[DeTomaso] pantera dimensions

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Hugh
Tell u haul the car is a mustang.

I have used u haul without issues. 

Bob 

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Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>The engine transaxle comment were in reference to Mikes comments about
>front and rear drive and weight distribution. I am having the engine
>shipped to ron McCall but the car is being towed without an engine. I have
>towed this car with the identical trailer from Boston to long Island with
>no problem. Robert Levitt has done the same to VT and a few other places
>also with no problem.
>Boyd
>
>On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
>> Well.... From my perspective, installing an engine and transmission goes a
>> long way to get it running properly.. :)
>>
>>
>> Trailer it down, drive it home.  But yes... I'd recommend an enclosed
>> trailer.  Hook up with some other car club guys.  Pay their gas and have
>> them (with you)/tow it for you.  A trip of a couple hundred miles is easy;
>> done in a day trip.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>> <borrowed friends trailers before>
>>
>>
>> *Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks*
>>
>>
>> Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw &
>> transaxle installed.
>>
>> Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
>>
>> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
>> To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>
>> I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or trans axle
>> installed.Boyd
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Boyd,
>>
>> Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to somewhere
>> like Empire (empirerac.com) and rent an enclosed auto transporter for ~
>> $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options in the big city!
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
>> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
>> McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomaso  pantera is ,so the want all
>> sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented their
>> trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me the
>> length, width, height, wheel base  and wheel width and height. Thanks.
>> Boyd
>>
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>>    Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw &
>>    transaxle installed.
>>
>>    Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
>>      __________________________________________________________________
>>
>>    Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>>    From: boyd411 at gmail.com
>>    To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>    CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>    I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or trans axle
>>    installed.
>>    Boyd
>>    On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
>>    <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>    Boyd,
>>
>>    Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to
>>    somewhere like Empire ([2]empirerac.com) and rent an enclosed auto
>>    transporter for ~ $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options in the
>>    big city!
>>
>>    Julian
>>
>>    Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
>>    From: [3]boyd411 at gmail.com
>>    To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>>    Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>> Hi all,
>> I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
>> McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomaso  pantera is ,so the want all
>> sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented their
>> trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me the
>> length, width, height, wheel base  and wheel width and height. Thanks.
>> Boyd
>>
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>>
>>    1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>    2. http://empirerac.com/
>>    3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>>    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>>    5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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>
>   The engine transaxle comment were in reference to Mikes comments about
>   front and rear drive and weight distribution. I am having the engine
>   shipped to ron McCall but the car is being towed without an engine. I
>   have towed this car with the identical trailer from Boston to long
>   Island with no problem. Robert Levitt has done the same to VT and a few
>   other places also with no problem.
>   Boyd
>
>   On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
>   <[1]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
>   Well.... From my perspective, installing an engine and transmission
>   goes a long way to get it running properly.. :)
>   Trailer it down, drive it home.A  But yes... I'd recommend an enclosed
>   trailer.A  Hook up with some other car club guys.A  Pay their gas and
>   have them (with you)/tow it for you.A  A trip of a couple hundred miles
>   is easy; done in a day trip.
>   Asa Jay
>   <borrowed friends trailers before>
>   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
>
>     Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>     Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw &
>     transaxle installed.
>     Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
>
>   Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>   From: [3]boyd411 at gmail.com
>   To: [4]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   CC: [5]detomaso at poca.com
>   I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or trans axle
>   installed.Boyd
>   On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
>   <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   Boyd,
>   Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to
>   somewhere like Empire ([7]empirerac.com) and rent an enclosed auto
>   transporter for ~ $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options in the
>   big city!
>   Julian
>   Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
>   From: [8]boyd411 at gmail.com
>   To: [9]detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>   Hi all,
>   I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
>   McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomasoA  pantera is ,so the want
>   all
>   sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented their
>   trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me the
>   length, width, height, wheel baseA  and wheel width and height. Thanks.
>   Boyd
>   _______________________________________________
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>   A A  A
>   A A  Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw
>   &
>   A A  transaxle installed.
>   A A  Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
>
>     A A A A
>     __________________________________________________________________
>     A A  Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
>     A A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>     A A  From: [12]boyd411 at gmail.com
>     A A  To: [13]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>     A A  CC: [14]detomaso at poca.com
>     A A  I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or
>     trans axle
>     A A  installed.
>     A A  Boyd
>     A A  On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
>     A A  <[1][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>     A A  Boyd,
>     A A  Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to
>     A A  somewhere like Empire ([2][16]empirerac.com) and rent an
>     enclosed auto
>     A A  transporter for ~ $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options
>     in the
>     A A  big city!
>     A A  Julian
>     A A  Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
>     A A  From: [3][17]boyd411 at gmail.com
>     A A  To: [4][18]detomaso at poca.com
>     A A  Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
>     Hi all,
>     I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
>     McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomasoA  pantera is ,so the
>     want all
>     sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented
>     their
>     trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me
>     the
>     length, width, height, wheel baseA  and wheel width and height.
>     Thanks.
>     Boyd
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>     A A  1. mailto:[21]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>     A A  2. [22]http://empirerac.com/
>     A A  3. mailto:[23]boyd411 at gmail.com
>     A A  4. mailto:[24]detomaso at poca.com
>     A A  5. mailto:[25]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>References
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>   1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
>   2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>   4. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   7. http://empirerac.com/
>   8. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>   9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>  12. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>  13. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>  14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  15. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>  16. http://empirerac.com/
>  17. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>  18. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>  20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>  21. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>  22. http://empirerac.com/
>  23. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>  24. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>  25. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>  26. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>  27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>  28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   Hugh
   Tell u haul the car is a mustang.
   I have used u haul without issues.
   Bob
   Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

   Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   The engine transaxle comment were in reference to Mikes comments about
   front and rear drive and weight distribution. I am having the engine
   shipped to ron McCall but the car is being towed without an engine. I
   have
   towed this car with the identical trailer from Boston to long Island
   with
   no problem. Robert Levitt has done the same to VT and a few other
   places
   also with no problem.
   Boyd
   On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   wrote:
   > Well.... From my perspective, installing an engine and transmission
   goes a
   > long way to get it running properly.. :)
   >
   >
   > Trailer it down, drive it home.  But yes... I'd recommend an enclosed
   > trailer.  Hook up with some other car club guys.  Pay their gas and
   have
   > them (with you)/tow it for you.  A trip of a couple hundred miles is
   easy;
   > done in a day trip.
   >
   > Asa Jay
   > <borrowed friends trailers before>
   >
   >
   > *Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks*
   >
   >
   > Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw &
   > transaxle installed.
   >
   > Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
   >
   > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
   > From: boyd411 at gmail.com
   > To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   >
   > I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or trans
   axle
   > installed.Boyd
   > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
   <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   >
   >
   > Boyd,
   >
   > Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to
   somewhere
   > like Empire (empirerac.com) and rent an enclosed auto transporter for
   ~
   > $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options in the big city!
   >
   > Julian
   >
   > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
   > From: boyd411 at gmail.com
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
   > McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomaso  pantera is ,so the
   want all
   > sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented their
   > trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me
   the
   > length, width, height, wheel base  and wheel width and height.
   Thanks.
   > Boyd
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
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   > the links above.
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   >
   >    Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw
   &
   >    transaxle installed.
   >
   >    Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >    Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
   >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
   >    From: boyd411 at gmail.com
   >    To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
   >    CC: detomaso at poca.com
   >    I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or trans
   axle
   >    installed.
   >    Boyd
   >    On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
   >    <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >    Boyd,
   >
   >    Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to
   >    somewhere like Empire ([2]empirerac.com) and rent an enclosed auto
   >    transporter for ~ $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options in
   the
   >    big city!
   >
   >    Julian
   >
   >    Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
   >    From: [3]boyd411 at gmail.com
   >    To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
   >    Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
   > Hi all,
   > I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
   > McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomaso  pantera is ,so the
   want all
   > sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented their
   > trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me
   the
   > length, width, height, wheel base  and wheel width and height.
   Thanks.
   > Boyd
   >
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   > References
   >
   >    1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   >    2. http://empirerac.com/
   >    3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   >    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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      The engine transaxle comment were in reference to Mikes comments
   about
      front and rear drive and weight distribution. I am having the engine
      shipped to ron McCall but the car is being towed without an engine.
   I
      have towed this car with the identical trailer from Boston to long
      Island with no problem. Robert Levitt has done the same to VT and a
   few
      other places also with no problem.
      Boyd
      On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
      <[1]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
      Well.... From my perspective, installing an engine and transmission
      goes a long way to get it running properly.. :)
      Trailer it down, drive it home.A  But yes... I'd recommend an
   enclosed
      trailer.A  Hook up with some other car club guys.A  Pay their gas
   and
      have them (with you)/tow it for you.A  A trip of a couple hundred
   miles
      is easy; done in a day trip.
      Asa Jay
      <borrowed friends trailers before>
      Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
        Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
        Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an enginw
   &
        transaxle installed.
        Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
      Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
      From: [3]boyd411 at gmail.com
      To: [4]julian_kift at hotmail.com
      CC: [5]detomaso at poca.com
      I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or trans
   axle
      installed.Boyd
      On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
      <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
      Boyd,
      Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go to
      somewhere like Empire ([7]empirerac.com) and rent an enclosed auto
      transporter for ~ $100/day. There's got to be a ton of options in
   the
      big city!
      Julian
      Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
      From: [8]boyd411 at gmail.com
      To: [9]detomaso at poca.com
      Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
      Hi all,
      I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to Ron
      McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomasoA  pantera is ,so the
   want
      all
      sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented
   their
      trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me
   the
      length, width, height, wheel baseA  and wheel width and height.
   Thanks.
      Boyd
      _______________________________________________
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      use the links above. A A  A
      A A  A
      A A  Yes, but rocks and flying debris don't care if you have an
   enginw
      &
      A A  transaxle installed.
      A A  Wait, I thought this was to get it running properly?
        A A A A
        __________________________________________________________________
        A A  Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:22 -0400
        A A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
        A A  From: [12]boyd411 at gmail.com
        A A  To: [13]julian_kift at hotmail.com
        A A  CC: [14]detomaso at poca.com
        A A  I only have to travel 200 miles and the car has no engine or
        trans axle
        A A  installed.
        A A  Boyd
        A A  On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Julian Kift
        A A  <[1][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
        A A  Boyd,
        A A  Why mess around with a U-Haul open trailer amd the risk, go
   to
        A A  somewhere like Empire ([2][16]empirerac.com) and rent an
        enclosed auto
        A A  transporter for ~ $100/day. There's got to be a ton of
   options
        in the
        A A  big city!
        A A  Julian
        A A  Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:48:34 -0400
        A A  From: [3][17]boyd411 at gmail.com
        A A  To: [4][18]detomaso at poca.com
        A A  Subject: [DeTomaso] pantera dimensions
        Hi all,
        I am trying to rent a u-haul trailer to tow the Pantera down to
   Ron
        McCall's. U- Haul has no idea what a detomasoA  pantera is ,so the
        want all
        sorts of dimensions. This is in spite of the fact that I rented
        their
        trailer before to tow my car from Boston to NY. Can anyone tell me
        the
        length, width, height, wheel baseA  and wheel width and height.
        Thanks.
        Boyd
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   Forum
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