[DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

Fri Sep 5 07:19:27 EDT 2014

Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only $129.  Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick.  For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the second time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to fix and repaint.  The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant tell you how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561 per wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were already charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to fix one fender.  Although the price was high, they look great and give me the clearance so it should not happen again.

V. Michael Arias
vmichaelarias at aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826 <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

   FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
   rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
   someplace, but...
   JDeRyke

Thanks.  The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   To: 'Mark Charlton' <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso mail list'
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Thanks.  The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Charlton [[1]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very simple
but effective method.

I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and kept
re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer with a
few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was all
that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint, no
body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no special
tools.

I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be rolled
so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than stock
from tires.

Mark Charlton
[2]pantera01826 at rogers.com

On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3]davel at emspace.com> wrote:

> Drop $209 on one of these?
> [4]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
>
> Rent one from Eastwood $40?
> [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
> Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
> s&hash=item25943b6720
>
> dave
>
> On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>> I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can
>> drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
>> rear.  I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the
>> rear fender if I don't roll it.  I recall a thread many years ago on
>> various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
>> I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back
>> and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
>>
>> One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
>> tire and fender and use the tire as leverage.  I won't be dropping it
>> enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
>> I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them
>> as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the
>> car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still
have clearance.
>>
>> Other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike Thomas
>> VP, POCA
>> VP, Panteras Northwest
>> Yellow '74 #6328
>>
>>
>>
>>
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References

   1. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
   2. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   3. mailto:davel at emspace.com
   4. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
   5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
   6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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   Or, you can buy a fender rolling tool from
   [1]http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html for only
   $129.  Seems that it might be better than a hammer and/or broom stick.
   For what its worth, I just had my front fenders rolled after the second
   time the right wheel pulled out my fender costing me $2,500 to fix and
   repaint.  The fender rolling was included in the fix so I cant tell you
   how much I was charged, but initially the body shop wanted $561 per
   wheel well and backed off once I pointed out that they were already
   charging an arm and leg and various other body parts just to fix one
   fender.  Although the price was high, they look great and give me the
   clearance so it should not happen again.

   V. Michael Arias
   vmichaelarias at aol.com

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   To: mbefthomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; pantera01826
   <pantera01826 at rogers.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 3:38 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
   FWIW- I've never seen a Pantera that NEEDED the rear fender lips
   rolled- even running giant tires. There might be one out there
   someplace, but...
   JDeRyke

Thanks.  The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mike Thomas <[2]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   To: 'Mark Charlton' <[3]pantera01826 at rogers.com>; 'detomaso mail list'
   <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Thu, Sep 4, 2014 8:56 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips
Thanks.  The fronts are already rolled, just not the rears.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Charlton [[1][5]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:22 PM
To: detomaso mail list; Mike Thomas
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rolling Rear Fender Lips

When I did mine I considered fancy tools and ended up using a very simple
but effective method.

I heated the fender lip paint so it was very warm to the touch (and kept
re-heating as I worked along it so the paint wouldn't crack). I then
gradually hammered the fender lips inwards using a small lead hammer with a
few layers of heavy soft rag covering the head (to protect the paint).
Gentle taps working along the fender back and forth several times was all
that was needed to roll the lips inward very nicely. No cracked paint, no
body damage and not risk of catching the tires on the lips. And no special
tools.

I assume you will also be lowering the fronts, and that area MUST be rolled
so the tires don't catch - especially if you're running wider than stock
from tires.

Mark Charlton
[2][6]pantera01826 at rogers.com

On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dave Londry <[3][7]davel at emspace.com> wrote:

> Drop $209 on one of these?
> [4][8]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
>
> Rent one from Eastwood $40?
> [5][9]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
> Eastwood-RENT-Return-Label-Include-/161400710944?pt=Automotive_Service
> s&hash=item25943b6720
>
> dave
>
> On 04/09/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Thomas wrote:
>> I've finally picked up a set of adjustable upper rear A arms so I can
>> drop the car a little further and keep the camber correct at the
>> rear.  I suspect I'll get some interference with the inner lip of the
>> rear fender if I don't roll it.  I recall a thread many years ago on
>> various ways to do this yourself without damaging the outer fender.
>> I have a piece of broom handle that I was going to start working back
>> and forth while tapping with a hammer, wheel off of course.
>>
>> One method I recall was to run such as a broom handle between the
>> tire and fender and use the tire as leverage.  I won't be dropping it
>> enough for that as the tire won't be quite that close to the fender.
>> I suppose another way would be to install the new A arms, adjust them
>> as close to zero-c as I can at the desired ride height, then lift the
>> car, remove the coil-over, and swing the suspension to see if I still
have clearance.
>>
>> Other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike Thomas
>> VP, POCA
>> VP, Panteras Northwest
>> Yellow '74 #6328
>>
>>
>>
>>
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References

   1. [16]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
   2. [17]mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   3. [18]mailto:davel at emspace.com
   4. [19]http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
   5. [20]http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
   6. [21]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   8. [23]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   9. [24]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  10. [25]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  11. [26]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

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References

   1. http://www.eastwood.com/ew-fender-roller-w-instruction.html
   2. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
   3. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   5. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
   6. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com
   7. mailto:davel at emspace.com
   8. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
   9. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  16. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
  17. mailto:pantera01826 at rogers.com?
  18. mailto:davel at emspace.com?
  19. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52
  20. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RENTAL-Fender-Roller-Lip-Forming-Rolling-Tool-
  21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
  22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
  24. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  25. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
  26. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  27. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  28. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com