[DeTomaso] MME? WTF? HAVEN'T YOU GUYS LEARNED YOUR LESSON?

[Mikael]

MME. Always a topic that starts a debate. Myself, I don't know. My MME engine had a failure. After 3 years and 4500 miles. MME's fault? Don't know. Could be someone, including me, overreving it, it goes through 2nd gear so fast you wouldn't believe it. I've put on a revlimiter now. When I had the failure, MME initially clearly tried to protect themselves by not giving any guess as to why it failed, the typical American "don't admit anyting or a lawsuit is coming" response. But when I made it clear I was not blaming them, they were very helpful with parts and advice, parts at almost Summit prices. 

Can you really buy a 600hp engine and expect it to live forever? If it had failed within 300 miles, I would be knocking on their door, but after that, I consider it my own risk. And I know it will fail some day, if I'm lucky it'll take a few years. 

Worrying of course to read the ripoff stories. But is there any volume engine builder that hasn't got dissatisfied customers? If I were an engine builder I would worry about how the customer treats my engine. Reving when cold, over heating, over reving. When I took delivery of my Pantera, I had to add 3 liters of oil to get it up to the full mark (8 liter pan), can't have been good for it. 

Chris, as you describe it you've not been treated fairly, I agree, but there seems to be many customers that have?‎ 

Would I buy another MME engine? Based on the relationship I have with them now, yes. And frankly, if I ruled out MME, where can I get Cleveland like mine? Who else builds them at this volume? ‎If indeed Buttermore has been ripped off, that would change my mind


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Sent: torsdag den 23. oktober 2014 18.25
To: Ed Mendez
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MME? WTF? HAVEN'T YOU GUYS LEARNED YOUR LESSON?

Good feedback and info to share,

Thx
On Oct 23, 2014 12:20 PM, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com> wrote:

> I hear you Chris.
>
> :-)
>
>
> > On Oct 22, 2014, at 21:44, clewis at dmn.net wrote:
> >
> > I cannot believe that any of you guys are even contemplating giving MME,
> McKeown Motor Sport Engineering, a single
> > dollar of your money
> >
> >
> > Here are all the reasons you need not to do business with Mark & Heather
> Mckeown:
> >
> > 1)
> http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/McKeown-Motorsport-engineering-Inc/Waldorf-Maryland-20602/McKeown-Motorsport-
> >
> engineering-Inc-Mark-McKeown-We-employed-MME-to-build-a-race-engine-tha-986958
> >
> >
> > 2)
> http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/McKeown-Motorsport-Engineering/-Waldorf-Maryland-20604/McKeown-Motorsport-Engineering-
> > Poor-workmanship-poor-quality-their-work-was-not-what-I-745524
> >
> > 3)
> http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/McKeown-Motorsport-Engineering/internet/McKeown-Motorsport-Engineering-MME-Racing-Bad-
> > Engine-Build-Bad-Business-Practices-Bad-Cu-530310
> >
> > My build cost me over $20K. It did not even make it 800 miles before
> catastrophic failure of the valve train.
> >
> > Even after Jesel performed a detailed failure analysis and provided a
> report with microscopic examination of the
> > failure mode that clearly found the failure was the result of ENGINE
> BUILDER errors, Mark McKeown would not do anything
> > to make the situation right. He would not stand behind his product in
> any way.
> >
> > I mean they could not even get a set of valve covers right. They were
> delivered with no provision for a breather or
> > oil fill. How was I supposed to get oil into the engine using those
> valve covers?
> >
> > Anyway, I hope to god none of you have to go through what I did.
> >
> > Chris Lewis
> >
> >
> >
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