[DeTomaso] Insurance Coverage Limits

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 23:18:15 EDT 2015


Most of the financial planners I¹ve known were very professional.  I¹ve
met the insurance salesman types too, but I¹ve met far more that were
professional.


On 4/29/15, 9:17 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>   Most" financial planners" I know aren't really financial planners but
>   insurance salesmen. They specialize in annuities ( which are a form of
>   insurance) and life insurance. So it's A funny for me to hear an
>   "insurance planner" advise against covering an asset that has increased
>   in value.Maybe it's because it's coverage that they don't sell! In most
>   of the cases I have heard discussed we are not talking about chump
>   change . Most of these people haven't increased their coverage in
>   years. So $40k's worth of coverage with a current value between A $65K
>   and $85 K is not what I would consider a prudent amount of uninsured
>   risk. After 25 years in the car business I can say the biggest mistake
>   people make is getting talked into disability A or life insurance on a
>   new auto purchase. It is much smarter to increase the value of your
>   whole life policy to compensate for the added liability of a new car
>   purchase. Insuring a collectible for it's full value A (or close to it)
>   is good planning ( whether it's a collectible car or a piece of art
>   work).Just make sure it's a guaranteed value policy. With $95K of
>   coverage for $600 and change it's a great value.
>   Boyd
>
>   On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Michael Shortt
>   <[1]michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     A  A My annual premium is less than 1/2 of 1% of the value of my
>     car,
>     A  A prudent because I live in a state where 1 out of 7 motorists
>     (according
>     A  A to the police) are uninsured and 1/2 of the remaining cars have
>     min.
>     A  A coverage with 25,000 limits.
>     A  A I'd say that if $400 is gonna kill you, maybe you shouldn't own
>     a
>     A  A Pantera.
>     A  A Michael
>     A  A On Apr 29, 2015 6:48 PM, "John Taphorn"
>     <[1][2]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
>     A  A wrote:
>     A  A  A AA  A I am a little surprised about the opinion that seems
>     to be
>     A  A  A frequently
>     A  A  A AA  A vocalized about insuring your one's car to the market
>     value.A
>     A  A  A Insurance
>     A  A  A AA  A companies are happy to fully insure responsible
>     drivers.AA  Of
>     A  A  A course
>     A  A  A AA  A that is how they make money.
>     A  A  A AA  A I believe that I could have purchased a second Pantera
>     with the
>     A  A  A AA  A premiums that I have paid over my 35 years of
>     ownership.AA  My
>     A  A  A point is
>     A  A  A AA  A that if you you have other assets, it is prudent to
>     self insure
>     A  A  A part of
>     A  A  A AA  A the car.AA  The risk to you is only on damages
>     exceeding the
>     A  A  A valuation.
>     A  A  A AA  A Only insure risks that you can't afford.
>     A  A  A AA  A I get it if the car represents all your savings and
>     you
>     A  A  A couldn't afford
>     A  A  A AA  A to replace in the unlikely event it was totaled.AA
>     Otherwise,
>     A  A  A not so
>     A  A  A AA  A much.
>     A  A  A AA  A As a financial planner, I cringe every time I hear
>     someone
>     A  A  A espouse it
>     A  A  A AA  A is financially wise to call their insurance agent
>     because their
>     A  A  A car has
>     A  A  A AA  A gone up in value.AA  If you got wealth, probably not
>     the prudent
>     A  A  A path.
>     A  A  A AA  A JT
>     A  A  A AA  A On 4/29/2015 9:49 AM, Charles McCall wrote:
>     A  A  A AA  A Don't know, but my classic car insurance company in
>     Spain made
>     A  A  A a
>     A  A  A AA  A similar request. I sent them ads to justify increasing
>     the
>     A  A  A value on my
>     A  A  A AA  A policy. After a few, erm, debates they sent an
>     appraiser to
>     A  A  A look at my
>     A  A  A AA  A car and I'm waiting for his report. In my case, I have
>     more
>     A  A  A interest in
>     A  A  A AA  A being properly insured than they do, so I did some of
>     the
>     A  A  A legwork to
>     A  A  A AA  A make sure it was right.
>     A  A  A AA  A A
>     A  A  A AA  A I'd be really happy if I could have a policy that says
>     "if my
>     A  A  A car blows
>     A  A  A AA  A up, I just want another one in the same condition, not
>     more,
>     A  A  A not less".
>     A  A  A AA  A I don't want to make money or lose money, just make
>     sure that
>     A  A  A my
>     A  A  A AA  A investment is covered.
>     A  A  A AA  A On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Julian Kift
>     A  A  A AA  A [1]<[1][2][3]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A Send them a link to the Hagerty valuation
>     page, that
>     A  A  A is made up
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A of a
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A cross section of sales, or a copy of the
>     relevant page
>     A  A  A from
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A latest
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A Glass's Classic car value guide.
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A The question is why do you have to do the
>     legwork and
>     A  A  A become
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A their risk
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A underwriter? They should be aware of the
>     current
>     A  A  A market values,
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A unless you are trying to convince them you
>     have a 1:10
>     A  A  A or so
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A that is
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A worth signiificantly more?
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A Julian
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A From: [[2]2][3][4]michaelsavga at gmail.com
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:23:11 -0400
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A To: [[3]3][4][5]detomaso at poca.com
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A AAA  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Insurance Coverage
>     Limits
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A Greetings all,
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A In light of the rapidly rising values of our cars,
>     we need
>     A  A  A to
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A establish a
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A database of recent sales for comps to supply to
>     carriers.
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A My agency Barrett-Jackson ( AIG underwrites it )
>     is asking.
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A If any or all of you can send links to recent
>     sales at any
>     A  A  A location,
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A private sale, auction, dealer.
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A Please help,
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A I'll share all the info.
>     A  A  A AA  AA  A Michael Shortt
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