[DeTomaso] ZF polish question.
michael at michaelshortt.com
michael at michaelshortt.com
Sat Sep 13 14:34:57 EDT 2014
Eagle One etching wheel cleaner.
Aluminum Jelly
Michael Shortt
Be careful with AN anodized connectors, both will strip off the red and
blue.
On Sep 13, 2014 1:48 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> So given that a polished aluminum surface is less efficient at
> transferring heat then an unpolished surface ( even if the difference
> is marginal) If one owns a Pantera and plans to use it for actual
> driving or in fact does use it for more then car shows and trailer
> queen status , what is the most effective way to make it "look good"
> without polishing it. (what cleaning method or cleaning products are
> the most effective?)
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
> <[1]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>
> Here is the easiest way to think about it.
> Have you seen a heatsink on a computer cpu?
> Or on the diodes of an alternator?
> Maybe on the back of your stereo?
> How about one of those finned transmission pans?
> The theory is the more surface area you have to dissipate heat, the
> more
> heat will dissipate.A So think of your porous surface transmission
> case
> in the same way.
> Polished, it is smooth as a baby's bottom and reduces the surface
> area
> to the smallest it can get.
> But unpolished, it has lots of tiny craters, ridges and peaks that
> increase the overall surface area that can dissipate heat.
> Now, as Chuck and his Pantera Research Institute contributing source
> point out, the difference in surface area is probably insignificant,
> although measurable.A If it's measurable, it's not a myth.
> You have to ask yourself, how fast do you want to go and for how
> long?
> AsaA Jay
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> [2]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> [3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> [4]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
> On 9/12/2014 6:43 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
> > Dear Tony and Michael,
> >
> >
> >A A A A A A A I, too, have heard that a porous cast iron block
> or alumunium
> > manifold or transmission case will transfer more heat than a polished
> one.
> > This conversation prompted me to ask an expert in the field.
> >
> >
> >A A A A A A A He is says that it is absolutely true that there
> is less heat
> > transfer with a polished surface than an unfinished cast surface, BUT
> the
> > effect is insignificant.A A It is tangible, but at extremely small
> levels.
> >
> >
> >A A A A A A A The take home lesson for lovers of bling is to
> polish away!
> > Remember what the ancient Greeks said, "All things in moderation
> including
> > engine bay bling."
> >
> >
> >A A A A A A A A A A A A A Scientifically yours,A Chuck
> Engles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Tony
> > DiGiovanna
> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 7:15 PM
> > To: [6]michael at michaelshortt.com; 'Boyd Casey'
> > Cc: [7]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polish question.
> >
> > Running hotter sounds like an urban legend thing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > [9]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:31 PM
> > To: Boyd Casey
> > Cc: [10]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polish question.
> >
> > I have read that the polish process makes the ZF run hotter because
> the
> > pores of the cases are closed off, mine is simplimy super duper
> cleaned by
> > using Eagle One wheel cleaner that etches, not ordinary wheel
> cleaner,
> > followed by Aluminum jelly. If I were going to jazz it up, i love the
> look
> > of the black wrinkle finkle with the tops of the ribs in raw silver.
> >
> > Michael Shortt
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Boyd Casey <[11]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>A A I have my motor out of the car and the ZF separated from the
> engine. Is
> >>A A it possible to polish the ZF without doing harm to the trans
> axle if
> >>A A you polish it while it is still assembled? What other finish or
> clean
> >>A A up techniques can anyone recommend ?
> >>A A Thanks,
> >>A A Boyd
> >>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
> 2. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
> 3. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
> 4. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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Eagle One etching wheel cleaner.
Aluminum Jelly
Michael Shortt
Be careful with AN anodized connectors, both will strip off the red and
blue.
On Sep 13, 2014 1:48 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
A A So given that a polished aluminum surface is less efficient at
A A transferring heat then an unpolished surface ( even if the
difference
A A is marginal) If one owns a Pantera and plans to use it for
actual
A A driving or in fact does use it for more then car shows and
trailer
A A queen status , what is the most effective way to make it "look
good"
A A without polishing it. (what cleaning method or cleaning
products are
A A the most effective?)
A A On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
A A <[1][2]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
A A A Here is the easiest way to think about it.
A A A Have you seen a heatsink on a computer cpu?
A A A Or on the diodes of an alternator?
A A A Maybe on the back of your stereo?
A A A How about one of those finned transmission pans?
A A A The theory is the more surface area you have to dissipate
heat, the
A A A more
A A A heat will dissipate.AA So think of your porous surface
transmission
A A A case
A A A in the same way.
A A A Polished, it is smooth as a baby's bottom and reduces the
surface
A A A area
A A A to the smallest it can get.
A A A But unpolished, it has lots of tiny craters, ridges and
peaks that
A A A increase the overall surface area that can dissipate heat.
A A A Now, as Chuck and his Pantera Research Institute
contributing source
A A A point out, the difference in surface area is probably
insignificant,
A A A although measurable.AA If it's measurable, it's not a myth.
A A A You have to ask yourself, how fast do you want to go and for
how
A A A long?
A A A AsaAA Jay
A A A Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
A A A & Shelley Marie
A A A Spokane, WA
A A A ******************************
A A A [2][3]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
A A A [3][4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
A A A [4][5]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
A A On 9/12/2014 6:43 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
A A > Dear Tony and Michael,
A A >
A A >
A A >AA AA AA AA AA AA AA I, too, have heard that a porous
cast iron block
A A or alumunium
A A > manifold or transmission case will transfer more heat than a
polished
A A one.
A A > This conversation prompted me to ask an expert in the field.
A A >
A A >
A A >AA AA AA AA AA AA AA He is says that it is absolutely
true that there
A A is less heat
A A > transfer with a polished surface than an unfinished cast
surface, BUT
A A the
A A > effect is insignificant.AA A It is tangible, but at
extremely small
A A levels.
A A >
A A >
A A >AA AA AA AA AA AA A The take home lesson for lovers of
bling is to
A A polish away!
A A > Remember what the ancient Greeks said, "All things in
moderation
A A including
A A > engine bay bling."
A A >
A A >
A A >AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA A
Scientifically yours,AA Chuck
A A Engles
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A > -----Original Message-----
A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5][6]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
A A Tony
A A > DiGiovanna
A A > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 7:15 PM
A A > To: [6][7]michael at michaelshortt.com; 'Boyd Casey'
A A > Cc: [7][8]detomaso at poca.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polish question.
A A >
A A > Running hotter sounds like an urban legend thing.
A A >
A A > -----Original Message-----
A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8][9]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
A A > [9][10]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:31 PM
A A > To: Boyd Casey
A A > Cc: [10][11]detomaso at poca.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ZF polish question.
A A >
A A > I have read that the polish process makes the ZF run hotter
because
A A the
A A > pores of the cases are closed off, mine is simplimy super
duper
A A cleaned by
A A > using Eagle One wheel cleaner that etches, not ordinary wheel
A A cleaner,
A A > followed by Aluminum jelly. If I were going to jazz it up, i
love the
A A look
A A > of the black wrinkle finkle with the tops of the ribs in raw
silver.
A A >
A A > Michael Shortt
A A >
A A > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Boyd Casey
<[11][12]boyd411 at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >>AA AA I have my motor out of the car and the ZF separated
from the
A A engine. Is
A A >>AA AA it possible to polish the ZF without doing harm to
the trans
A A axle if
A A >>AA AA you polish it while it is still assembled? What other
finish or
A A clean
A A >>AA AA up techniques can anyone recommend ?
A A >>AA AA Thanks,
A A >>AA AA Boyd
A A >>
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