy it.  It
>> >
>> >   might
>> >
>> >   not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>> >
>> >   So, that^1s how I view collector cars.  If you are buying them to
>> store
>> >
>> >   and
>> >
>> >   watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at buying.
>> >
>> >   If
>> >
>> >   you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>> >
>> >   polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in enjoyment.
>> >
>> >   Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.  Why does
>> >   everyone
>> >
>> >   try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>> >
>> >   On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>> >
>> >   <[12]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>> >   [13]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>  wrote:
>> >
>> >   I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>> >
>> >   I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>> >
>> >   -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> >   From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>> >   Thomas
>> >
>> >   Tornblom
>> >
>> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>> >
>> >   To: [15]detomaso at poca.com
>> >
>> >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>> >
>> >   investment
>> >
>> >   portfolio?
>> >
>> >   I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
>> program
>> >
>> >   where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
>> discount.
>> >
>> >   In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>> >
>> >   You can see the stock price at:
>> >   [16]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>> >
>> >   I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy about
>> >
>> >   me
>> >
>> >   buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
>> >
>> >   effect.
>> >
>> >   After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have only
>> >
>> >   been
>> >
>> >   worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent hike
>> >
>> >   it
>> >
>> >   is
>> >
>> >   now more like 1/10:th.
>> >
>> >   She's happy now :)
>> >
>> >   Cheers,
>> >
>> >   Thomas
>> >
>> >   Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>> >
>> >        I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>> >
>> >   retirement
>> >
>> >        savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
>> had,
>> >
>> >        cashed out in 2000.A  It survived both that recession and the
>> next
>> >
>> >   and
>> >
>> >        has tripled in value.A  Not bad!
>> >
>> >        But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own it
>> >   :)
>> >
>> >        sean
>> >
>> >        On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM,
>> >   thomas<[1][17]thomas at hax.se>  wrote:
>> >
>> >          I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in March
>> >
>> >          2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever for
>> me.
>> >
>> >          Thomas
>> >
>> >   19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff Detrich<[2][18]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >   A  A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
>> >
>> >   or
>> >
>> >   A  A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
>> >
>> >        saved you
>> >
>> >   A  A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
>> >
>> >   A  A Jeff
>> >
>> >   A  A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>> >
>> >   A  A<[1][3][19]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>  wrote:
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>> >   A  A  A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
>> >
>> >        Here is
>> >
>> >   A  A  A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
>> >
>> >        Would you
>> >
>> >   A  A  A agree?
>> >
>> >   A  A
>> >
>> >        A
>> >
>> >   [2][4][20]
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>> >   [36]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-
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>> >   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>> >   5. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
>> >   6. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
>> >   7. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>> >   8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>> >   9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>> >  10. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>> >  11. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>> >  12. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>> >  13. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
>> >  14. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>> >  15. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>> >  16. http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>> >  17. mailto:thomas at hax.se
>> >  18. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>> >  19. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>> >  20. http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-
>> >  21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>> >  22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> >  23. mailto:[7] <[7]>jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>> >  24.
>> http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-goo
>> >  25. mailto:[9] <[9]>DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> >  27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> >  30. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> >  31. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
>> >  32. http://www.spkorb.org/
>> >  33. mailto:thomas at hax.se
>> >  34. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>> >  35. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>> >  36. http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-
>> >  37. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>> >  38. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> >  39. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>> >  40.
>> >http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-good-in
>> >  41. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>> >  42. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> >  43. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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>> >  47. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
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   Terry,
   Your stuff is much more important than the poca website! And a whole
   lot more interesting.A
   Jeff

   On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
   <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

   Hi Jeff,
   Yeah.A  We have lots of talent and great guys.A  Personally, I would
   love to jump in, but my problem is that we are 7 monthsA
   from Launch with two yearsA work to do.A  My average work week is 82
   hrs.A  When we get on the surface I will be on Mars time
   and having to turn-around commands in a 8 hr Sol.A  So I have no
   bandwidth in the foreseeable future.A
   Terry

   "SometimesA IA think the surest signs that intelligent lifeA

   A  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

   A  to contact us!"

   Terry W. HimesA

   JPLA Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:A A A A  (818) 653-8213

   Fax:A A A A  (818) 393-3147

   [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   d--od-,
   From: Jeff Detrich <[3]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   Date: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:59 AM
   To: Will Kooiman <[4]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Asa Jay Laughton
   <[6]asajay at asajay.com>, POCA <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
   Another new POCA website which has been under development since early
   in the year has failed once again. It's a shame we can't get some
   members with real web-site application development expertise to help
   manage this project for POCA.A
   Jeff
   6559
   On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Will Kooiman
   <[8]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

     I didn't realize there are so many IT people on the list.
     --
     Will
     On 8/20/15 11:42 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
     <[9]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
     wrote:

   >A  A I have been running VMWare for years on my Mac OS.A  Currently
   using
   >A  A v6.0.4.A  A I setup Windoze 7 so that I could run some software
   that
   >A  A is not available for the Mac (Linux).A  A Setup took about 15min
   >A  A including install of the Windoze ISO.A  It does take up 1gb of
   memory.
   >A  A But I
   >A  A have 16gb so it don madder.
   >A  A ALL our ground Flight Systems run SolarisA  9 or 10 and Linux
   VM's.
   >A  A It's a mix currently.A  InSight has gone 100% Linux but there are
   >A  A issues.
   >A  A Linux & LDAP do not work for Team accounts.A  I wish we had the
   good 'ol
   >A  A NIS host back.A  Lots of security issues.A  'nuf said.
   >
   >A  A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   >
   >A  A  A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   >
   >A  A  A to contact us!"
   >
   >A  A Terry W. Himes
   >
   >A  A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   >A  A InSight Sequence Team Lead
   >
   >A  A Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
   >
   >A  A Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >
   >A  A Cell:A  A  A (818) 653-8213
   >
   >A  A Fax:A  A  A (818) 393-3147
   >
   >A  A [1][10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
   >A  A From: DeTomaso <[2][11]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
   Asa Jay
   >A  A Laughton <[3][12]asajay at asajay.com>
   >A  A Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:41 AM
   >A  A To: POCA <[4][13]detomaso at poca.com>
   >A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
   >
   >A  A VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive.
   Once
   >A  A they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much
   easier.
   >A  A I
   >A  A now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several
   different
   >A  A Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
   >A  A I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run
   Windows
   >A  A stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
   >A  A Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
   >A  A others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs.
   The
   >A  A servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a
   heckuva
   >A  A long way.
   >A  A Asa Jay
   >A  A Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   >A  A &A  Shelley Marie
   >A  A Spokane, WA
   >A  A ******************************
   >A  A [5][14]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
   >A  A [6][15]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
   >A  A [7][16]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
   >A  A On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
   >
   >A  A Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see
   more and
   >A  A more
   >
   >A  A of it each day.
   >
   >A  A Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
   >
   >A  A -----Original Message-----
   >
   >A  A From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
   Behalf Of Will
   >A  A Kooiman
   >
   >A  A Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
   >
   >A  A To: Ed Mendez
   >
   >A  A Cc: [9][18]detomaso at poca.com
   >
   >A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
   >A  A investment
   >
   >A  A portfolio?
   >
   >A  A I liked Solaris too.A  Proprietary hardware had no future,
   though.A  Sun
   >A  A was
   >
   >A  A doomed regardless of Oracle's involvement.A  The same was true
   for
   >
   >A  A DEC/Alpha.A  Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because
   of Ken
   >
   >A  A Olsen.A  Water under the bridge.A  Doesn't matter.
   >
   >A  A We're doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.A  It's a very
   stable
   >
   >A  A platform.A  Plus, we're moving more towards VMWare.A  I'm not a
   big fan
   >A  A of
   >
   >A  A VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in
   the
   >A  A big
   >
   >A  A picture.
   >
   >A  A On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10][19]edducati at mac.com>A
   wrote:
   >
   >A  A I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network
   Certificate in
   >
   >A  A 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based
   equipment
   >A  A and
   >
   >A  A a rock solid OS.
   >
   >A  A At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune
   500
   >
   >A  A company.
   >
   >A  A and Then...
   >
   >A  A Larry Ellison F'd it all up.
   >
   >A  A ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
   >
   >A  A A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours.
   Sorry
   >
   >A  A dude.
   >
   >A  A Ed
   >
   >A  A On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will
   >A  A Kooiman<[11][20]will.kooiman at gmail.com>A  wrote:
   >
   >A  A Don^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
   >
   >A  A I did stock market software for about 6 years.A  During that
   time, I was
   >
   >A  A very active in the stock market.A  I had a run for about a year
   where I
   >
   >A  A made about $850K by day trading.A  I was right at $1M, so I
   called it
   >
   >A  A quits
   >
   >A  A and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.A  And
   then,
   >
   >A  A Larry
   >
   >A  A Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.A  A
   year
   >
   >A  A later, my $950K was worth about $90K.A  Numbers are foggy.A
   Don^1t make
   >A  A me
   >
   >A  A look it up.A  I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got
   back into
   >
   >A  A the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the
   adage,
   >
   >A  A easy come, easy go.
   >
   >A  A A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold
   some
   >
   >A  A mutual
   >
   >A  A funds and bought some art.A  We can^1t drive it, but we enjoy
   it.A  It
   >
   >A  A might
   >
   >A  A not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
   >
   >A  A So, that^1s how I view collector cars.A  If you are buying them
   to store
   >
   >A  A and
   >
   >A  A watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at
   buying.
   >
   >A  A If
   >
   >A  A you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
   >
   >A  A polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in
   enjoyment.
   >
   >A  A Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.A  Why does
   >A  A everyone
   >
   >A  A try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
   >
   >A  A On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
   >
   >A  A <[12][21]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
   >A  A [13][22]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>A  wrote:
   >
   >A  A I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
   >
   >A  A I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
   >
   >A  A -----Original Message-----
   >
   >A  A From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
   Behalf Of
   >A  A Thomas
   >
   >A  A Tornblom
   >
   >A  A Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
   >
   >A  A To: [15][24]detomaso at poca.com
   >
   >A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
   >
   >A  A investment
   >
   >A  A portfolio?
   >
   >A  A I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
   program
   >
   >A  A where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
   discount.
   >
   >A  A In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
   >
   >A  A You can see the stock price at:
   >A  A [16][25]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
   >
   >A  A I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy
   about
   >
   >A  A me
   >
   >A  A buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to
   that
   >
   >A  A effect.
   >
   >A  A After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have
   only
   >
   >A  A been
   >
   >A  A worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent
   hike
   >
   >A  A it
   >
   >A  A is
   >
   >A  A now more like 1/10:th.
   >
   >A  A She's happy now :)
   >
   >A  A Cheers,
   >
   >A  A Thomas
   >
   >A  A Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
   >
   >A  A  A  A  I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
   >
   >A  A retirement
   >
   >A  A  A  A  savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with
   everything I had,
   >
   >A  A  A  A  cashed out in 2000.AA  It survived both that recession and
   the next
   >
   >A  A and
   >
   >A  A  A  A  has tripled in value.AA  Not bad!
   >
   >A  A  A  A  But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still
   own it
   >A  A :)
   >
   >A  A  A  A  sean
   >
   >A  A  A  A  On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM,
   >A  A thomas<[1][17][26]thomas at hax.se>A  wrote:
   >
   >A  A  A  A  A  I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5
   in March
   >
   >A  A  A  A  A  2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal
   ever for me.
   >
   >A  A  A  A  A  Thomas
   >
   >A  A 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff
   Detrich<[2][18][27]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
   >
   >A  A AA  A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a
   classic
   >
   >A  A or
   >
   >A  A AA  A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would
   have
   >
   >A  A  A  A  saved you
   >
   >A  A AA  A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that
   count?
   >
   >A  A AA  A Jeff
   >
   >A  A AA  A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
   >
   >A  A AA  A<[1][3][19][28]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>A  wrote:
   >
   >A  A AA  AA  A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this
   morning.
   >
   >A  A  A  A  Here is
   >
   >A  A AA  AA  A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an
   investment.AA
   >
   >A  A  A  A  Would you
   >
   >A  A AA  AA  A agree?
   >
   >A  A AA  A
   >
   >A  A  A  A  A
   >
   >A
   A [2][4][20][29]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost
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   >A  A  A  A  '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59
   A35,'71
   >
   >A  A Pantera
   >
   >A  A  A  A  #1382
   >
   >A  A  A  A  "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get"
   --Miller
   >
   >A  A  A  A  "Computers are useless.AA  They can only give you
   answers." -P.
   >
   >A  A Picasso
   >
   >A  A References
   >
   >A  A  A  A  1. [33]mailto:[44]thomas at hax.se
   >
   >A  A  A  A  2. [34]mailto:[45]jjdetrich at gmail.com
   >
   >A  A  A  A  3. [35]mailto:[46]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
   >
   >A  A  A  A  4.
   >
   >A
   A [36][47]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--neve
   r-a-
   >
   >A  A  A  A  5. [37]mailto:[48]DeTomaso at poca.com
   >
   >A  A  A  A  6.
   [38][49]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   >A  A  A  A  8.
   >
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   A [40][51]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--neve
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