[DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

Fri Sep 5 16:19:11 EDT 2014

You have to just love it when a rocket scientist takes a baseball bat to his Pantera.  

V. Michael Arias
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 4:13 PM
To: Dave; shawkins777 at comcast.net
Cc: forum, Pantera
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

I also did it with a baseball bat with the help of Dave Briggs.  Worked great!! Runnin 17" rims with Michelins.
Also got new shocks and springs.  Ride feels better than new!!   Sweet.

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From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com<mailto:dave at damardirect.com>>
Date: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:36 PM
To: "shawkins777 at comcast.net<mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net>" <shawkins777 at comcast.net<mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net>>
Cc: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

2nd the baseball bat (wood)
IndyDave

-----Original Message-----
From: shawkins777 at comcast.net<mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net> [mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:29 AM
Cc: forum, Pantera
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

A baseball bat works pretty good.

Steve

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From: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
To: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 6:19:27 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only $129. Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick. For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to fix and repaint. The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to fix one fender. Although the price was high, they look great and give me the clearance so it should not happen again.

V. Michael Arias
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>; pantera01826 <pantera01826 at rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there someplace, but...
JDeRyke

Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike

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From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>
To: 'Mark Charlton' <pantera01826 at rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>>; 'detomaso mail list'
<detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Charlton [[1]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very simple but effective method.

I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and kept re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer with a few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was all that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint, no body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no special tools.

I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be rolled so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than stock from tires.

Mark Charlton
[2]pantera01826 at rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>

On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3]davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>> wrote:

Drop $209 on one of these?
[4]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
Rent one from Eastwood $40?
[5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
s&hash=item25943b6720
dave
On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the rear. I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the rear fender if I don't roll it. I recall a thread many years ago on various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the tire and fender and use the tire as leverage. I won't be dropping it enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still have clearance.
Other ideas?
Thanks
Mike Thomas
VP, POCA
VP, Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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4. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
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