[DeTomaso] Fwd: Re: Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
Dave Londry
davel at emspace.com
Wed Aug 12 12:58:47 EDT 2015
Hey, hey, hey.
It's the Fat Albert wing.
Mid chassis, hydraulically raised at speed, long chord, hydraulically
variable angle of attack.
Needs a but more work to tune the effective front/rear load distribution
though.
dave
On 12/08/2015 9:17 AM, bens1 via DeTomaso wrote:
> Mike,
> I thought about a wing in the front a long time ago
> Just not sure I want to go there.. but now that it
> has come up again:)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew<MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich<jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: jderyke<jderyke at aol.com>; kenn_green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>;
> rcbsons1<rcbsons1 at aol.com>; detomaso<detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2015 8:59 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
> Jeff,
>
> You're right in a way. Think about the wing setups on sprint cars.
>
>
> Mike (don't go giving Bob any more ideas!)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug
> 12, 2015, at 8:25, Jeff Detrich<[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought
> the reason for moving the wing back was to get it into the
>> right kind of
> airflow?A
>> On another thought, it would seem that a wing over the center
> of
>> gravity of the car would be ideal? It would bias the force effect to
>>
> the back of the car(drag acting on a lever) but still provide some
>> front
> end downforce.A
>> Jeff - it's a slow day and my mind is just wandering
>>
> 6559
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>>
> <[1][2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> A A ALL rear wings or spoilers reduce
> front loading since the car
>> will
>> A A pivot around its center of
> balance with applied loads on either
>> end. A
>> A A wing like Jr's
> mounted on brackets behind the chassis simply
>> has more
>> A A
> leverage to do so. One cannot treat the two ends of the car as
>> A A
> independent things in this case.
>> A A As for alignment spec's for radial
> tires, unless you have
>> unlimited
>> A A power, use as little toe-in
> as safely possible on either end to
>> reduce
>> A A tire drag, with at
> least 4-1/2 degrees of camber for stability.
>> Don't
>> A A be
> surprised if the left & right sides wind up with slightly
>> different
>>
> A A cambers using identical adjustments. And test the new alignment
> first!
>> A A You may not like how it handles. Good luck- J DeRyke
>> A
> A -----Original Message-----
>> A A From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[2][3]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A To: rcbsons1<[3][4]rcbsons1 at aol.com>;
> henrik.svensson
>> A A<[4][5]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso
>>
> <[5][6]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:20 pm
>> A A
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
>> A A I'd be a little
> careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the
>> down
>> A A force
> there would reduce the weight on the front wheels.A
>> Maybe you
>> A A
> can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a
> problem,
>> A A but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.
>> A
> A You might want to talk to Goran
>> ([1][1][6][7]http://www.hemipanter.se/)A
> I
>> A A wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for
>>
> A A Panteras.
>> A A Ken
>> A A
>> A
> __________________________________________________________________
>> A A
> From: bens1 via DeTomaso<[2][7][8]detomaso at poca.com>
>> A A To:
> [3][8][9]kenn_green at yahoo.com;
>> [4][9][10]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se;
>> A
> A [5][10][11]detomaso at poca.com
>> A A Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:08 AM
>>
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
>> A A A I had mine
> made (the upper part) about 11 years back and
>> that company
>> A A A
> is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they
>> would not
>>
> A A make
>> A A A The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still
> in
>> Monterey
>> A A A last I heard... not sure if he has any thing
> on the wing..
>> my guess
>> A A A is it made the whole thing himself
> as he is a machinist and
>> not
>> A A afraid
>> A A A to fab
> anything
>> A A A Bob
>> A A A -----Original Message-----
>> A
> A A From: Ken Green<[2][6][11][12]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> A A A To: Henrik
> Svensson
>> <[3][7][12][13]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso
>> A A
> A<[4][8][13][14]detomaso at poca.com>; Bob Benson
> <[5][9][14][15]rcbsons1 at aol.com>
>> A A A Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 8:51 am
>>
> A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
>> A A A That
> kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?
>> A A A Inline image
>> A A A
> Ken
>> A A A
>> A
> __________________________________________________________________
>> A A
> A From: Henrik Svensson
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>>
> A A A To:"[2][7][11][16][17]detomaso at poca.com"
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>> A A A Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 6:44 AM
>> A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
>> A A
> A Hi
>> A A A I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm
>>
> thinking of
>> A A A rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the
> Silver
>> State
>> A A A Classic.
>> A A A Anyone that have any
> more pictures that could help me
>> recreating it?
>> A A A
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> Henrik
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Hey, hey, hey.
It's the Fat Albert wing.
Mid chassis, hydraulically raised at speed, long chord, hydraulically
variable angle of attack.
Needs a but more work to tune the effective front/rear load
distribution though.
dave
On 12/08/2015 9:17 AM, bens1 via DeTomaso wrote:
Mike,
I thought about a wing in the front a long time ago
Just not sure I want to go there.. but now that it
has come up again:)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Drew [1]<MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: Jeff Detrich [2]<jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc: jderyke [3]<jderyke at aol.com>; kenn_green [4]<kenn_green at yahoo.com>;
rcbsons1 [5]<rcbsons1 at aol.com>; detomaso [6]<detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2015 8:59 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
Jeff,
You're right in a way. Think about the wing setups on sprint cars.
Mike (don't go giving Bob any more ideas!)
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug
12, 2015, at 8:25, Jeff Detrich [7]<[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
I thought
the reason for moving the wing back was to get it into the
right kind of
airflow?A
On another thought, it would seem that a wing over the center
of
gravity of the car would be ideal? It would bias the force effect to
the back of the car(drag acting on a lever) but still provide some
front
end downforce.A
Jeff - it's a slow day and my mind is just wandering
6559
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
[8]<[1][2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A ALL rear wings or spoilers reduce
front loading since the car
will
A A pivot around its center of
balance with applied loads on either
end. A
A A wing like Jr's
mounted on brackets behind the chassis simply
has more
A A
leverage to do so. One cannot treat the two ends of the car as
A A
independent things in this case.
A A As for alignment spec's for radial
tires, unless you have
unlimited
A A power, use as little toe-in
as safely possible on either end to
reduce
A A tire drag, with at
least 4-1/2 degrees of camber for stability.
Don't
A A be
surprised if the left & right sides wind up with slightly
different
A A cambers using identical adjustments. And test the new alignment
first!
A A You may not like how it handles. Good luck- J DeRyke
A
A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
[9]<[2][3]detomaso at poca.com>
A A To: rcbsons1 [10]<[3][4]rcbsons1 at aol.com>;
henrik.svensson
A A [11]<[4][5]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso
[12]<[5][6]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:20 pm
A A
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
A A I'd be a little
careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the
down
A A force
there would reduce the weight on the front wheels.A
Maybe you
A A
can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a
problem,
A A but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.
A
A You might want to talk to Goran
([1][1][6][7][13]http://www.hemipanter.se/)A
I
A A wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for
A A Panteras.
A A Ken
A A
A
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A A
From: bens1 via DeTomaso [14]<[2][7][8]detomaso at poca.com>
A A To:
[3][8][[15]9]kenn_green at yahoo.com;
[4][9][[16]10]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se;
A
A [5][10][[17]11]detomaso at poca.com
A A Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:08 AM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
A A A I had mine
made (the upper part) about 11 years back and
that company
A A A
is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they
would not
A A make
A A A The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still
in
Monterey
A A A last I heard... not sure if he has any thing
on the wing..
my guess
A A A is it made the whole thing himself
as he is a machinist and
not
A A afraid
A A A to fab
anything
A A A Bob
A A A -----Original Message-----
A
A A From: Ken Green [18]<[2][6][11][12]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
A A A To: Henrik
Svensson
[19]<[3][7][12][13]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso
A A
A [20]<[4][8][13][14]detomaso at poca.com>; Bob Benson
[21]<[5][9][14][15]rcbsons1 at aol.com>
A A A Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 8:51 am
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
A A A That
kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?
A A A Inline image
A A A
Ken
A A A
A
__________________________________________________________________
A A
A From: Henrik Svensson
[22]<[1][6][10][15][16]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>
A A A To: [23]"[2][7][11][16][17]detomaso at poca.com"
[24]<[3][8][12][17][18]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
6:44 AM
A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
A A
A Hi
A A A I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm
thinking of
A A A rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the
Silver
State
A A A Classic.
A A A Anyone that have any
more pictures that could help me
recreating it?
A A A
[4][9][13][18][19][25]http://www.garaget.org/?car=163523a=2112613
A A A
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