[DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing

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Mon Aug 10 15:26:59 EDT 2015


I read somewhere the new Zo6 aero package puts a huge amount
of down force on the car... my buddy who designed wings said Yeah
but at what speed.... 200mph???... they really don't say and that
makes a big difference

Bob

 

 

 

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From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing


 
  
     
  
I have a vague recollection that Jim Hall got so much down force from at least one wing design that he had to direct the force to the unsprung elements of the rear suspension.  I don't recall where I read that, but I think it was really serious down force.  
  
   
  
  
Ken   
    
  
    
     
      
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 To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; henrik.svensson at intelligo.se; detomaso at poca.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
      
     
     
  I am told by a few that the angle of my wing is not steep enough     
  to add much downforce so it works for my car.... I have run 166 mph     
  with no adverse effects but I do have an extender on my gts spoiler to     
  help keep my front end down     
  I have run with and without the wing on the track and see no difference     
  As Mike Drew has stated it is just a fancy coffee bar:)     
  I told him that wing has brought a lot of Pantera awareness to the     
  rest of the world.. they all know it is a Pantera with a big ass wing     
  Bob     
     
  -----Original Message-----     
  From: Ken Green <     kenn_green at yahoo.com>     
  To: rcbsons1 <     rcbsons1 at aol.com>; henrik.svensson     
  <     henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso <     detomaso at poca.com>     
  Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 11:25 am     
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing     
  I'd be a little careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the down     
  force there would reduce the weight on the front wheels.  Maybe you     
  can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a problem,     
  but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.     
  You might want to talk to Goran ( [1]     http://www.hemipanter.se/)  I     
  wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for     
  Panteras.     
  Ken     
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  From: bens1 via DeTomaso <[2]     detomaso at poca.com>     
  To: [3]     kenn_green at yahoo.com; [4]     henrik.svensson at intelligo.se;     
  [5]     detomaso at poca.com     
  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:08 AM     
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing     
    I had mine made (the upper part) about 11 years back and that company     
    is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they would not     
  make     
    The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still in Monterey     
    last I heard... not sure if he has any thing on the wing.. my guess     
    is it made the whole thing himself as he is a machinist and not     
  afraid     
    to fab anything     
    Bob     
    -----Original Message-----     
    From: Ken Green < [6]     kenn_green at yahoo.com>     
    To: Henrik Svensson < [7]     henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso     
    < [8]     detomaso at poca.com>; Bob Benson < [9]     rcbsons1 at aol.com>     
    Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 8:51 am     
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing     
    That kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?     
    Inline image     
    Ken     
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    From: Henrik Svensson <[1] [10]     henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>     
    To: "[2] [11]     detomaso at poca.com" <[3] [12]     detomaso at poca.com>     
    Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:44 AM     
    Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing     
    Hi     
    I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm thinking of     
    rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the Silver State     
    Classic.     
    Anyone that have any more pictures that could help me recreating it?     
    [4] [13]     http://www.garaget.org/?car=163523a=2112613     
    Henrik     
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   I read somewhere the new Zo6 aero package puts a huge amount
   of down force on the car... my buddy who designed wings said Yeah
   but at what speed.... 200mph???... they really don't say and that
   makes a big difference
   Bob

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   To: rcbsons1 <rcbsons1 at aol.com>; henrik.svensson
   <henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 12:08 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
   I have a vague recollection that Jim Hall got so much down force from
   at least one wing design that he had to direct the force to the
   unsprung elements of the rear suspension.  I don't recall where I read
   that, but I think it was really serious down force.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: bens1 via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
   To: [2]kenn_green at yahoo.com; [3]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se;
   [4]detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:44 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
     I am told by a few that the angle of my wing is not steep enough
     to add much downforce so it works for my car.... I have run 166 mph
     with no adverse effects but I do have an extender on my gts spoiler
   to
     help keep my front end down
     I have run with and without the wing on the track and see no
   difference
     As Mike Drew has stated it is just a fancy coffee bar:)
     I told him that wing has brought a lot of Pantera awareness to the
     rest of the world.. they all know it is a Pantera with a big ass wing
     Bob
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Ken Green < [5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
     To: rcbsons1 < [6]rcbsons1 at aol.com>; henrik.svensson
     < [7]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>; detomaso < [8]detomaso at poca.com>
     Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 11:25 am
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
     I'd be a little careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the down
     force there would reduce the weight on the front wheels.  Maybe you
     can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a
   problem,
     but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.
     You might want to talk to Goran ( [1] [9]http://www.hemipanter.se/)
   I
     wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for
     Panteras.
     Ken
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: bens1 via DeTomaso <[2] [10]detomaso at poca.com>
     To: [3] [11]kenn_green at yahoo.com; [4]
   [12]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se;
     [5] [13]detomaso at poca.com
     Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:08 AM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
       I had mine made (the upper part) about 11 years back and that
   company
       is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they would not
     make
       The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still in Monterey
       last I heard... not sure if he has any thing on the wing.. my guess
       is it made the whole thing himself as he is a machinist and not
     afraid
       to fab anything
       Bob
       -----Original Message-----
       From: Ken Green < [6] [14]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
       To: Henrik Svensson < [7] [15]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>;
   detomaso
       < [8] [16]detomaso at poca.com>; Bob Benson < [9]
   [17]rcbsons1 at aol.com>
       Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 8:51 am
       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
       That kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?
       Inline image
       Ken

   __________________________________________________________________
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       To: "[2] [11] [19]detomaso at poca.com" <[3] [12]
   [20]detomaso at poca.com>
       Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:44 AM
       Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
       Hi
       I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm thinking of
       rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the Silver State
       Classic.
       Anyone that have any more pictures that could help me recreating
   it?
       [4] [13] [21]http://www.garaget.org/?car=163523a=2112613
       Henrik
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