[DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 5 08:39:09 EDT 2014
When I did mine I first tried a baseball bat (I don't think a broom handle
is strong enough and it is too narrow) your supposed to "roll" the Bat
around the circumference of the tire and the fender lip. I eventually
purchased the tool pictured in the post above (the blue one with the orange
rollers) It worked well and it made it easy to apply even pressure along
the fender lips and to add incremental pressure by turning the adjusting
screw. When I bought my tool it was almost $300 so the prices I have seen
listed in the other posts are a lot lower now. You also need a heat gun to
heat the paint as mentioned.There were and I suppose still are several
places to rent the tool online. I would let you use mine but I'm in NY and
by the time you pay shipping both ways you could probably buy one.
Boyd
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:19 AM, V. Michael Arias via DeTomaso <
detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from
> [1]http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only
> $129. Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick.
> For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the second
> time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to fix and
> repaint. The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant tell you
> how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561 per
> wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were already
> charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to fix one
> fender. Although the price was high, they look great and give me the
> clearance so it should not happen again.
>
>
>
>
>
> V. Michael Arias
> vmichaelarias at aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826
> <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
> FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
> rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
> someplace, but...
> JDeRyke
>
> Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Thomas <[2]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: 'Mark Charlton' <[3]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso mail list'
> <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
> Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Charlton [[1][5]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
> To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
>
> When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very simple
> but effective method.
>
> I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and kept
> re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
> gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer with a
> few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
> Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was all
> that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint, no
> body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no special
> tools.
>
> I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be rolled
> so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than stock
> from tires.
>
> Mark Charlton
> [2][6]pantera01826 at rogers.com
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3][7]davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>
> > Drop $209 on one of these?
> > [4][8]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
> >
> > Rent one from Eastwood $40?
> > [5][9]
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
> > Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
> > s&hash=item25943b6720
> >
> > dave
> >
> > On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
> >> I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can
> >> drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
> >> rear. I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the
> >> rear fender if I don't roll it. I recall a thread many years ago on
> >> various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
> >> I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back
> >> and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
> >>
> >> One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
> >> tire and fender and use the tire as leverage. I won't be dropping it
> >> enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
> >> I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them
> >> as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the
> >> car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still
> have clearance.
> >>
> >> Other ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Mike Thomas
> >> VP, POCA
> >> VP, Panteras Northwest
> >> Yellow '74 #6328
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> 1. [16]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
> 2. [17]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
> 3. [18]mailto:davel at emspace.com
> 4. [19]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
> 5. [20]
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
> 6. [21]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 7. [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 8. [23]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> References
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> 1. http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html
> 2. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
> 3. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
> 6. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
> 7. mailto:davel at emspace.com
> 8. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
> 9.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
> 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 16. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
> 17. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
> 18. mailto:davel at emspace.com?
> 19. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
> 20.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
> 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
> 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
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When I did mine I first tried a baseball bat (I don't think a broom
handle is strong enough and it is too narrow) your supposed to "roll"
the Bat around the circumference of the tire and the fender lip. I
eventually purchased the tool pictured in the post above (the blue one
with the orange rollers) It worked well and it made it easy to apply
even pressure along the fender lips and to add incremental pressure by
turning the adjusting screw. When I bought my tool it was almost $300
so the prices I have seen listed in the other posts are a lot lower
now. You also need a heat gun to heat the paint as mentioned.There were
and I suppose still are several places to rent the tool online. I would
let you use mine but I'm in NY and by the time you pay shipping both
ways you could probably buy one.
Boyd
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:19 AM, V. Michael Arias via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from
A
A [1][2]http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html
for only
A A $129.A Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or
broom stick.
A A For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after
the second
A A time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to
fix and
A A repaint.A The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant
tell you
A A how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561
per
A A wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were
already
A A charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to
fix one
A A fender.A Although the price was high, they look great and give
me the
A A clearance so it should not happen again.
A A V. Michael Arias
A A [3]vmichaelarias at aol.com
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
A A To: mbefthomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826
A A <[6]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
A A FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender
lips
A A rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
A A someplace, but...
A A JDeRyke
Thanks.A The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Mike Thomas <[2][8]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
A A To: 'Mark Charlton' <[3][9]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso
mail list'
A A <[4][10]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Thanks.A The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Charlton [[1][5]mailto:[11]pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very
simple
but effective method.
I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and
kept
re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer
with a
few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the
paint).
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times
was all
that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked
paint, no
body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no
special
tools.
I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be
rolled
so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than
stock
from tires.
Mark Charlton
[2][6][12]pantera01826 at rogers.com
On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry
<[3][7][13]davel at emspace.com> wrote:
> Drop $209 on one of these?
> [4][8][14]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
>
> Rent one from Eastwood $40?
>
[5][9][15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-R
olling-Tool-
>
Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
> s&hash=item25943b6720
>
> dave
>
> On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>> I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I
can
>> drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
>> rear.A I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of
the
>> rear fender if I don't roll it.A I recall a thread many years ago
on
>> various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
>> I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working
back
>> and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
>>
>> One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
>> tire and fender and use the tire as leverage.A I won't be dropping
it
>> enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
>> I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust
them
>> as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift
the
>> car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I
still
have clearance.
>>
>> Other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike Thomas
>> VP, POCA
>> VP, Panteras Northwest
>> Yellow '74 #6328
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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A A 3. [18]mailto:[24]davel at emspace.com
A A 4. [19][25]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
A A 5.
[20][26]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rol
ling-Tool-
A A 6. [21]mailto:[27]DeTomaso at poca.com
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A A 4. mailto:[38]detomaso at poca.com
A A 5. mailto:[39]pantera01826 at rogers.com?
A A 6. mailto:[40]pantera01826 at rogers.com
A A 7. mailto:[41]davel at emspace.com
A A 8. [42]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
A A 9.
[43]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling
-Tool-
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A 18. mailto:[52]davel at emspace.com?
A 19. [53]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
A 20.
[54]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling
-Tool-
A 21. mailto:[55]DeTomaso at poca.com?
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13. mailto:davel at emspace.com
14. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
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22. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
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24. mailto:davel at emspace.com
25. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
26. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
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