[DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Thu Aug 20 10:00:33 EDT 2015 

DOSBox is also a really good one for those old DOS programs you just 
can't live without, but won't run on Windblowz too.

Asa Jay

Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 8/20/2015 6:43 AM, Thomas Tornblom wrote:
> VirtualBox is pretty good now, and free.
>
> Den 2015-08-20 15:41, Asa Jay Laughton skrev:
>> VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive. Once
>> they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much easier. I
>
>> now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several different
>> Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>>
>> I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
>> stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>>
>> Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
>> others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
>> servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a heckuva
>> long way.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &  Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
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>> On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>>> Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more and
>>> more
>>> of it each day.
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Will
>
>>> Kooiman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>>> To: Ed Mendez
>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>> investment
>>> portfolio?
>>>
>>> I liked Solaris too.  Proprietary hardware had no future, though.  Sun
>>> was
>>>
>>> doomed regardless of Oracle’s involvement.  The same was true for
>>> DEC/Alpha.  Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
>>> Olsen.  Water under the bridge.  Doesn’t matter.
>>>
>>> We’re doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.  It’s a very stable
>>> platform.  Plus, we’re moving more towards VMWare.  I’m not a big 
>>> fan of
>>> VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in 
>>> the big
>>> picture.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<edducati at mac.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate in
>
>>>> 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
>>>> and
>>>> a rock solid OS.
>>>>
>>>> At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
>>>> company.
>>>>
>>>> and Then...
>>>>
>>>> Larry Ellison F’d it all up.
>>>>
>>>> ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>>>>
>>>> A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours. Sorry
>
>>>> dude.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will Kooiman<will.kooiman at gmail.com>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Don¹t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did stock market software for about 6 years.  During that time, 
>>>>> I was
>>>>> very active in the stock market.  I had a run for about a year 
>>>>> where I
>>>>> made about $850K by day trading.  I was right at $1M, so I called it
>>>>> quits
>>>>> and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.  And then,
>>>>> Larry
>>>>> Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.  A year
>>>>> later, my $950K was worth about $90K.  Numbers are foggy.  Don¹t
>>>>> make me
>>>>> look it up.  I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back 
>>>>> into
>>>>> the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the 
>>>>> adage,
>>>>> easy come, easy go.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
>>>>> mutual
>>>>> funds and bought some art.  We can¹t drive it, but we enjoy it.  It
>
>>>>> might
>>>>> not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, that¹s how I view collector cars.  If you are buying them to 
>>>>> store
>>>>> and
>>>>> watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at 
>>>>> buying.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>>>>> polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in 
>>>>> enjoyment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.  Why does
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>>>>> <detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of byrdjf at embarqmail.com>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>>>>>> I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> Tornblom
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>>>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>>>>> investment
>>>>>> portfolio?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
>>>>>> discount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can see the stock price at:
>>>>>> http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have 
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent 
>>>>>> hike
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> now more like 1/10:th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's happy now :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>>>>>>>     I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>>>>>>> retirement
>>>>>>>     savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
>>>>>>> had,
>>>>>>>     cashed out in 2000.A  It survived both that recession and the
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>     has tripled in value.A  Not bad!
>>>>>>>     But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own
>>>>>>> it :)
>>>>>>>     sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, thomas<[1]thomas at hax.se>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in 
>>>>>>> March
>>>>>>>       2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever for
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>       Thomas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff Detrich<[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A  A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> A  A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
>
>>>>>>>     saved you
>>>>>>>> A  A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
>>>>>>>> A  A Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A  A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>>>>>>>> A  A<[1][3]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A  A  A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
>
>>>>>>>     Here is
>>>>>>>> A  A  A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
>>>>>>>     Would you
>>>>>>>> A  A  A agree?
>>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>>     A
>>>>>> [2][4]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     a-
>>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>>     A
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>>>>>>>     Sean Korb [15]spkorb at spkorb.org [16]http://www.spkorb.org
>>>>>>>     '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71
>>>>>>> Pantera
>>>>>>>     #1382
>>>>>>>     "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>>>>>>     "Computers are useless.A  They can only give you answers." -P.
>>>>>>> Picasso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1. mailto:thomas at hax.se
>>>>>>>     2. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>>>>>>>     3. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>>>>>>>     4.
>>>>>>> http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-
>>>>>>>     5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>>     6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>>     7. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>>>>>>>     8.
>>>>>> http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-good-in 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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