[DeTomaso] NPC: VMWare

Thomas Tornblom thomas at hax.se
Thu Aug 20 09:43:43 EDT 2015


VirtualBox is pretty good now, and free.

Den 2015-08-20 15:41, Asa Jay Laughton skrev:
> VMware for personal use was a real PITA for years, and expensive. Once
> they came out with VMware Player (for free), it became so much easier. I
> now run VMware Player on my Windows machines and have several different
> Linux VMs that I can run anytime I want or need to.
>
> I've had trouble installing VMware on Linux in order to run Windows
> stuff, but for the most part Wine on Linux seems to work.
>
> Nearly all hosted servers out there in the wild (like GoGaddy and
> others) are running on VMs. The servers I host are all on VMs. The
> servers my employer hosts are nearly all on VMs. They've come a heckuva
> long way.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> &  Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
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> On 8/20/2015 6:23 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
>> Will, I am installing some VM ware as I read your post. I see more and
>> more
>> of it each day.
>>
>>
>> Larry (Novel man) - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Will
>> Kooiman
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:55 PM
>> To: Ed Mendez
>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>> investment
>> portfolio?
>>
>> I liked Solaris too.  Proprietary hardware had no future, though.  Sun
>> was
>>
>> doomed regardless of Oracle’s involvement.  The same was true for
>> DEC/Alpha.  Or maybe you could say that DEC was doomed because of Ken
>> Olsen.  Water under the bridge.  Doesn’t matter.
>>
>> We’re doing everything on Intel/Linux these days.  It’s a very stable
>> platform.  Plus, we’re moving more towards VMWare.  I’m not a big fan of
>> VM from an engineering standpoint, but it makes a lot of sense in the big
>> picture.
>>
>>
>> On 8/19/15, 10:41 PM, "Ed Mendez"<edducati at mac.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> I received my Sun Solaris Unix System Admin and Network Certificate in
>>> 2000, IMHO They were the greatest makers of Unix RISC based equipment
>>> and
>>> a rock solid OS.
>>>
>>> At one point Sun was just about on the backend of every Fortune 500
>>> company.
>>>
>>> and Then...
>>>
>>> Larry Ellison F’d it all up.
>>>
>>> ORACLE = One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison
>>>
>>> A shame. I too lost on Sun shares. Pails in comparison to yours. Sorry
>>> dude.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 19:18, Will Kooiman<will.kooiman at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Don¹t even get me started on Sun Microsystems.
>>>>
>>>> I did stock market software for about 6 years.  During that time, I was
>>>> very active in the stock market.  I had a run for about a year where I
>>>> made about $850K by day trading.  I was right at $1M, so I called it
>>>> quits
>>>> and bought about $600K in Oracle and about $300K in Sun.  And then,
>>>> Larry
>>>> Ellison fired Ray Lane, and both Oracle and Sun took a dive.  A year
>>>> later, my $950K was worth about $90K.  Numbers are foggy.  Don¹t
>>>> make me
>>>> look it up.  I stopped trading for 2-3 years, and briefly got back into
>>>> the market for a slight rebound, but that really drove home the adage,
>>>> easy come, easy go.
>>>>
>>>> A few years later, the stock market was soft, so my wife sold some
>>>> mutual
>>>> funds and bought some art.  We can¹t drive it, but we enjoy it.  It
>>>> might
>>>> not be going up in value, but neither was her mutual fund.
>>>>
>>>> So, that¹s how I view collector cars.  If you are buying them to store
>>>> and
>>>> watch them go up in value, you better be damn good or lucky at buying.
>>>> If
>>>> you plan on spending a lot of time with them, wrenching, washing,
>>>> polishing, or preferably driving them, they pay you back in enjoyment.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody ever talks about buying boats for investments.  Why does
>>>> everyone
>>>> try to make it a big deal with sports cars?
>>>>
>>>> On 8/19/15, 12:21 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr."
>>>> <detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of byrdjf at embarqmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had never seen a LOG scale used to show stock price history!
>>>>> I hope you got the majority of you ESP out!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Thomas
>>>>> Tornblom
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08 AM
>>>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Should we purchase vintage cars for our
>>>>> investment
>>>>> portfolio?
>>>>>
>>>>> I joined Sun in Nov 1996 and got on the employee stock purchase
>>>>> program
>>>>> where we could buy Sun stock for part of our salary, at a 15%
>>>>> discount.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the years they had normally two 1:2 splits per year.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see the stock price at:
>>>>> http://k0lee.com/2009/10/sun-also-sets/
>>>>>
>>>>> I learned after I had bought the car that my wife was not happy about
>>>>> me
>>>>> buying it, and beeing male I guess I was blind to any hints to that
>>>>> effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> After I explained that if I had kept the Sun Stock it would have only
>>>>> been
>>>>> worth about 1/5:th of what the car was worth, and with the recent hike
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> now more like 1/10:th.
>>>>>
>>>>> She's happy now :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Den 2015-08-19 14:12, Sean Korb skrev:
>>>>>>     I really never thought of it that way... I had very meager
>>>>>> retirement
>>>>>>     savings at the time but I bought my Pantera with everything I
>>>>>> had,
>>>>>>     cashed out in 2000.A  It survived both that recession and the
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>     has tripled in value.A  Not bad!
>>>>>>     But that has nothing to do with why I bought it and still own
>>>>>> it :)
>>>>>>     sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:35 AM, thomas<[1]thomas at hax.se>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       I sold most of my Sun Microsystems stock to buy my GT5 in March
>>>>>>       2000. That has turned out to be the best timed deal ever for
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>       Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 19 aug 2015 kl. 01:10 skrev Jeff Detrich<[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A  A If you had used some of your stock portfolio to buy a classic
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> A  A vintage car just before the stock market crash, it would have
>>>>>>     saved you
>>>>>>> A  A from losing a lot of money on those assets. Does that count?
>>>>>>> A  A Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A  A On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:03 PM, John Taphorn
>>>>>>> A  A<[1][3]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A  A  A This Bloomberg story greeted me at my office this morning.
>>>>>>     Here is
>>>>>>> A  A  A one person's opinion on vintage cars as an investment.AA
>>>>>>     Would you
>>>>>>> A  A  A agree?
>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>     A
>>>>> [2][4]http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-
>>>>>>     a-
>>>>>>> A  A
>>>>>>     A
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>>>>>>     Sean Korb [15]spkorb at spkorb.org [16]http://www.spkorb.org
>>>>>>     '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71
>>>>>> Pantera
>>>>>>     #1382
>>>>>>     "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>>>>>>     "Computers are useless.A  They can only give you answers." -P.
>>>>>> Picasso
>>>>>>
>>>>>> References
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     1. mailto:thomas at hax.se
>>>>>>     2. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>>>>>>     3. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>>>>>>     4.
>>>>>> http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-
>>>>>>     5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>>>>     6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>>>>     7. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
>>>>>>     8.
>>>>> http://www.fa-mag.com/news/why-a-classic-car-is--almost--never-a-good-in
>>>>>
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