[DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
Ken Green
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Mon Aug 10 15:08:36 EDT 2015
I have a vague recollection that Jim Hall got so much down force from at least one wing design that he had to direct the force to the unsprung elements of the rear suspension. I don't recall where I read that, but I think it was really serious down force.
Ken
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I am told by a few that the angle of my wing is not steep enough
to add much downforce so it works for my car.... I have run 166 mph
with no adverse effects but I do have an extender on my gts spoiler to
help keep my front end down
I have run with and without the wing on the track and see no difference
As Mike Drew has stated it is just a fancy coffee bar:)
I told him that wing has brought a lot of Pantera awareness to the
rest of the world.. they all know it is a Pantera with a big ass wing
Bob
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I'd be a little careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the down
force there would reduce the weight on the front wheels. Maybe you
can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a problem,
but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.
You might want to talk to Goran ( [1]http://www.hemipanter.se/) I
wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for
Panteras.
Ken
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I had mine made (the upper part) about 11 years back and that company
is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they would not
make
The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still in Monterey
last I heard... not sure if he has any thing on the wing.. my guess
is it made the whole thing himself as he is a machinist and not
afraid
to fab anything
Bob
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That kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?
Inline image
Ken
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
Hi
I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm thinking of
rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the Silver State
Classic.
Anyone that have any more pictures that could help me recreating it?
[4] [13]http://www.garaget.org/?car=163523a=2112613
Henrik
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I have a vague recollection that Jim Hall got so much down force from
at least one wing design that he had to direct the force to the
unsprung elements of the rear suspension. I don't recall where I read
that, but I think it was really serious down force.
Ken
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
I am told by a few that the angle of my wing is not steep enough
to add much downforce so it works for my car.... I have run 166 mph
with no adverse effects but I do have an extender on my gts spoiler
to
help keep my front end down
I have run with and without the wing on the track and see no
difference
As Mike Drew has stated it is just a fancy coffee bar:)
I told him that wing has brought a lot of Pantera awareness to the
rest of the world.. they all know it is a Pantera with a big ass wing
Bob
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
I'd be a little careful about a wing behind the rear axels, the down
force there would reduce the weight on the front wheels. Maybe you
can't get enough down force from this type of wing to create a
problem,
but with a 200 MPH plus car, I'd want to be sure.
You might want to talk to Goran ( [1][5]http://www.hemipanter.se/) I
wouldn't be surprised if he has done some analysis on wings for
Panteras.
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
I had mine made (the upper part) about 11 years back and that
company
is no longer.. it was a modified Corvette wing.... they would not
make
The supports.. that was my design... Jr Wilson is still in Monterey
last I heard... not sure if he has any thing on the wing.. my guess
is it made the whole thing himself as he is a machinist and not
afraid
to fab anything
Bob
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To: Henrik Svensson < [7][11]henrik.svensson at intelligo.se>;
detomaso
< [8][12]detomaso at poca.com>; Bob Benson < [9][13]rcbsons1 at aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 8:51 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
That kinda looks like Bob Benson's wing?
Inline image
Ken
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Jr. Wilson Pantera wing
Hi
I'm the current owner of a Jr. Wilson Pantera and I'm thinking of
rebuilding the "crazy" wing he used when running the Silver State
Classic.
Anyone that have any more pictures that could help me recreating
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[4] [13][17]http://www.garaget.org/?car=163523a=2112613
Henrik
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