[DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Fri Sep 5 17:04:03 EDT 2014 

I think Jack was saying that you don't need to roll the rear fenders to
fit huge tires.  And not that he hasn't seen huge tires on the rear.

I have 335-35-17's on mine.  They are too big, cosmetically.  They fit
without any issues.

The front is another story.

I rolled the fenders on my 68 Mustang in high school using a wood baseball
bat.  It worked very well.  It helps to have someone sit on the car to
load the wheel.  The bat gets chewed up a bit.

--
Will





On 9/5/14 4:41 PM, "Dave" <dave at damardirect.com> wrote:

>   Rob,
>
>   Funny you said that. I remember seeing old assembly production line
>   pictures of Blazers or Suburbans where line workers used baseball bats
>   to check front bumper alignment. Might have been in the 70s.
>
>   IndyDave
>
>
>   From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
>   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 4:31 PM
>   To: Himes, Terry (397C)
>   Cc: Dave; shawkins777 at comcast.net; forum, Pantera
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>
>
>   I hope nobody thinks that taking a baseball bat to a Pantera is
>   generally a good idea.  :)
>
>   Rob
>
>
>   On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>   <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>      I also did it with a baseball bat with the help of Dave Briggs.
>   Worked
>      great!! Runnin 17" rims with Michelins.
>      Also got new shocks and springs.  Ride feels better than new!!
>   Sweet.
>      "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>        exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>        to contact us!"
>      Terry W. Himes  [cid:5F91552D-7F15-4B9E-A98C-AAF8B0C30AEB]
>      JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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>      From: Dave <[2][3]dave at damardirect.com>
>      Date: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:36 PM
>      To: "[3][4]shawkins777 at comcast.net" <[4][5]shawkins777 at comcast.net>
>      Cc: "forum, Pantera" <[5][6]detomaso at poca.com>
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>      2nd the baseball bat (wood)
>      IndyDave
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: [6][7]shawkins777 at comcast.net
>   [[7]mailto:[8]shawkins777 at comcast.net]
>      Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:29 AM
>      Cc: forum, Pantera
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>      A baseball bat works pretty good.
>      Steve
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: "forum, Pantera" <[8][9]detomaso at poca.com>
>      To: "forum, Pantera" <[9][10]detomaso at poca.com>
>      Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 6:19:27 AM
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>      Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from
>      [10][11]http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html
>   for
>      only $129. Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom
>      stick. For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after
>   the
>      second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500
>   to
>      fix and repaint. The fender rolling was included in the fix so I
>   cant
>      tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted
>      $561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were
>      already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to
>      fix one fender. Although the price was high, they look great and
>   give
>      me the clearance so it should not happen again.
>      V. Michael Arias
>      [11][12]vmichaelarias at aol.com
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[12][13]detomaso at poca.com>
>      To: mbefthomas <[13][14]mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826
>      <[14][15]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso
>   <[15][16]detomaso at poca.com>
>      Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>      FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
>      rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
>      someplace, but...
>      JDeRyke
>      Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
>      Mike
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Mike Thomas <[16][17]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>      To: 'Mark Charlton' <[17][18]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso
>   mail list'
>      <[18][19]detomaso at poca.com>
>      Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>      Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
>      Mike
>      -----Original Message-----
>
>      From: Mark Charlton [[1][19]mailto:[20]pantera01826 at rogers.com]
>      Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
>      To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
>      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>      When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very
>      simple
>      but effective method.
>      I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and
>      kept
>      re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
>      gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer
>      with a
>      few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the
>   paint).
>      Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times
>   was
>      all
>      that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked
>   paint,
>      no
>      body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no
>      special
>      tools.
>      I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be
>      rolled
>      so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than
>      stock
>      from tires.
>      Mark Charlton
>
>      [2][20][21]pantera01826 at rogers.com
>      On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry
>   <[3][21][22]davel at emspace.com>
>      wrote:
>      Drop $209 on one of these?
>      [4][22][23]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
>      Rent one from Eastwood $40?
>
>   [5][23][24]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rol
>   ling
>      -Tool-
>
>
>   Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
>      s&hash=item25943b6720
>      dave
>      On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>      I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I
>   can
>      drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
>      rear. I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the
>      rear fender if I don't roll it. I recall a thread many years ago on
>      various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
>      I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working
>   back
>      and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
>      One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
>      tire and fender and use the tire as leverage. I won't be dropping it
>      enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
>      I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust
>   them
>      as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift
>   the
>      car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I
>   still
>      have clearance.
>      Other ideas?
>      Thanks
>      Mike Thomas
>      VP, POCA
>      VP, Panteras Northwest
>      Yellow '74 #6328
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