[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 124, Issue 27
David Kelly
gmawtig at gmail.com
Mon Oct 27 15:37:01 EDT 2014
Hello Everyone,
I'm attending SEMA this year and looking for a fellow Pantera person to tag
along with. Any
one else going? I fly in Monday and leave Saturday.
A little more to the story. My wife works for Advance Auto parts and will
be working at
the show...did this two years ago but by day three got pretty lonely seeing
all this stuff
with out someone else to hang with..
David Kelly
Virginia
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> 1. Re: What to feed your tires (Rick)
> 2. Re: What to feed your tires (doug351c)
> 3. Re: What to feed your tires (Dave)
> 4. Email address for Les Gray? (Charles Engles)
> 5. Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (doug351c)
> 6. Re: Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 7. Good ol' 'Merica... (Brent Stewart)
> 8. Re: Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (B Hower)
> 9. Re: Good ol' 'Merica... (Sean Korb)
> 10. Re: Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (John Buckman)
> 11. Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (Larry Finch)
> 12. Re: Vedr: fluidyne radiator (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:38:52 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Rick <rwgushue at verizon.net>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
> Message-ID: <18517661.2443305.1414363132176.JavaMail.root at vms170035>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I use No Touch tire care made by permatex foam spray on all my cars.
> Spray and walk away. No sticky residue or build up. Need to wipe off
> rim after or cover before. I just wipe off after. Using this for years
> after trying many other products. Only one coat, do not apply two or
> more or your tires become black and shiny, not what you want. This
> product makes tires look new and not detailed out. Just make sure your
> tires are dry before applying. Also don't spray when it's windy for
> obvious reasons. I haven't used Armor All for years for anything but
> have heard they are using a new formula ? Anyone know if this stuff
> works okay now ?? All the auto parts stores carry the No Touch spray.
>
> Rick
> 1582
>
>
>
> On 10/26/14, Charles McCall<charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to drying
> and
> cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and expensive
> tires.
> So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to make
> them
> black and clean?
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to drying
> and cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and
> expensive tires.
> So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to make
> them black and clean?
> __________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:54:58 -0800
> From: "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com>
> To: "Rick" <rwgushue at verizon.net>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
> Message-ID: <NGBBJDKLOLBENCGCLNBFCEGEPKAA.doug351c at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I concur with Rick about a single application of No Touch being a good
> choice and rate it as the second best tire treatment I've used.
> My two sons and I on our 5 cars have tried at least 8 such products over
> the years. Our fist choice though is Griots as it makes the tire look
> even more like it's new rather than surface treated.
>
> But with all these products, I have no idea if they add to or subtract
> from the longevity of the sidewall. I just know that I like the looks
> of the tire after the Griots treatment - especially for car shows.
>
> Doug Bruan
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:39 PM
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
>
>
> I use No Touch tire care made by permatex foam spray on all my cars.
> Spray and walk away. No sticky residue or build up. Need to wipe off
> rim after or cover before. I just wipe off after. Using this for years
> after trying many other products. Only one coat, do not apply two or
> more or your tires become black and shiny, not what you want. This
> product makes tires look new and not detailed out. Just make sure your
> tires are dry before applying. Also don't spray when it's windy for
> obvious reasons. I haven't used Armor All for years for anything but
> have heard they are using a new formula ? Anyone know if this stuff
> works okay now ?? All the auto parts stores carry the No Touch spray.
>
> Rick
> 1582
>
>
>
> On 10/26/14, Charles McCall<charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to drying
> and
> cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and expensive
> tires.
> So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to make
> them
> black and clean?
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to drying
> and cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and
> expensive tires.
> So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to make
> them black and clean?
> __________________________________________________________________
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:32:18 -0400
> From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
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> ZAINO, dries & does not crack. Next to the old, and no longer available
> (thanks to EPA), Johnson's Glo-Coat Floor Wax, this is the best. IMO
> IndyDave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles McCall [mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:19 AM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
>
> WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to drying and
> cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and expensive
> tires.
>
>
>
> So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to make them
> black and clean?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:11:14 -0500
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Email address for Les Gray?
> Message-ID: <005201cff18b$4989f5c0$dc9de140$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear Forum,
>
>
>
> Would anyone have a current email address for
> Les?
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Dear Forum,
>
>
> Would anyone have a current email address
> for Les?
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck
> Engles
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:40:28 -0800
> From: "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com>
> To: "POCA Forum Mailing List" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
> Message-ID: <NGBBJDKLOLBENCGCLNBFOEGFPKAA.doug351c at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and washers
> securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes. I'm hoping this forum can
> refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were custom
> ground
> down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide maximum
> clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch. There are no withness marks on
> the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in the way.
> Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in these
> holes?
> I belive I added them years ago for added strength. What have others seen
> in their bellhousings?
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:29:33 -0700
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
> Message-ID: <544E48BD.9060900 at asajay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Doug,
> As I recall, DeTomaso -did- have bolts there. But as I also recall,
> several people on this forum in the early days advocated that you leave
> those two -out- to facilitate removal of the transmission without the
> bellhousing. It's very possible (?) that yours were missing when you
> acquired it. But there -should- be something there to secure it all.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
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>
> On 10/26/2014 10:40 PM, doug351c wrote:
> > I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and washers
> > securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes. I'm hoping this forum can
> > refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were custom
> ground
> > down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide maximum
> > clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch. There are no withness marks
> on
> > the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in the
> way.
> > Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in these
> holes?
> > I belive I added them years ago for added strength. What have others
> seen
> > in their bellhousings?
> >
> > Doug Braun
> > blue 73L #5505
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:55:43 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Good ol' 'Merica...
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> Great...
> Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy Content, $50B
> Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut ?
>
> | ? |
> | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
> | Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...As the volume of
> ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply increased from 3% to 10% over
> the past two decades, the fuel?s energy density decreased by 3%,
> accordin... |
> | |
> | View on breakingenergy.com | Preview by Yahoo |
> | |
> | ? |
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Great...
> [1]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy Content,
> $50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut
>
>
> [2]image
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [3]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...
> As the volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply increased
> from 3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuelas energy density
> decreased by 3%, accordin...
> [4]View on breakingenergy.com
> Preview by Yahoo
>
> References
>
> 1.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 2.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 3.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 4.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: "doug351c at gmail.com" <doug351c at gmail.com>, POCA Forum Mailing
> List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
> Message-ID:
> <
> 1421621842.420802.1414422560040.JavaMail.yahoo at jws10748.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I believe those were OEM 10x40 bolts not studs. Mine had none when I had
> my ZF out the first time. I believe I ordered 2 in March of 2010 from
> Dennis @ 1.65 each.
> Three nuts may hold a wheel on the car,.........but I prefer to use 5 as
> designed. JMHO?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there
> may not be ! )
>
>
>
> From: doug351c <doug351c at gmail.com>
> To: POCA Forum Mailing List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:40 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
>
> I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and washers
> securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes.? I'm hoping this forum can
> refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were custom
> ground
> down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide maximum
> clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch.? There are no withness marks on
> the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in the way.
> Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in these
> holes?
> I belive I added them years ago for added strength.? What have others seen
> in their bellhousings?
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
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>
> -------------- next part --------------
> I believe those were OEM 10x40 bolts not studs. Mine had none when I
> had my ZF out the first time. I believe I ordered 2 in March of 2010
> from Dennis @ 1.65 each.
> Three nuts may hold a wheel on the car,.........but I prefer to use 5
> as designed. JMHO
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
> ! )
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: doug351c <doug351c at gmail.com>
> To: POCA Forum Mailing List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:40 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
> I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and washers
> securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes. I'm hoping this forum
> can
> refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were custom
> ground
> down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide
> maximum
> clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch. There are no withness marks
> on
> the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in the
> way.
> Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in these
> holes?
> I belive I added them years ago for added strength. What have others
> seen
> in their bellhousings?
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
> _______________________________________________
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:20:43 -0400
> From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good ol' 'Merica...
> Message-ID:
> <
> CABpzvs8RAdyjNjmi4Mw5jYiyEt2Sc8iKDFOcRSDAsSQvM9HM0Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I was going to say something about farmers and depressed Maize values this
> year but the graph on the second slide is much more interesting.
>
>
> http://leightyfoundation.org/w/wp-content/uploads/ammonia-12-sanantonio-podium-final.pdf
>
> I think gasoline is a mix of Ocatane, Pentane and Hexane? In the graph it
> just lists Octane in Gasoline but I know there's a lot of stuff in the
> cocktail. I can't remember all those reagents.
>
> sean
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> > Great...
> > [1]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy Content,
> > $50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut
> >
> >
> > [2]image
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [3]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...
> > As the volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply increased
> > from 3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuelas energy density
> > decreased by 3%, accordin...
> > [4]View on breakingenergy.com
> > Preview by Yahoo
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1.
> >
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> > 2.
> >
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> > 3.
> >
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> > 4.
> >
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> --
> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
> -------------- next part --------------
> I was going to say something about farmers and depressed Maize values
> this year but the graph on the second slide is much more interesting.
> [1]http://leightyfoundation.org/w/wp-content/uploads/ammonia-12-sananto
> nio-podium-final.pdf
> I think gasoline is a mix of Ocatane, Pentane and Hexane?A In the
> graph it just lists Octane in Gasoline but I know there's a lot of
> stuff in the cocktail. I can't remember all those reagents.
> sean
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
> <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A A Great...
> A A [1]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy
> Content,
> A A $50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A [2]image
> A A [3]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...
> A A As the volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply
> increased
> A A from 3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuelas energy
> density
> A A decreased by 3%, accordin...
> A A [4]View on [3]breakingenergy.com
> A A Preview by Yahoo
> References
> A A 1.
> [4]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-
> decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zo
> ne-oilfield-shut/
> A A 2.
> [5]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-
> decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zo
> ne-oilfield-shut/
> A A 3.
> [6]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-
> decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zo
> ne-oilfield-shut/
> A A 4.
> [7]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-
> decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zo
> ne-oilfield-shut/
> _______________________________________________
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> --
> Sean Korb [10]spkorb at spkorb.org [11]http://www.spkorb.org
> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
> #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
>
> References
>
> 1.
> http://leightyfoundation.org/w/wp-content/uploads/ammonia-12-sanantonio-podium-final.pdf
> 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 3. http://breakingenergy.com/
> 4.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 5.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 6.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 7.
> http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-zone-oilfield-shut/
> 8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 10. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
> 11. http://www.spkorb.org/
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:30:38 -0700
> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
> Message-ID: <2CC7BF09-FF2A-4027-8D08-0725AC0CAF25 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Those should be M10 x 1.5 x 40 socket (allen) head cap screws.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:36:57 -0400
> From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
> Message-ID: <8D1C01B5BD372D6-1ECC-186AC at webmail-vm079.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I removed those two lower bolts the first time I had the ZF out, based on
> forum advice from others.
>
> I have never noticed any bellhousing movement or issues in the 12 or so
> years since I left them out.
>
> YMMV
>
> Larry
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> I removed those two lower bolts the first time I had the ZF out, based
> on forum advice from others.
> I have never noticed any bellhousing movement or issues in the 12 or so
> years since I left them out.
> YMMV
> Larry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:06:33 -0400
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> To: gudmundfroiland at yahoo.no, detomaso at POCA.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vedr: fluidyne radiator
> Message-ID: <614c.3cb92bee.417fd599 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> In a message dated 10/24/14 2 42 23, gudmundfroiland at yahoo.no writes:
>
>
> >
> > My 1974 car has a small tube going from front to rear along with the hyd
> > brake & vacuum line. I always wonder what that tube was for. I guess
> that is
> > the same went line as described here?
> >
> >
> >>>Yes, it's part 37C in the drawing here:
>
> http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill18a.html
>
> Mike
> -------------- next part --------------
> In a message dated 10/24/14 2 42 23, gudmundfroiland at yahoo.no writes:
>
> My 1974 car has a small tube going from front to rear along with the
> hyd brake & vacuum line. I always wonder what that tube was for. I
> guess that is the same went line as described here?
>
> >>>Yes, it's part 37C in the drawing here:
> http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill18a.html
> Mike
>
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Hello Everyone,
I'm attending SEMA this year and looking for a fellow Pantera person to
tag along with.A Any
one else going?A I fly in Monday and leave Saturday.
A little more to the story.A My wife works for Advance Auto parts and
will be working at
the show...did this two years ago but by day three got pretty lonely
seeing all this stuff
with out someone else to hang with..
David Kelly
Virginia
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A A 1. Re: What to feed your tires (Rick)
A A 2. Re: What to feed your tires (doug351c)
A A 3. Re: What to feed your tires (Dave)
A A 4. Email address for Les Gray? (Charles Engles)
A A 5. Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (doug351c)
A A 6. Re: Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (Asa Jay
Laughton)
A A 7. Good ol' 'Merica... (Brent Stewart)
A A 8. Re: Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (B Hower)
A A 9. Re: Good ol' 'Merica... (Sean Korb)
A 10. Re: Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (John Buckman)
A 11.A Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ????? (Larry Finch)
A 12. Re: Vedr:A fluidyne radiator ([6]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:38:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rick <[7]rwgushue at verizon.net>
Cc: [8]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
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A A I use No Touch tire care made by permatex foam spray on all my
cars.
A A Spray and walk away. No sticky residue or build up. Need to
wipe off
A A rim after or cover before.A I just wipe off after. Using this
for years
A A after trying many other products.A Only one coat, do not apply
two or
A A more or your tires become black and shiny, not what you want.A
This
A A product makes tires look new and not detailed out. Just make
sure your
A A tires are dry before applying.A Also don't spray when it's
windy for
A A obvious reasons.A A I haven't used Armor All for years for
anything but
A A have heard they are using a new formula ?A Anyone know if this
stuff
A A works okay now ??A All the auto parts stores carry the No
Touch spray.
A A Rick
A A 1582
A A On 10/26/14, Charles McCall<[9]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
A A WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to
drying
A A and
A A cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and
expensive
A A tires.
A A So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to
make
A A them
A A black and clean?
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to
drying
A A and cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and
A A expensive tires.
A A So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to
make
A A them black and clean?
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:54:58 -0800
From: "doug351c" <[14]doug351c at gmail.com>
To: "Rick" <[15]rwgushue at verizon.net>
Cc: [16]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
Message-ID: <[17]NGBBJDKLOLBENCGCLNBFCEGEPKAA.doug351c at gmail.com>
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I concur with Rick about a single application of No Touch being a
good
choice and rate it as the second best tire treatment I've used.
My two sons and I on our 5 cars have tried at least 8 such products
over
the years.A Our fist choice though is Griots as it makes the tire
look
even more like it's new rather than surface treated.
But with all these products, I have no idea if they add to or
subtract
from the longevity of the sidewall.A I just know that I like the
looks
of the tire after the Griots treatment - especially for car shows.
Doug Bruan
blue 73L #5505
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of
Rick
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:39 PM
Cc: [19]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
A A I use No Touch tire care made by permatex foam spray on all my
cars.
A A Spray and walk away. No sticky residue or build up. Need to
wipe off
A A rim after or cover before.A I just wipe off after. Using this
for years
A A after trying many other products.A Only one coat, do not apply
two or
A A more or your tires become black and shiny, not what you want.A
This
A A product makes tires look new and not detailed out. Just make
sure your
A A tires are dry before applying.A Also don't spray when it's
windy for
A A obvious reasons.A A I haven't used Armor All for years for
anything but
A A have heard they are using a new formula ?A Anyone know if this
stuff
A A works okay now ??A All the auto parts stores carry the No
Touch spray.
A A Rick
A A 1582
A A On 10/26/14, Charles McCall<[20]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
A A WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to
drying
A A and
A A cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and
expensive
A A tires.
A A So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to
make
A A them
A A black and clean?
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to
drying
A A and cracking of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find and
A A expensive tires.
A A So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to
make
A A them black and clean?
A A
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:32:18 -0400
From: Dave <[27]dave at damardirect.com>
To: Charles McCall <[28]charlesmccall at gmail.com>,
"[29]detomaso at poca.com"
A A A A <[30]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
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ZAINO, dries & does not crack. Next to the old, and no longer
available (thanks to EPA), Johnson's Glo-Coat Floor Wax, this is the
best. IMO
IndyDave
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles McCall [mailto:[31]charlesmccall at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:19 AM
To: [32]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] What to feed your tires
WE know that armor-all and other tire care products can lead to
drying and crackingA of rubber, not something good for hard-to-find
and expensive tires.
So what according to conventional wisdom is the best product to make
them black and clean?
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:11:14 -0500
From: "Charles Engles" <[33]cengles at cox.net>
To: <[34]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Email address for Les Gray?
Message-ID: <005201cff18b$4989f5c0$dc9de140$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear Forum,
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Would anyone have a current
email address for
Les?
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
A Warmest regards,A Chuck Engles
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A A Dear Forum,
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Would anyone have a
current email address
A A for Les?
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
Warmest regards,A Chuck
A A Engles
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:40:28 -0800
From: "doug351c" <[35]doug351c at gmail.com>
To: "POCA Forum Mailing List" <[36]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
Message-ID: <[37]NGBBJDKLOLBENCGCLNBFOEGFPKAA.doug351c at gmail.com>
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I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and
washers
securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes.A I'm hoping this
forum can
refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were
custom ground
down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide
maximum
clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch.A There are no withness
marks on
the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in
the way.
Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in
these holes?
I belive I added them years ago for added strength.A What have
others seen
in their bellhousings?
Doug Braun
blue 73L #5505
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:29:33 -0700
From: Asa Jay Laughton <[39]asajay at asajay.com>
To: [40]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
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Doug,
As I recall, DeTomaso -did- have bolts there.A But as I also
recall,
several people on this forum in the early days advocated that you
leave
those two -out- to facilitate removal of the transmission without
the
bellhousing.A It's very possible (?) that yours were missing when
you
acquired it.A But there -should- be something there to secure it
all.
AsaA Jay
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
******************************
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[43]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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On 10/26/2014 10:40 PM, doug351c wrote:
> I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and
washers
> securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes.A I'm hoping this
forum can
> refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were
custom ground
> down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide
maximum
> clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch.A There are no withness
marks on
> the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in
the way.
> Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in
these holes?
> I belive I added them years ago for added strength.A What have
others seen
> in their bellhousings?
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:55:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brent Stewart <[48]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
To: De Tomaso List <[49]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Good ol' 'Merica...
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Great...
Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy Content,
$50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut ?
| ? |
| ? |A | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...As the
volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply increased from
3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuel?s energy density
decreased by 3%, accordin... |
|A |
| View on [51]breakingenergy.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|A |
| ? |
-------------- next part --------------
A A Great...
A A [1]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy
Content,
A A $50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A [2]image
A A [3]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...
A A As the volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply
increased
A A from 3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuelas energy
density
A A decreased by 3%, accordin...
A A [4]View on [52]breakingenergy.com
A A Preview by Yahoo
References
A A 1.
[53]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
A A 2.
[54]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
A A 3.
[55]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
A A 4.
[56]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: B Hower <[57]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
To: "[58]doug351c at gmail.com" <[59]doug351c at gmail.com>,A POCA Forum
Mailing
A A A A List <[60]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
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I believe those were OEM 10x40 bolts not studs. Mine had none when I
had my ZF out the first time. I believe I ordered 2 in March of 2010
from Dennis @ 1.65 each.
Three nuts may hold a wheel on the car,.........but I prefer to use
5 as designed. JMHO?Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
-- for there may not be ! )
A From: doug351c <[62]doug351c at gmail.com>
A To: POCA Forum Mailing List <[63]detomaso at poca.com>
A Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:40 AM
A Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and
washers
securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes.? I'm hoping this
forum can
refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were
custom ground
down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to provide
maximum
clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch.? There are no withness
marks on
the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting in
the way.
Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in
these holes?
I belive I added them years ago for added strength.? What have
others seen
in their bellhousings?
Doug Braun
blue 73L #5505
_______________________________________________
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A A I believe those were OEM 10x40 bolts not studs. Mine had none
when I
A A had my ZF out the first time. I believe I ordered 2 in March of
2010
A A from Dennis @ 1.65 each.
A A Three nuts may hold a wheel on the car,.........but I prefer to
use 5
A A as designed. JMHO
A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
not be
A A ! )
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: doug351c <[66]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A To: POCA Forum Mailing List <[67]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:40 AM
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
A A I'm looking at my ZF and I'm seeing two M10x1.5 studs, nuts and
washers
A A securing my two lower ZF to Bellhousing holes.A I'm hoping
this forum
A A can
A A refresh my memory because the nuts are 17mm hex nuts that were
custom
A A ground
A A down to a 6mm thin-pattern thickness (by yours truly) to
provide
A A maximum
A A clearance for my 10.5" Centerforce clutch.A There are no
withness marks
A A on
A A the clutch housing so obviously these fasteners are not getting
in the
A A way.
A A Is my memory correct that DeTomaso never installed fasteners in
these
A A holes?
A A I belive I added them years ago for added strength.A What have
others
A A seen
A A in their bellhousings?
A A Doug Braun
A A blue 73L #5505
A A _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:20:43 -0400
From: Sean Korb <[72]spkorb at gmail.com>
To: "[73]detomaso at poca.com" <[74]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good ol' 'Merica...
Message-ID:
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I was going to say something about farmers and depressed Maize
values this
year but the graph on the second slide is much more interesting.
[76]http://leightyfoundation.org/w/wp-content/uploads/ammonia-12-san
antonio-podium-final.pdf
I think gasoline is a mix of Ocatane, Pentane and Hexane?A In the
graph it
just lists Octane in Gasoline but I know there's a lot of stuff in
the
cocktail. I can't remember all those reagents.
sean
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <
[77]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>A A Great...
>A A [1]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline Energy
Content,
>A A $50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut
>
>
>A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A [2]image
>
>
>
>
>
>
>A A [3]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline ...
>A A As the volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline supply
increased
>A A from 3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuelas energy
density
>A A decreased by 3%, accordin...
>A A [4]View on [78]breakingenergy.com
>A A Preview by Yahoo
>
> References
>
>A A 1.
>
[79]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
>A A 2.
>
[80]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
>A A 3.
>
[81]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
>A A 4.
>
[82]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethanol
-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-z
one-oilfield-shut/
>
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'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
#1382
"The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
"Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P.
Picasso
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A A I was going to say something about farmers and depressed Maize
values
A A this year but the graph on the second slide is much more
interesting.
A
A [1][87]http://leightyfoundation.org/w/wp-content/uploads/ammonia-1
2-sananto
A A nio-podium-final.pdf
A A I think gasoline is a mix of Ocatane, Pentane and Hexane?AA In
the
A A graph it just lists Octane in Gasoline but I know there's a lot
of
A A stuff in the cocktail. I can't remember all those reagents.
A A sean
A A On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
A A <[2][88]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A A AA A Great...
A A A AA A [1]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline
Energy
A A A Content,
A A A AA A $50B Midstream Merger & Neutral Zone Oilfield Shut
A A A AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA
AA AA [2]image
A A A AA A [3]Energy News Roundup: Ethanol Decreased US Gasoline
...
A A A AA A As the volume of ethanol blended into the US gasoline
supply
A A A increased
A A A AA A from 3% to 10% over the past two decades, the fuelas
energy
A A A density
A A A AA A decreased by 3%, accordin...
A A A AA A [4]View on [3][89]breakingenergy.com
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A A A References
A A A AA A 1.
A A
A [4][90]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-et
hanol-
A A
A decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zo
A A A ne-oilfield-shut/
A A A AA A 2.
A A
A [5][91]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-et
hanol-
A A
A decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zo
A A A ne-oilfield-shut/
A A A AA A 3.
A A
A [6][92]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-et
hanol-
A A
A decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zo
A A A ne-oilfield-shut/
A A A AA A 4.
A A
A [7][93]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-et
hanol-
A A
A decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zo
A A A ne-oilfield-shut/
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A A Sean Korb [10][96]spkorb at spkorb.org
[11][97]http://www.spkorb.org
A A '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71
Pantera
A A #1382
A A "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
A A "Computers are useless.AA They can only give you answers." -P.
Picasso
References
A A 1.
[98]http://leightyfoundation.org/w/wp-content/uploads/ammonia-12-san
antonio-podium-final.pdf
A A 2. mailto:[99]detomaso at poca.com
A A 3. [100]http://breakingenergy.com/
A A 4.
[101]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethano
l-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zone-oilfield-shut/
A A 5.
[102]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethano
l-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zone-oilfield-shut/
A A 6.
[103]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethano
l-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zone-oilfield-shut/
A A 7.
[104]http://breakingenergy.com/2014/10/27/energy-news-roundup-ethano
l-decreased-us-gasoline-energy-content-50b-midstream-merger-neutral-
zone-oilfield-shut/
A A 8. mailto:[105]DeTomaso at poca.com
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A 10. mailto:[107]spkorb at spkorb.org
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:30:38 -0700
From: John Buckman <[109]jb841 at cox.net>
To: [110]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
Message-ID: <[111]2CC7BF09-FF2A-4027-8D08-0725AC0CAF25 at cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Those should be M10 x 1.5 x 40 socket (allen) head cap screws.
John
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:36:57 -0400
From: Larry Finch <[112]fresnofinches at aol.com>
To: [113]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso]A Lower bellhousing to ZF bolts/studs ?????
Message-ID:
<[114]8D1C01B5BD372D6-1ECC-186AC at webmail-vm079.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I removed those two lower bolts the first time I had the ZF out,
based on forum advice from others.
I have never noticed any bellhousing movement or issues in the 12 or
so years since I left them out.
YMMV
Larry
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A A I removed those two lower bolts the first time I had the ZF
out, based
A A on forum advice from others.
A A I have never noticed any bellhousing movement or issues in the
12 or so
A A years since I left them out.
A A YMMV
A A Larry
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:06:33 -0400
From: [115]MikeLDrew at aol.com
To: [116]gudmundfroiland at yahoo.no, detomaso at POCA.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vedr:A fluidyne radiator
Message-ID: <[117]614c.3cb92bee.417fd599 at aol.com>
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In a message dated 10/24/14 2 42 23, [118]gudmundfroiland at yahoo.no
writes:
>
> My 1974 car has a small tube going from front to rear along with
the hyd
> brake & vacuum line. I always wonder what that tube was for. I
guess that is
> the same went line as described here?
>
>
>>>Yes, it's part 37C in the drawing here:
[119]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill18a.html
Mike
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A A In a message dated 10/24/14 2 42 23,
[120]gudmundfroiland at yahoo.no writes:
A A A My 1974 car has a small tube going from front to rear along
with the
A A A hyd brake & vacuum line. I always wonder what that tube was
for. I
A A A guess that is the same went line as described here?
A A >>>Yes, it's part 37C in the drawing here:
A
A [121]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill18a.ht
ml
A A Mike
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