[DeTomaso] New Shocks

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Wed Apr 8 19:20:57 EDT 2015


For what its worth, Julian has been giving testimony about the QA1 shocks for years.  If they weren't good, he'd know by now.  They've been second on my list of choices for a few years.

Asa Jay

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Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

>Carrera was purchased by QA1 in 2004, the QA1's are great shocks for the money IMO, I have them on both Pantera's and the GT40. Single adjustable readily available from Summit Racing at $160 ea. or pay $240 and get the double adjustable. Springs are $35-40, so you can afford to try a couple different spring rates before settling on what you like.
> 
>Julian
> 
>Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:01:25 -0400
>To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net; detomaso at poca.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Shocks
>From: detomaso at poca.com
>
> 
>In a message dated 4/8/15 10:46:06 AM, cuvee at sbcglobal.net writes:
> 
> 
>> Going to get new Shocks for my 73. Street use only no Track. Any 
>> Recommendations for Spring Rates? Still running the stock shocks, would like a 
>> little stiffer springs, But don't want to rattle my teeth.
>> 
> 
>>>>Most aftermarket shock setups come with 450 front, 550 rear spring 
>rates, which are a bit stiffer than stock, but far from abusive.   I actually 
>specified 450/650 for my car, and it's been okay, although admittedly I'm 
>running 305/50-15 tires which help soak up the initial inputs to the suspension.  
> I just got done driving my Pantera down Hwy 1 to Hearst Castle and back 
>last weekend, and the car is a delight on the road, while still being firm and 
>properly damped.
> 
>I originally had Carrera shocks, which I got from Larry Stock.   I found 
>the car was far too soft, especially at the rear, and in fact it would bounce 
>all over the road on an especially bumpy road.   I sold those shocks (to a 
>guy who was looking for a 'cush' ride) and bought Konis from Pantera East.
> 
>Only after I sold them did I learn that Larry chooses to fit his shocks 
>with springs that are far too soft--perhaps even softer than stock!?   Those 
>same shocks (Carrera) from Wilkinson come with the desired 450/550 rates, and 
>so-equipped, they seem to work great.   I've since driven a car so-equipped 
>and it felt terrific.   I wish I had known that mine were fitted with the 
>incorrect springs; I would have just switched springs instead of buying new 
>shocks.
> 
>That said, I'm extremely happy with the Konis, and arguably they are 
>probably a superior product to the Carreras.   Both Pantera East and Pantera 
>Performance Center sell exactly the same setup, normally with 450/550 spring 
>rates; the PE price is normally a bit lower.   All other things being equal, I'd 
>suggest that you go that route.
> 
>I would not put Aldan shocks (as sold by Hall, Byars, and (I think?) PI 
>Motorsports) on a shopping cart.   Their quality is simply abysmal, and they 
>are known for chronic leaking problems, sometimes even failing while still in 
>the shipping box!!!   Don't waste your time with those, even if they are a 
>little bit cheaper.   
> 
>Mike
>
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>   Carrera was purchased by QA1 in 2004, the QA1's are great shocks for
>   the money IMO, I have them on both Pantera's and the GT40. Single
>   adjustable readily available from Summit Racing at $160 ea. or pay $240
>   and get the double adjustable. Springs are $35-40, so you can afford to
>   try a couple different spring rates before settling on what you like.
>
>   Julian
>
>   Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:01:25 -0400
>   To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net; detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Shocks
>   From: detomaso at poca.com
>
>In a message dated 4/8/15 10:46:06 AM, cuvee at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>
>> Going to get new Shocks for my 73. Street use only no Track. Any
>> Recommendations for Spring Rates? Still running the stock shocks, would like a
>
>> little stiffer springs, But don't want to rattle my teeth.
>>
>
>>>>Most aftermarket shock setups come with 450 front, 550 rear spring
>rates, which are a bit stiffer than stock, but far from abusive.   I actually
>specified 450/650 for my car, and it's been okay, although admittedly I'm
>running 305/50-15 tires which help soak up the initial inputs to the suspension.
>
> I just got done driving my Pantera down Hwy 1 to Hearst Castle and back
>last weekend, and the car is a delight on the road, while still being firm and
>properly damped.
>
>I originally had Carrera shocks, which I got from Larry Stock.   I found
>the car was far too soft, especially at the rear, and in fact it would bounce
>all over the road on an especially bumpy road.   I sold those shocks (to a
>guy who was looking for a 'cush' ride) and bought Konis from Pantera East.
>
>Only after I sold them did I learn that Larry chooses to fit his shocks
>with springs that are far too soft--perhaps even softer than stock!?   Those
>same shocks (Carrera) from Wilkinson come with the desired 450/550 rates, and
>so-equipped, they seem to work great.   I've since driven a car so-equipped
>and it felt terrific.   I wish I had known that mine were fitted with the
>incorrect springs; I would have just switched springs instead of buying new
>shocks.
>
>That said, I'm extremely happy with the Konis, and arguably they are
>probably a superior product to the Carreras.   Both Pantera East and Pantera
>Performance Center sell exactly the same setup, normally with 450/550 spring
>rates; the PE price is normally a bit lower.   All other things being equal, I'd
>
>suggest that you go that route.
>
>I would not put Aldan shocks (as sold by Hall, Byars, and (I think?) PI
>Motorsports) on a shopping cart.   Their quality is simply abysmal, and they
>are known for chronic leaking problems, sometimes even failing while still in
>the shipping box!!!   Don't waste your time with those, even if they are a
>little bit cheaper.
>
>Mike
>
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   For what its worth, Julian has been giving testimony about the QA1
   shocks for years.  If they weren't good, he'd know by now.  They've
   been second on my list of choices for a few years.
   Asa Jay
   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks

   Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   Carrera was purchased by QA1 in 2004, the QA1's are great shocks for
   the money IMO, I have them on both Pantera's and the GT40. Single
   adjustable readily available from Summit Racing at $160 ea. or pay $240
   and get the double adjustable. Springs are $35-40, so you can afford to
   try a couple different spring rates before settling on what you like.
   Julian
   Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:01:25 -0400
   To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net; detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Shocks
   From: detomaso at poca.com
   In a message dated 4/8/15 10:46:06 AM, cuvee at sbcglobal.net writes:
   > Going to get new Shocks for my 73. Street use only no Track. Any
   > Recommendations for Spring Rates? Still running the stock shocks,
   would like a
   > little stiffer springs, But don't want to rattle my teeth.
   >
   >>>Most aftermarket shock setups come with 450 front, 550 rear spring
   rates, which are a bit stiffer than stock, but far from abusive.   I
   actually
   specified 450/650 for my car, and it's been okay, although admittedly
   I'm
   running 305/50-15 tires which help soak up the initial inputs to the
   suspension.
   I just got done driving my Pantera down Hwy 1 to Hearst Castle and back
   last weekend, and the car is a delight on the road, while still being
   firm and
   properly damped.
   I originally had Carrera shocks, which I got from Larry Stock.   I
   found
   the car was far too soft, especially at the rear, and in fact it would
   bounce
   all over the road on an especially bumpy road.   I sold those shocks
   (to a
   guy who was looking for a 'cush' ride) and bought Konis from Pantera
   East.
   Only after I sold them did I learn that Larry chooses to fit his shocks
   with springs that are far too soft--perhaps even softer than stock!?
   Those
   same shocks (Carrera) from Wilkinson come with the desired 450/550
   rates, and
   so-equipped, they seem to work great.   I've since driven a car
   so-equipped
   and it felt terrific.   I wish I had known that mine were fitted with
   the
   incorrect springs; I would have just switched springs instead of buying
   new
   shocks.
   That said, I'm extremely happy with the Konis, and arguably they are
   probably a superior product to the Carreras.   Both Pantera East and
   Pantera
   Performance Center sell exactly the same setup, normally with 450/550
   spring
   rates; the PE price is normally a bit lower.   All other things being
   equal, I'd
   suggest that you go that route.
   I would not put Aldan shocks (as sold by Hall, Byars, and (I think?) PI
   Motorsports) on a shopping cart.   Their quality is simply abysmal, and
   they
   are known for chronic leaking problems, sometimes even failing while
   still in
   the shipping box!!!   Don't waste your time with those, even if they
   are a
   little bit cheaper.
   Mike
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      Carrera was purchased by QA1 in 2004, the QA1's are great shocks for
      the money IMO, I have them on both Pantera's and the GT40. Single
      adjustable readily available from Summit Racing at $160 ea. or pay
   $240
      and get the double adjustable. Springs are $35-40, so you can afford
   to
      try a couple different spring rates before settling on what you
   like.
      Julian
      Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:01:25 -0400
      To: cuvee at sbcglobal.net; detomaso at poca.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Shocks
      From: detomaso at poca.com
   In a message dated 4/8/15 10:46:06 AM, cuvee at sbcglobal.net writes:
   > Going to get new Shocks for my 73. Street use only no Track. Any
   > Recommendations for Spring Rates? Still running the stock shocks,
   would like a
   > little stiffer springs, But don't want to rattle my teeth.
   >
   >>>Most aftermarket shock setups come with 450 front, 550 rear spring
   rates, which are a bit stiffer than stock, but far from abusive.   I
   actually
   specified 450/650 for my car, and it's been okay, although admittedly
   I'm
   running 305/50-15 tires which help soak up the initial inputs to the
   suspension.
   I just got done driving my Pantera down Hwy 1 to Hearst Castle and back
   last weekend, and the car is a delight on the road, while still being
   firm and
   properly damped.
   I originally had Carrera shocks, which I got from Larry Stock.   I
   found
   the car was far too soft, especially at the rear, and in fact it would
   bounce
   all over the road on an especially bumpy road.   I sold those shocks
   (to a
   guy who was looking for a 'cush' ride) and bought Konis from Pantera
   East.
   Only after I sold them did I learn that Larry chooses to fit his shocks
   with springs that are far too soft--perhaps even softer than stock!?
   Those
   same shocks (Carrera) from Wilkinson come with the desired 450/550
   rates, and
   so-equipped, they seem to work great.   I've since driven a car
   so-equipped
   and it felt terrific.   I wish I had known that mine were fitted with
   the
   incorrect springs; I would have just switched springs instead of buying
   new
   shocks.
   That said, I'm extremely happy with the Konis, and arguably they are
   probably a superior product to the Carreras.   Both Pantera East and
   Pantera
   Performance Center sell exactly the same setup, normally with 450/550
   spring
   rates; the PE price is normally a bit lower.   All other things being
   equal, I'd
   suggest that you go that route.
   I would not put Aldan shocks (as sold by Hall, Byars, and (I think?) PI
   Motorsports) on a shopping cart.   Their quality is simply abysmal, and
   they
   are known for chronic leaking problems, sometimes even failing while
   still in
   the shipping box!!!   Don't waste your time with those, even if they
   are a
   little bit cheaper.
   Mike
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