[DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare
Rob Dumoulin
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Thu Aug 20 10:01:04 EDT 2015
I highly recommend Oracle's Virtual Box too. I host development databases
on it in Linux and have installed a few Windows version too, though you do
need a separate license for MS stuff.
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se> wrote:
> VirtualBox is pretty good now, and free.
>
>
> Den 2015-08-20 15:41, Asa Jay Laughton skrev:
>
>> VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive. Once
>> they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much easier. I
>> now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several different
>> Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>>
>> I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
>> stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>>
>> Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
>> others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
>> servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a heckuva
>> long way.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
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>> On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>>
>>> Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more and
>>> more
>>> of it each day.
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Will
>>> Kooiman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>>> To: Ed Mendez
>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>> investment
>>> portfolio?
>>>
>>> I liked Solaris too. Proprietary hardware had no future, though. Sun
>>> was
>>>
>>> doomed regardless of Oracle’s involvement. The same was true for
>>> DEC/Alpha. Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
>>> Olsen. Water under the bridge. Doesn’t matter.
>>>
>>> We’re doing everything on Intel/Linux these days. It’s a very stable
>>> platform. Plus, we’re moving more towards VMWare. I’m not a big fan of
>>> VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in the big
>>> picture.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate in
>>>> 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
>>>> and
>>>> a rock solid OS.
>>>>
>>>> At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
>>>> company.
>>>>
>>>> and Then...
>>>>
>>>> Larry Ellison F’d it all up.
>>>>
>>>> ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>>>>
>>>> A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours. Sorry
>>>> dude.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will Kooiman<will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Don¹t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did stock market software for about 6 years. During that time, I was
>>>>> very active in the stock market. I had a run for about a year where I
>>>>> made about $850K by day trading. I was right at $1M, so I called it
>>>>> quits
>>>>> and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun. And then,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>> Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive. A year
>>>>> later, my $950K was worth about $90K. Numbers are foggy. Don¹t
>>>>> make me
>>>>> look it up. I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back into
>>>>> the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the adage,
>>>>> easy come, easy go.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
>>>>> mutual
>>>>> funds and bought some art. We can¹t drive it, but we enjoy it. It
>>>>> might
>>>>> not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, that¹s how I view collector cars. If you are buying them to store
>>>>> and
>>>>> watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at buying.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>>>>> polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in enjoyment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments. Why does
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>>>>> <detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>>>>>> I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Thomas
>>>>>> Tornblom
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>>>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>>>>> investment
>>>>>> portfolio?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
>>>>>> discount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can see the stock price at:
>>>>>> http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy about
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have only
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent hike
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> now more like 1/10:th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's happy now :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>>>>>>> retirement
>>>>>>> savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
>>>>>>> had,
>>>>>>> cashed out in 2000.A It survived both that recession and the
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> has tripled in value.A Not bad!
>>>>>>> But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own
>>>>>>> it :)
>>>>>>> sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, thomas<[1]thomas at hax.se>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in March
>>>>>>> 2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever for
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff Detrich<[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> saved you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
>>>>>>>> A A Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>>>>>>>> A A<[1][3]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A A A agree?
>>>>>>>> A A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2][4]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Sean Korb [15]spkorb at spkorb.org [16]http://www.spkorb.org
>>>>>>> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71
>>>>>>> Pantera
>>>>>>> #1382
>>>>>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>>>>>> "Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P.
>>>>>>> Picasso
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> 1. mailto:thomas at hax.se
>>>>>>> 2. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>>>>>>> 3. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>>>>>>> 4.
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>>>>>>> 8.
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I highly recommend Oracle's Virtual Box too.A I host development
databases on it in Linux and have installed a few Windows version too,
though you do need a separate license for MS stuff.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1]rob at dumoulins.net
[2]www.kbsi.co
[3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Thomas Tornblom <[4]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
VirtualBox is pretty good now, and free.
Den 2015-08-20 15:41, Asa Jay Laughton skrev:
VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive. Once
they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much easier.
I
now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several different
Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a heckuva
long way.
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&A Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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[6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more and
more
of it each day.
Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Will
Kooiman
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
To: Ed Mendez
Cc: [9]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
investment
portfolio?
I liked Solaris too.A Proprietary hardware had no future, though.A
Sun
was
doomed regardless of Oracleas involvement.A The same was true for
DEC/Alpha.A Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
Olsen.A Water under the bridge.A Doesnat matter.
Weare doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.A Itas a very stable
platform.A Plus, weare moving more towards VMWare.A Iam not a big fan
of
VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in the
big
picture.
On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<[10]edducati at mac.com>A wrote:
I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate in
2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
and
a rock solid OS.
At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
company.
and Then...
Larry Ellison Fad it all up.
ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours. Sorry
dude.
Ed
On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will Kooiman<[11]will.kooiman at gmail.com>A
wrote:
DonA^1t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
I did stock market software for about 6 years.A During that time, I
was
very active in the stock market.A I had a run for about a year where I
made about $850K by day trading.A I was right at $1M, so I called it
quits
and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.A And then,
Larry
Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.A A year
later, my $950K was worth about $90K.A Numbers are foggy.A DonA^1t
make me
look it up.A I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back
into
the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the adage,
easy come, easy go.
A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
mutual
funds and bought some art.A We canA^1t drive it, but we enjoy it.A It
might
not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
So, thatA^1s how I view collector cars.A If you are buying them to
store
and
watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at buying.
If
you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in enjoyment.
Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.A Why does
everyone
try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
<[12]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
[13]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>A wrote:
I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:[14]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Thomas
Tornblom
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
To: [15]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
investment
portfolio?
I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
program
where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
discount.
In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
You can see the stock price at:
[16]http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy about
me
buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
effect.
After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have only
been
worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent hike
it
is
now more like 1/10:th.
She's happy now :)
Cheers,
Thomas
Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
A A I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
retirement
A A savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
had,
A A cashed out in 2000.AA It survived both that recession and the
next
and
A A has tripled in value.AA Not bad!
A A But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own
it :)
A A sean
A A On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, thomas<[1][17]thomas at hax.se>
wrote:
A A A I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in
March
A A A 2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever
for
me.
A A A Thomas
19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff
Detrich<[2][18]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
AA A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
or
AA A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
A A saved you
AA A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
AA A Jeff
AA A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
AA A<[1][3][19]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>A wrote:
AA AA A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
A A Here is
AA AA A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
A A Would you
AA AA A agree?
AA A
A A A
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