[DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Fri Sep 5 16:13:15 EDT 2014
I also did it with a baseball bat with the help of Dave Briggs. Worked great!! Runnin 17" rims with Michelins.
Also got new shocks and springs. Ride feels better than new!! Sweet.
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exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
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From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com<mailto:dave at damardirect.com>>
Date: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:36 PM
To: "shawkins777 at comcast.net<mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net>" <shawkins777 at comcast.net<mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net>>
Cc: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
2nd the baseball bat (wood)
IndyDave
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Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:29 AM
Cc: forum, Pantera
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
A baseball bat works pretty good.
Steve
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To: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 6:19:27 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only $129. Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick. For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to fix and repaint. The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to fix one fender. Although the price was high, they look great and give me the clearance so it should not happen again.
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To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>; pantera01826 <pantera01826 at rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
someplace, but...
JDeRyke
Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>
To: 'Mark Charlton' <pantera01826 at rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>>; 'detomaso mail list'
<detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Charlton [[1]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very simple
but effective method.
I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and kept
re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer with a
few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was all
that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint, no
body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no special
tools.
I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be rolled
so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than stock
from tires.
Mark Charlton
[2]pantera01826 at rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com>
On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3]davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>> wrote:
Drop $209 on one of these?
[4]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
Rent one from Eastwood $40?
[5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
s&hash=item25943b6720
dave
On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can
drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
rear. I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the
rear fender if I don't roll it. I recall a thread many years ago on
various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back
and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
tire and fender and use the tire as leverage. I won't be dropping it
enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them
as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the
car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still
have clearance.
Other ideas?
Thanks
Mike Thomas
VP, POCA
VP, Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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References
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2. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
3. mailto:davel at emspace.com
4. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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I also did it with a baseball bat with the help of Dave Briggs. Worked
great!! Runnin 17" rims with Michelins.
Also got new shocks and springs. Ride feels better than new!! Sweet.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes [cid:5F91552D-7F15-4B9E-A98C-AAF8B0C30AEB]
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: Dave <[2]dave at damardirect.com>
Date: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:36 PM
To: "[3]shawkins777 at comcast.net" <[4]shawkins777 at comcast.net>
Cc: "forum, Pantera" <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
2nd the baseball bat (wood)
IndyDave
-----Original Message-----
From: [6]shawkins777 at comcast.net [[7]mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:29 AM
Cc: forum, Pantera
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
A baseball bat works pretty good.
Steve
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From: "forum, Pantera" <[8]detomaso at poca.com>
To: "forum, Pantera" <[9]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 6:19:27 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from
[10]http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for
only $129. Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom
stick. For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the
second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to
fix and repaint. The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant
tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted
$561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were
already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to
fix one fender. Although the price was high, they look great and give
me the clearance so it should not happen again.
V. Michael Arias
[11]vmichaelarias at aol.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[12]detomaso at poca.com>
To: mbefthomas <[13]mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826
<[14]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <[15]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
someplace, but...
JDeRyke
Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike
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From: Mike Thomas <[16]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To: 'Mark Charlton' <[17]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso mail list'
<[18]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Charlton [[1][19]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very
simple
but effective method.
I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and
kept
re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer
with a
few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was
all
that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint,
no
body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no
special
tools.
I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be
rolled
so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than
stock
from tires.
Mark Charlton
[2][20]pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3][21]davel at emspace.com>
wrote:
Drop $209 on one of these?
[4][22]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
Rent one from Eastwood $40?
[5][23]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling
-Tool-
Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
s&hash=item25943b6720
dave
On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can
drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
rear. I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the
rear fender if I don't roll it. I recall a thread many years ago on
various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back
and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
tire and fender and use the tire as leverage. I won't be dropping it
enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them
as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the
car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still
have clearance.
Other ideas?
Thanks
Mike Thomas
VP, POCA
VP, Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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2. [31]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
3. [32]mailto:davel at emspace.com
4. [33]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
5.
[34]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-To
ol-
6. [35]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
7. [36]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
8. [37]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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7. mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net
8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
10. http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html
11. mailto:vmichaelarias at aol.com
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14. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
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21. mailto:davel at emspace.com
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23. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
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