[DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

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Fri Sep 5 08:29:17 EDT 2014 

A baseball bat works pretty good. 

Steve 

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From: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com> 
To: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 6:19:27 AM 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips 


Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only $129. Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick. For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to fix and repaint. The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to fix one fender. Although the price was high, they look great and give me the clearance so it should not happen again. 


V. Michael Arias 
vmichaelarias at aol.com 



-----Original Message----- 
From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> 
To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826 <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips 


FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips 
rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there 
someplace, but... 
JDeRyke 

Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears. 
Mike 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> 
To: 'Mark Charlton' <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso mail list' 
<detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips 
Thanks. The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears. 
Mike 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Charlton [[1]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM 
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips 

When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very simple 
but effective method. 

I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and kept 
re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then 
gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer with a 
few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint). 
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was all 
that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint, no 
body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no special 
tools. 

I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be rolled 
so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than stock 
from tires. 

Mark Charlton 
[2]pantera01826 at rogers.com 



On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3]davel at emspace.com> wrote: 

> Drop $209 on one of these? 
> [4]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52 
> 
> Rent one from Eastwood $40? 
> [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool- 
> Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service 
> s&hash=item25943b6720 
> 
> dave 
> 
> On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote: 
>> I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can 
>> drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the 
>> rear. I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the 
>> rear fender if I don't roll it. I recall a thread many years ago on 
>> various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender. 
>> I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back 
>> and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course. 
>> 
>> One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the 
>> tire and fender and use the tire as leverage. I won't be dropping it 
>> enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender. 
>> I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them 
>> as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the 
>> car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still 
have clearance. 
>> 
>> Other ideas? 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Mike Thomas 
>> VP, POCA 
>> VP, Panteras Northwest 
>> Yellow '74 #6328 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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2. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com 
3. mailto:davel at emspace.com 
4. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52 
5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool- 
6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com 
7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com 
8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com 
9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com 
10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com 
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   A baseball bat works pretty good.
   Steve
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: "forum, Pantera" <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 6:19:27 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
   Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from
   http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only
   $129.  Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick.
    For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the
   second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to
   fix and repaint.  The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant
   tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted
   $561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were
   already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to
   fix one fender.  Although the price was high, they look great and give
   me the clearance so it should not happen again.

   V. Michael Arias
   vmichaelarias at aol.com


   -----Original Message-----
   From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826
   <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
      FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
      rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
      someplace, but...
      JDeRyke
   Thanks.  The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
   Mike
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
      To: 'Mark Charlton' <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso mail list'
      <detomaso at poca.com>
      Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
   Thanks.  The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
   Mike
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mark Charlton [[1]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
   Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
   To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
   When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very
   simple
   but effective method.
   I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and
   kept
   re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
   gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer
   with a
   few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
   Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was
   all
   that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint,
   no
   body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no
   special
   tools.
   I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be
   rolled
   so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than
   stock
   from tires.
   Mark Charlton
   [2]pantera01826 at rogers.com
   On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3]davel at emspace.com> wrote:
   > Drop $209 on one of these?
   > [4]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
   >
   > Rent one from Eastwood $40?
   >
   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Too
   l-
   >
   Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
   > s&hash=item25943b6720
   >
   > dave
   >
   > On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
   >> I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I
   can
   >> drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
   >> rear.  I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of
   the
   >> rear fender if I don't roll it.  I recall a thread many years ago on
   >> various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
   >> I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working
   back
   >> and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
   >>
   >> One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
   >> tire and fender and use the tire as leverage.  I won't be dropping
   it
   >> enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
   >> I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust
   them
   >> as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift
   the
   >> car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I
   still
   have clearance.
   >>
   >> Other ideas?
   >>
   >> Thanks
   >> Mike Thomas
   >> VP, POCA
   >> VP, Panteras Northwest
   >> Yellow '74 #6328
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
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      1. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
      2. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
      3. mailto:davel at emspace.com
      4. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
      5.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
      6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
      7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
      8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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