[DeTomaso] Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug

Daniel C Jones daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 29 16:16:39 EDT 2014 

Don't use the factory manual method unless you have a cam with minimal
overlap.  You have been warned.  Dan

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No, you didn't miss anything.
>
> The stock 351C has hydraulic lifters and does not need adjustment.
>
> My engine is not stock, and has solid lifters. Solid lifters require blood
> sacrifice once a year (or more, depending on your mileage)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> audionut at hushmail.com
> Sent: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 21:40
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're
> the bug
>
> Whoa. Whoa wait a minute here.....
> We're supposed to be adjusting valve lash on our cars with stock
> 351C's?
>  Sent using Hushmail
> On 28 September, 2014 at 12:27 PM, "Will Kooiman"  wrote:Been there.
> Done that.  It wasn't funny for me either.  ;-)
>
> I normally turn the engine over by the balancer bolt.
>
> The EOIC method works faster if you do them by the firing order.  Do
> all
> of the exhausts, and then all of the intakes.
> --
> Will
> On 9/28/14 1:01 PM, "Charles McCall"  wrote:
>
> >   Today, I was the bug and the Pantera was the windshield....
> >
> >
> >   I had the entire afternoon reserved for adjusting valve lash and
> was
> >   debating between the lazy, 3-step method from the Monroe book, or
> the
> >   EOIC method, which is what I should really do. But it is a pain
> hitting
> >   the started 16 times to leave the valve where you need it -
> hitting the
> >   starter 3 times is much less than 16...
> >
> >
> >   But I never got that far. It took exactly 4 minutes to remove 7 of
> the
> >   8 valve cover bolts. I have just now, 4 hours later, removed bolt
> >   number 8.
> >
> >
> >   This bolt is right below the dipstick, and I just couldn't get
> anything
> >   on it to loosen it. The dipstick was just above the bolt head,
> >   preventing me from putting any kind of tool on it. I pulled the
> >   interior access cover so that at least I could look at the
> offending
> >   bolt as it laughed at me and my efforts. Not only couldn't I get a
> >   socket on it, but the ultra-thin-wall socket that came close to
> >   fitting, fell off and is now somewhere in the engine bay as it
> didn't
> >   fall below the car. I'll buy a magnet and go fishing tomorrow...
> >
> >
> >   After 4 hours to remove one bolt I decided to call it a day as I
> have
> >   other tasks I need to do. So I have a whole week to decide whether
> to
> >   bump the engine three times or 16 times...
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   Don't use the factory manual method unless you have a cam with minimal
   overlap.A  You have been warned.A  Dan

   On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Charles McCall
   <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:

     No, you didn't miss anything.
     The stock 351C has hydraulic lifters and does not need adjustment.
     My engine is not stock, and has solid lifters. Solid lifters require
     blood sacrifice once a year (or more, depending on your mileage)
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
     [3]audionut at hushmail.com
     Sent: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2014 21:40
     To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes
     you're the bug
     Whoa. Whoa wait a minute here.....
     We're supposed to be adjusting valve lash on our cars with stock
     351C's?
     A Sent using Hushmail
     On 28 September, 2014 at 12:27 PM, "Will Kooiman"A  wrote:Been
     there.
     Done that.A  It wasn't funny for me either.A  ;-)
     I normally turn the engine over by the balancer bolt.
     The EOIC method works faster if you do them by the firing order.A
     Do
     all
     of the exhausts, and then all of the intakes.
     --
     Will

   On 9/28/14 1:01 PM, "Charles McCall"A  wrote:
   >A  A Today, I was the bug and the Pantera was the windshield....
   >
   >
   >A  A I had the entire afternoon reserved for adjusting valve lash and
   was
   >A  A debating between the lazy, 3-step method from the Monroe book, or
   the
   >A  A EOIC method, which is what I should really do. But it is a pain
   hitting
   >A  A the started 16 times to leave the valve where you need it -
   hitting the
   >A  A starter 3 times is much less than 16...
   >
   >
   >A  A But I never got that far. It took exactly 4 minutes to remove 7
   of
   the
   >A  A 8 valve cover bolts. I have just now, 4 hours later, removed bolt
   >A  A number 8.
   >
   >
   >A  A This bolt is right below the dipstick, and I just couldn't get
   anything
   >A  A on it to loosen it. The dipstick was just above the bolt head,
   >A  A preventing me from putting any kind of tool on it. I pulled the
   >A  A interior access cover so that at least I could look at the
   offending
   >A  A bolt as it laughed at me and my efforts. Not only couldn't I get
   a
   >A  A socket on it, but the ultra-thin-wall socket that came close to
   >A  A fitting, fell off and is now somewhere in the engine bay as it
   didn't
   >A  A fall below the car. I'll buy a magnet and go fishing tomorrow...
   >
   >
   >A  A After 4 hours to remove one bolt I decided to call it a day as I
   have
   >A  A other tasks I need to do. So I have a whole week to decide
   whether
   to
   >A  A bump the engine three times or 16 times...
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