[DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
Mike Drew
MikeLDrew at aol.com
Wed Aug 12 11:59:06 EDT 2015
Jeff,
You're right in a way. Think about the wing setups on sprint cars.
Mike (don't go giving Bob any more ideas!)
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:25, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought the reason for moving the wing back was to get it into the
> right kind of airflow?A
> On another thought, it would seem that a wing over the center of
> gravity of the car would be ideal? It would bias the force effect to
> the back of the car(drag acting on a lever) but still provide some
> front end downforce.A
> Jeff - it's a slow day and my mind is just wandering
> 6559
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
> <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A A ALL rear wings or spoilers reduce front loading since the car
> will
> A A pivot around its center of balance with applied loads on either
> end. A
> A A wing like Jr's mounted on brackets behind the chassis simply
> has more
> A A leverage to do so. One cannot treat the two ends of the car as
> A A independent things in this case.
> A A As for alignment spec's for radial tires, unless you have
> unlimited
> A A power, use as little toe-in as safely possible on either end to
> reduce
> A A tire drag, with at least 4-1/2 degrees of camber for stability.
> Don't
> A A be surprised if the left & right sides wind up with slightly
> different
> A A cambers using identical adjustments. And test the new alignment
> first!
> A A You may not like how it handles. Good luck- J DeRyke
> A A -----Original Message-----
> A A From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> A A To: rcbsons1 <[3]rcbsons1 at aol.com>; henrik.svensson
> A A <[4]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso
> <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> A A Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 1:20 pm
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
> A A I'd be a little careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the
> down
> A A force there would reduce the weight on the front wheels.A
> Maybe you
> A A can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a
> problem,
> A A but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.
> A A You might want to talk to Goran
> ([1][1][6]http://www.hemipanter.se/)A I
> A A wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for
> A A Panteras.
> A A Ken
> A A
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> A A Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:08 AM
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
> A A A I had mine made (the upper part) about 11 years back and
> that company
> A A A is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they
> would not
> A A make
> A A A The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still in
> Monterey
> A A A last I heard... not sure if he has any thing on the wing..
> my guess
> A A A is it made the whole thing himself as he is a machinist and
> not
> A A afraid
> A A A to fab anything
> A A A Bob
> A A A -----Original Message-----
> A A A From: Ken Green <[2][6][11]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> A A A To: Henrik Svensson
> <[3][7][12]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso
> A A A <[4][8][13]detomaso at poca.com>; Bob Benson
> <[5][9][14]rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> A A A Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 8:51 am
> A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
> A A A That kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?
> A A A Inline image
> A A A Ken
> A A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A A From: Henrik Svensson
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> A A A Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:44 AM
> A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
> A A A Hi
> A A A I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm
> thinking of
> A A A rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the Silver
> State
> A A A Classic.
> A A A Anyone that have any more pictures that could help me
> recreating it?
> A A A [4][9][13][18]http://www.garaget.org/?car=163523a=2112613
> A A A Henrik
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