[DeTomaso] V-12 Boss/Cleveland motor!

Sean Korb spkorb at gmail.com
Tue Sep 2 22:40:52 EDT 2014 

Hmm... that twin turbo Short I6 that Ford has been putting in Volvos sure
looks tasty.  300HP out of the box.  Just keep bringing on the boost until
it pops.

sean


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is an interesting challenge, but I don¹t see the point.
>
> A 2.3L 4-cylinder can make 1,000 HP with a big turbo.  Without a turbo,
> the 2.3L is a dog.  So, if you want big HP, run whatever engine fits and
> put a big power adder on it.
>
> If you don¹t want a power adder, run a big V8.
>
> If you want a V-12 for the sound, smoothness, and cool factor, start with
> a Ferrari, Jaguar, Lambo, or BMW core, and build it however you want.
>
>
> I just don¹t get why you would cut/weld a 302 Ford to make a V-12.
>
>
> On 9/2/14, 8:35 PM, "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Now all you need are some coach lights on the side.  Folks would think it
> >as a Pantera 2+2.
> >Mike Thomas
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> >michael at michaelshortt.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 2:05 PM
> >To: Corey Price
> >Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso List
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] V-12 Boss/Cleveland motor!
> >
> >Probably closer to what it would take.
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I think someone should try it but with an aluminum block and heads to
> >> save weight. No idea if stretching the car would work or look good
> >>though.
> >> Maybe you could push the passenger seat back, center the driver seat
> >> and make it an McLaren F1 wannabe.
> >>
> >> Flame suit on.
> >> Corey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Charles McCall
> >> > <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >   That's pretty cool! I don't think it would fit a Pantera though...
> >> >
> >> >   On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >> >   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     A  A Hi guys,
> >> >     A  A Here's the solution for all of you wishing the Pantera had a
> >> >     V12
> >> >     A  A Cleveland?
> >> >     A
> >> >     A
> >>[1][2]http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
> >> >     A  A Mike
> >> >     A  A Sent from my iPhone
> >> >     References
> >> >     A  A 1.
> >> >     [3]http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
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> >> >   1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >> >   2. http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
> >> >   3. http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
> >> >   4. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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   Hmm... that twin turbo Short I6 that Ford has been putting in Volvos
   sure looks tasty.A  300HP out of the box.A  Just keep bringing on the
   boost until it pops.
   sean

   On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Will Kooiman
   <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

     It is an interesting challenge, but I donA^1t see the point.
     A 2.3L 4-cylinder can make 1,000 HP with a big turbo.A  Without a
     turbo,
     the 2.3L is a dog.A  So, if you want big HP, run whatever engine
     fits and
     put a big power adder on it.
     If you donA^1t want a power adder, run a big V8.
     If you want a V-12 for the sound, smoothness, and cool factor, start
     with
     a Ferrari, Jaguar, Lambo, or BMW core, and build it however you
     want.
     I just donA^1t get why you would cut/weld a 302 Ford to make a V-12.

   On 9/2/14, 8:35 PM, "Mike Thomas" <[2]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
   >Now all you need are some coach lights on the side.A  Folks would
   think it
   >as a Pantera 2+2.
   >Mike Thomas
   >
   >-----Original Message-----
   >From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   >[4]michael at michaelshortt.com
   >Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 2:05 PM
   >To: Corey Price
   >Cc: Mike Drew; De Tomaso List
   >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] V-12 Boss/Cleveland motor!
   >
   >Probably closer to what it would take.
   >
   >
   >On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Corey Price <[5]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >> I think someone should try it but with an aluminum block and heads
   to
   >> save weight. No idea if stretching the car would work or look good
   >>though.
   >> Maybe you could push the passenger seat back, center the driver seat
   >> and make it an McLaren F1 wannabe.
   >>
   >> Flame suit on.
   >> Corey
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >> > On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Charles McCall
   >> > <[6]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   >> wrote:
   >> >
   >> >A  A That's pretty cool! I don't think it would fit a Pantera
   though...
   >> >
   >> >A  A On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   >> >A  A <[1][7]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   >> >
   >> >A  A  A AA  A Hi guys,
   >> >A  A  A AA  A Here's the solution for all of you wishing the
   Pantera had a
   >> >A  A  A V12
   >> >A  A  A AA  A Cleveland?
   >> >A  A  A A
   >> >A  A  A A
   >>[1][2][8]http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
   >> >A  A  A AA  A Mike
   >> >A  A  A AA  A Sent from my iPhone
   >> >A  A  A References
   >> >A  A  A AA  A 1.
   >> >A  A
   A [3][9]http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
   >> >A  A  A _______________________________________________
   >> >A  A  A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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   >> >
   >> > References
   >> >
   >> >A  A 1. mailto:[12]detomaso at poca.com
   >> >A  A 2.
   [13]http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
   >> >A  A 3.
   [14]http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
   >> >A  A 4. mailto:[15]DeTomaso at poca.com
   >> >A  A 5. [16]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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References

   1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   2. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
   3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   4. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
   5. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
   6. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   8. http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
   9. http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  13. http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
  14. http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=67468.0;topicseen
  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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  17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  21. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
  22. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
  23. tel:912-232-9390
  24. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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  26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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