[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 124, Issue 22
Patrick HALS
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Wed Oct 22 17:32:34 EDT 2014
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> 1. fluidyne radiator (michael barnes)
> 2. Re: All AL Engine (jderyke at aol.com)
> 3. Re: All AL Engine (Mikael)
> 4. Re: All AL Engine (Ken Green)
> 5. Re: All AL Engine (michael at michaelshortt.com)
> 6. Re: stock pantera's (Jeff Detrich)
> 7. Re: fluidyne radiator (bill gaino)
> 8. Re: fluidyne radiator (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
> 9. Re: fluidyne radiator (Brent Stewart)
> 10. Re: GR4 factory De Tomaso Pantera Candy 2862 overall win in
> FIA Portimao, Portugal (John Buckman)
> 11. Re: fluidyne radiator (John Donahue)
> 12. NPC: Great Beer Commercial (Mike Thomas)
> 13. NPC: Pratt collection to be auctioned (Mike Thomas)
> 14. Re: fluidyne radiator (michael barnes)
> 15. Pantera headlight bucket VIN photos (Mike Drew)
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: michael barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:19:00 +0100
> Subject: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator ,chaps
>
> Sent by Michael Barnes
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: jderyke at aol.com
> To: charlesmccall at gmail.com, michael at michaelshortt.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:21:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> Not that shop specifically, but MME in Delaware is pretty well known
> for their new-3-yrs-ago aluminum 351 C block. There are at least 5 in
> running cars- two in Panteras. Seems like a solidly engineered piece.
> NOT cheap! FWIW- J DeRyke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 11:14 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> They do have some interesting products in their catalog... anyone have any
> first-hand experience with this shop?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
> Sent: martes, 21 de octubre de 2014 13:49
> To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
>
> As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
>
> Interesting.
>
> [4]http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
>
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> 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com?
> 2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
> 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
> To: <michael at michaelshortt.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:51:48 +0200
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> Indeed, and some good looking items. But $15k for 470 HP doesn't sound
> that good. Here's a link to $12k for 600 HP, like the one I have...
>
> http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/8186976/7346001.htm
>
>
> Mvh/Regards
> Mikael
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: michael at michaelshortt.com [mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com]
> Sendt: 21. oktober 2014 13:49
> Til: detomaso at poca.com
> Emne: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
>
> As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
>
> Interesting.
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:04:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> If you are going to an aluminum block, does it even make sense to stick
> with a Cleveland style block? You can get a 9.2 deck Dart aluminum
> block and the only difference you can see is the oil sender port area
> at the rear of the valley. There are more parts available for a
> Windsor style block, so I think that makes more sense.
> Ken
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> They do have some interesting products in their catalog... anyone have
> any first-hand experience with this shop?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
> Sent: martes, 21 de octubre de 2014 13:49
> To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
> Interesting.
> [4]http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
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> 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
> 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:09:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> Perhaps,A but $3,000 to lose 150 lbs, in F1, that would cost
> $20,000,000.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Oct 21, 2014 3:52 PM, "Mikael" <[1]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk> wrote:
>
> Indeed, and some good looking items. But $15k for 470 HP doesn't
> sound that good. Here's a link to $12k for 600 HP, like the one I
> have...
> [2]http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/8186976/7346001.htm
> Mvh/Regards
> Mikael
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> [mailto:[4]michael at michaelshortt.com]
> Sendt: 21. oktober 2014 13:49
> Til: [5]detomaso at poca.com
> Emne: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
> As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
> Interesting.
> [6]http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
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> References
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> 1. mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk
> 2. http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/8186976/7346001.htm
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
> 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <DeTomaso at poca.com>, Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:12:34 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
> Was that 6748?
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A A local poca member had his car totaled after hurricane sandy.
> He was
> A A able to buy the car back for peanuts (and no salvage history
> because
> A A the insurance company never took title) he was able to rebuild
> the car
> A A with a new stroker engine without coming out of pocket at all!
> A A Boyd
> A A On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
> A A <[1][2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> A A A AA A The lesson is to increase your coverage if indicated
> at each
> A A A renewal.
> A A A AA A If you just keep it covered for what you paid for it
> and the
> A A A market
> A A A AA A goes up you won't have enough money to buy another. :(
> A A A AA A -----Original Message-----
> A A A AA A From: LS via DeTomaso <[2][3]detomaso at poca.com>
> A A A AA A To: Dave <[3][4]dave at damardirect.com>; The Hougans
> A A A <[4][5]hougan at verizon.net>;
> A A A AA A [5][6]detomaso at poca.com <[6][7]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A A A AA A Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 12:20 pm
> A A A AA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
> A A A AA A Mike, why hasn't your insurance company replaced your
> car with
> A A A another
> A A A AA A similar condition Detomaso?
> A A A AA A Did you have an agreed upon value policy?
> A A A AA A LS
> A A A AA A central
> A A A AA A wines-spiritsAA A est 1934
> A A A AA A 625 e street nw
> A A A AA A washington, dc 20004
> A A A AA A [1][7][8]centralwines.com
> A A A AA A [2][8][9]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> A A A AA A [9]202-737-2800
> A A A AA A
> A A A A
> __________________________________________________________________
> A A A AA A From: Dave <[1][10][10]dave at damardirect.com>
> A A A AA A To: The Hougans <[2][11][11]hougan at verizon.net>;
> A A A "[3][12][12]detomaso at poca.com"
> A A A AA A <[4][13][13]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A A A AA A Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09 PM
> A A A AA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
> A A A AA A Mike,
> A A A AA A Sorry to about your loss. Hope you were not injured.
> A A A AA A I am curious if you were under insured? I hope you get
> a
> A A A replacement.
> A A A AA A IndyDave
> A A A AA A -----Original Message-----
> A A A AA A From: The Hougans
> [[5]mailto:[3][14][14]hougan at verizon.net]
> A A A AA A Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:59 PM
> A A A AA A To: [4][6][15][15]detomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
> A A A AA A Well, in the 'everyone has an opinion' department:AA
> I had a
> A A A nearly
> A A A AA A stock '73L, stock radiator and fans, original dual
> point dizzy,
> A A A stock
> A A A AA A intake manifold, no body mods, original interior...
> (headers
> A A A and carb
> A A A AA A were the only non-stock items on the car).AA I did
> NOT get the
> A A A car as an
> A A A AA A investment and I wanted it to drive!AA And, drive it
> I did! In
> A A A fact, I
> A A A AA A would have driven it more had it not been for the
> insurance
> A A A AA A restrictions.AA It ran fine (yes, I would have liked
> more
> A A A power) and did
> A A A AA A NOT overheat.AA Started easily hot or cold and idled
> well.AA I
> A A A LOVED the
> A A A AA A fact it was stock.
> A A A AA A Sadly, it was rear ended and totaled while I was at a
> stoplight
> A A A and I
> A A A AA A have not had any luck finding another at anywhere
> close to what
> A A A I paid
> A A A AA A only a year and a half earlier (June 2012).AA
> Personally, I
> A A A wish these
> A A A AA A investors would 'invest' in some other car so prices
> would
> A A A return to
> A A A AA A something I can afford!
> A A A AA A Mike
> A A A AA A On Behalf Of Dave
> A A A AA A Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:22 PM
> A A A AA A To: Ed Mendez; Boyd Casey
> A A A AA A Cc: [5][7][16][16]detomaso at poca.com; Bob Lehmann
> A A A AA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
> A A A AA A Ed, I think the purists that desire all stock is
> mostly
> A A A detached from
> A A A AA A this group. I think it is a different group looking at
> the cars
> A A A for
> A A A AA A investment, not making them better and fun to drive. I
> think
> A A A the
> A A A AA A purists are in for the long haul to make money and add
> to their
> A A A AA A collections.
> A A A AA A Just my opinion, yes everyone has one.
> A A A AA A IndyDave
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> A A A References
> A A A AA A 1. [10][19][19]http://centralwines.com/
> A A A AA A 2. [11][20][20]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> A A A AA A 3. [12]mailto:[21][21]hougan at verizon.net
> A A A AA A 4. [13]mailto:[22][22]detomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 5. [14]mailto:[23][23]detomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 6. [15]mailto:[24][24]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 7.
> [16][25][25]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> A A A AA A 2. mailto:[29][29]hougan at verizon.net
> A A A AA A 3. mailto:[30][30]detomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 4. mailto:[31][31]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 5. mailto:[3][32][32]hougan at verizon.net?
> A A A AA A 6. mailto:[33][33]detomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 7. mailto:[34][34]detomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 8. mailto:[35][35]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A A A AA A 9.
> [36][36]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A A A AA 10. [37][37]http://centralwines.com/
> A A A AA 11. [38][38]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> A A A AA 12. mailto:[39][39]hougan at verizon.net?
> A A A AA 13. mailto:[40][40]detomaso at poca.com?
> A A A AA 14. mailto:[41][41]detomaso at poca.com?
> A A A AA 15. mailto:[42][42]DeTomaso at poca.com?
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> A A 2. mailto:[49]detomaso at poca.com
> A A 3. mailto:[50]dave at damardirect.com
> A A 4. mailto:[51]hougan at verizon.net
> A A 5. mailto:[52]detomaso at poca.com
> A A 6. mailto:[53]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A A 7. [54]http://centralwines.com/
> A A 8. [55]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> A A 9. tel:202-737-2800
> A 10. mailto:[56]dave at damardirect.com
> A 11. mailto:[57]hougan at verizon.net
> A 12. mailto:[58]detomaso at poca.com
> A 13. mailto:[59]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 14. mailto:[60]hougan at verizon.net
> A 15. mailto:[61]detomaso at poca.com
> A 16. mailto:[62]detomaso at poca.com
> A 17. mailto:[63]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 18. [64]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 19. [65]http://centralwines.com/
> A 20. [66]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> A 21. mailto:[67]hougan at verizon.net
> A 22. mailto:[68]detomaso at poca.com
> A 23. mailto:[69]detomaso at poca.com
> A 24. mailto:[70]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 25. [71]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 26. mailto:[72]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 27. [73]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 28. mailto:[74]dave at damardirect.com
> A 29. mailto:[75]hougan at verizon.net
> A 30. mailto:[76]detomaso at poca.com
> A 31. mailto:[77]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 32. mailto:[78]hougan at verizon.net
> A 33. mailto:[79]detomaso at poca.com
> A 34. mailto:[80]detomaso at poca.com
> A 35. mailto:[81]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 36. [82]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 37. [83]http://centralwines.com/
> A 38. [84]http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> A 39. mailto:[85]hougan at verizon.net
> A 40. mailto:[86]detomaso at poca.com
> A 41. mailto:[87]detomaso at poca.com
> A 42. mailto:[88]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 43. [89]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 44. mailto:[90]DeTomaso at poca.com
> A 45. [91]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. mailto:dave at damardirect.com
> 5. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://centralwines.com/
> 9. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 10. mailto:dave at damardirect.com
> 11. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 14. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 15. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 16. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 19. http://centralwines.com/
> 20. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 21. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 22. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 23. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 24. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 25. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 28. mailto:dave at damardirect.com
> 29. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 30. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 31. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 32. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 33. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 34. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 35. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 36. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 37. http://centralwines.com/
> 38. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 39. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 40. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 41. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 42. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 43. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 44. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 45. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 46. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 47. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 48. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 49. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 50. mailto:dave at damardirect.com
> 51. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 52. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 53. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 54. http://centralwines.com/
> 55. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 56. mailto:dave at damardirect.com
> 57. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 58. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 59. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 60. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 61. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 62. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 63. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 64. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 65. http://centralwines.com/
> 66. http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors
> 67. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 68. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 69. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 70. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 71. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> 77. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 78. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 79. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 80. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 81. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 82. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 83. http://centralwines.com/
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> 85. mailto:hougan at verizon.net
> 86. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 87. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
> To: michael barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>, Pantera List <
> detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:02:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> Here is one that will SHIP to the UK. It is a great piece! Bill 1362
>
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLUIDYNE-Aluminum-RADIATOR-71-96-De-Tomaso-Pantera-GTS-/270713421771?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f07c6ffcb
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fref=ts
> If you want it slick. www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: michael barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
> >Sent: Oct 21, 2014 3:19 PM
> >To: Pantera List <detomaso at poca.com>
> >Subject: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> >
> >Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator ,chaps
> >
> >Sent by Michael Barnes
> >
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> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> To: michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk, detomaso at poca.com
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:23:41 -0400
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22, michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> writes:
>
> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> ,chaps
>
> >>>I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> things.
> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that was
> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough to
> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> never technically 'overheated'.
> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass replacement
> from Hall Pantera:
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> m=20270
> Simply put, these things are terrific. They have something like 30%
> greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
> same space. They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
> to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus. The one in
> my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my Pantera
> slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
> gear behind endless traffic. My 539 hp engine never got over 190
> degrees. I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and off,
> indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently enough
> that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
> anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph. The #1 fan would shut off
> when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot mountains.
> Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
> it. If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
> into the bin.
> I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> m=20271
> Great stuff there too.
> Mike
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> To: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "
> michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk" <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>, "
> detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:02:19 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
> is a great way to go!
> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
> [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> writes:
> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> ,chaps
> >>>I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> things.
> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
> was
> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
> to
> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> never technically 'overheated'.
> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
> replacement
> from Hall Pantera:
>
> [3]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> ite
> m=20270
> Simply put, these things are terrific. They have something like 30%
> greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
> same space. They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
> to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus. The one in
> my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
> Pantera
> slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
> gear behind endless traffic. My 539 hp engine never got over 190
> degrees. I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
> off,
> indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
> enough
> that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
> anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph. The #1 fan would shut off
> when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
> mountains.
> Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
> it. If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
> into the bin.
> I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
>
> [4]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> ite
> m=20271
> Great stuff there too.
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> 2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> 3.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> 4.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: John Buckman <jb841 at cox.net>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:49:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GR4 factory De Tomaso Pantera Candy 2862 overall
> win in FIA Portimao, Portugal
> CONGRATULATIONS !!! WELL DONE !!!
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
> To: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:50:31 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>
> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
> > is a great way to go!
> > On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> > <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> > In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
> > [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> > writes:
> > Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> > ,chaps
> >>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> > One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> > industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> > [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> > They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> > things.
> > I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
> > exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> > damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> > about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
> > was
> > smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> > carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
> > to
> > tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> > and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> > never technically 'overheated'.
> > So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> > radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> > unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> > Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> > whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
> > replacement
> > from Hall Pantera:
> >
> > [3]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> > ite
> > m=20270
> > Simply put, these things are terrific. They have something like 30%
> > greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
> > same space. They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
> > to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus. The one in
> > my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
> > Pantera
> > slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
> > gear behind endless traffic. My 539 hp engine never got over 190
> > degrees. I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
> > off,
> > indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
> > enough
> > that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
> > anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph. The #1 fan would shut off
> > when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
> > mountains.
> > Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
> > it. If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
> > into the bin.
> > I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
> >
> > [4]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> > ite
> > m=20271
> > Great stuff there too.
> > Mike
> > _______________________________________________
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> > DeTomaso mailing list
> > [5]DeTomaso at poca.com
> > [6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> > 2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> > 3.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> > 4.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> > 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> > 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >
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> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:43:12 -0700
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Great Beer Commercial
> OK, so this is a bit bar afield, but this is a great commercial.
>
> Mike Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Even Budweiser couldn't top this one. Well Done!
>
>
> Usually beer commercials are full of goofy characters and funny gags,
> but this one carries an important message. Guinness "Empty Chair"
> salutes the character of a community as they honor one of their own
> who is out of sight, but not out of mind.
>
> They remind us that a true test of character is what you do when no
> one's looking.
>
>
>
> [1]Beer Commercial Reminds Us To Always Remember The Troops
>
> ____________________________________________________________
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=rx0MRawkrj4
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:46:50 -0700
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Pratt collection to be auctioned
> I was at Barrett Jackson in '07 or '08 when Pratt bought the GM
> Futureliner for $4.1M. I believe he also went home with one of the
> early GM concept cars from that road show, the Buick I think, in
> addition to a triple-black Hemi `Cuda coupe. Now all up for auction.
>
>
> Mike Thomas
>
> VP, POCA
>
> VP, Panteras Northwest
>
> Yellow '74 #6328
>
>
>
> [1]https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/from-shelby-s-800-hp-cobra-t
> o--christine---11-standouts-of-the-ron-pratte-sale-142536070.html#
>
> References
>
> 1.
> https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/from-shelby-s-800-hp-cobra-to--christine---11-standouts-of-the-ron-pratte-sale-142536070.html
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: michael barnes <michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
> To: John Donahue <demongusta at me.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:04:45 +0100
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
> I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna get one
> now.
>
> thanks
>
> Sent by Michael Barnes
>
> > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <demongusta at me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
> >> is a great way to go!
> >> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >> <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
> >> [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> >> writes:
> >> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> >> ,chaps
> >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> >> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> >> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> >> [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> >> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> >> things.
> >> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
> >> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> >> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> >> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
> >> was
> >> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> >> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
> >> to
> >> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> >> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> >> never technically 'overheated'.
> >> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> >> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> >> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> >> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> >> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
> >> replacement
> >> from Hall Pantera:
> >>
> >> [3]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> >> ite
> >
> > Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
> >> is a great way to go!
> >> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
> >> <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >> In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
> >> [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> >> writes:
> >> Anywhere in England i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
> >> ,chaps
> >>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
> >> One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
> >> industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
> >> [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> >> They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
> >> things.
> >> I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators. It was
> >> exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
> >> damn. However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
> >> about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
> >> was
> >> smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
> >> carried!!!! His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
> >> to
> >> tax a car's cooling system. I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
> >> and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
> >> never technically 'overheated'.
> >> So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
> >> radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
> >> unit as a template for sizing purposes).
> >> Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
> >> whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
> >> replacement
> >> from Hall Pantera:
> >>
> >> [3]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> >> ite
> >> m=20270
> >> Simply put, these things are terrific. They have something like 30%
> >> greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
> >> same space. They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
> >> to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus. The one in
> >> my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
> >> Pantera
> >> slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
> >> gear behind endless traffic. My 539 hp engine never got over 190
> >> degrees. I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
> >> off,
> >> indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
> >> enough
> >> that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
> >> anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph. The #1 fan would shut off
> >> when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
> >> mountains.
> >> Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
> >> it. If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
> >> into the bin.
> >> I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
> >>
> >> [4]
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
> >> ite
> >> m=20271
> >> Great stuff there too.
> >> Mike
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >> DeTomaso mailing list
> >> [5]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> [6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
> >> 2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
> >> 3.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> >> 4.
> http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
> >> 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:56:40 -0700
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera headlight bucket VIN photos
> Hi guys,
>
> Over the years lots of people have asked about the location of the VIN
> stamped in the headlight buckets. The buckets were hand-fitted to each car
> and then stamped, so they could be painted separately and reunited with the
> proper car.
>
> I happened to have one pass through my hands and broke out the camera to
> clear up any confusion once and for all.
>
> Here is a photo of the bucket, where you can just make out the stamping on
> the inside, between the two near most studs.
>
>
>
>
> And here is a close up of the stamping, 5503 (RIP).
>
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Today's Topics:
A A 1. fluidyne radiator (michael barnes)
A A 2. Re: All AL Engine ([6]jderyke at aol.com)
A A 3. Re: All AL Engine (Mikael)
A A 4. Re: All AL Engine (Ken Green)
A A 5. Re: All AL Engine ([7]michael at michaelshortt.com)
A A 6. Re: stock pantera's (Jeff Detrich)
A A 7. Re: fluidyne radiator (bill gaino)
A A 8. Re: fluidyne radiator ([8]MikeLDrew at aol.com)
A A 9. Re: fluidyne radiator (Brent Stewart)
A 10. Re: GR4 factory De Tomaso Pantera Candy 2862 overall winA in
A A A FIA Portimao, Portugal (John Buckman)
A 11. Re: fluidyne radiator (John Donahue)
A 12. NPC: Great Beer Commercial (Mike Thomas)
A 13. NPC: Pratt collection to be auctioned (Mike Thomas)
A 14. Re: fluidyne radiator (michael barnes)
A 15. Pantera headlight bucket VIN photos (Mike Drew)
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From:A michael barnes <[9]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
To:A Pantera List <[10]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:19:00 +0100
Subject:A [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
,chaps
Sent by Michael Barnes
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From:A [11]jderyke at aol.com
To:A [12]charlesmccall at gmail.com, [13]michael at michaelshortt.com,
[14]detomaso at poca.com
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:21:45 -0400
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
A A Not that shop specifically, but MME in Delaware is pretty well
known
A A for their new-3-yrs-ago aluminum 351 C block. There are at
least 5 in
A A running cars- two in Panteras. Seems like a solidly engineered
piece.
A A NOT cheap!A FWIW- J DeRyke
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Charles McCall <[15]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
A A To: michael <[16]michael at michaelshortt.com>; detomaso
<[17]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 11:14 am
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
They do have some interesting products in their catalog... anyone
have any
first-hand experience with this shop?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of
[2][19]michael at michaelshortt.com
Sent: martes, 21 de octubre de 2014 13:49
To: [3][20]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
Interesting.
[4][21]http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
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From:A Mikael <[30]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
To:A <[31]michael at michaelshortt.com>, <[32]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:51:48 +0200
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
Indeed, and some good looking items. But $15k for 470 HP doesn't
sound that good. Here's a link to $12k for 600 HP, like the one I
have...
[33]http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/8186976/7346001.htm
Mvh/Regards
Mikael
-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [34]michael at michaelshortt.com
[mailto:[35]michael at michaelshortt.com]
Sendt: 21. oktober 2014 13:49
Til: [36]detomaso at poca.com
Emne: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
Interesting.
[37]http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
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From:A Ken Green <[38]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To:A Charles McCall <[39]charlesmccall at gmail.com>,
"[40]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[41]michael at michaelshortt.com>,
"[42]detomaso at poca.com" <[43]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:04:55 -0700
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
A A If you are going to an aluminum block, does it even make sense
to stick
A A with a Cleveland style block?A You can get a 9.2 deck Dart
aluminum
A A block and the only difference you can see is the oil sender
port area
A A at the rear of the valley.A There are more parts available for
a
A A Windsor style block, so I think that makes more sense.
A A Ken
A A From: Charles McCall <[44]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
A A To: [45]michael at michaelshortt.com; [46]detomaso at poca.com
A A Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:07 AM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
A A They do have some interesting products in their catalog...
anyone have
A A any first-hand experience with this shop?
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][47]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
A A [2][48]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A Sent: martes, 21 de octubre de 2014 13:49
A A To: [3][49]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
A A As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
A A Interesting.
A A [4][50]http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=171444963712&roken=cUgayN
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From:A "[59]michael at michaelshortt.com"
<[60]michael at michaelshortt.com>
To:A Mikael <[61]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
Cc:A [62]detomaso at poca.com
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:09:27 -0400
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
A A Perhaps,AA but $3,000 to lose 150 lbs, in F1, that would cost
A A $20,000,000.
A A Michael Shortt
A A On Oct 21, 2014 3:52 PM, "Mikael"
<[1][63]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk> wrote:
A A A Indeed, and some good looking items. But $15k for 470 HP
doesn't
A A A sound that good. Here's a link to $12k for 600 HP, like the
one I
A A A have...
A A
A [2][64]http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/8186976/734600
1.htm
A A A Mvh/Regards
A A A Mikael
A A A -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
A A A Fra: [3][65]michael at michaelshortt.com
A A A [mailto:[4][66]michael at michaelshortt.com]
A A A Sendt: 21. oktober 2014 13:49
A A A Til: [5][67]detomaso at poca.com
A A A Emne: [DeTomaso] All AL Engine
A A A As posted on FB by Ed Mendez.
A A A Interesting.
A A
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[72]http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/8186976/7346001.htm
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From:A Jeff Detrich <[79]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
To:A Boyd Casey <[80]boyd411 at gmail.com>
Cc:A "[81]detomaso at poca.com" <[82]DeTomaso at poca.com>, Dave
<[83]dave at damardirect.com>
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:12:34 -0500
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
A A Was that 6748?
A A Jeff
A A 6559
A A On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Boyd Casey
<[1][84]boyd411 at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A A AA A A local poca member had his car totaled after
hurricane sandy.
A A A He was
A A A AA A able to buy the car back for peanuts (and no salvage
history
A A A because
A A A AA A the insurance company never took title) he was able to
rebuild
A A A the car
A A A AA A with a new stroker engine without coming out of pocket
at all!
A A A AA A Boyd
A A A AA A On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Pantdino via
DeTomaso
A A A AA A <[1][2][85]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A A AA AA A AAA A The lesson is to increase your coverage if
indicated
A A A at each
A A A AA AA A renewal.
A A A AA AA A AAA A If you just keep it covered for what you
paid for it
A A A and the
A A A AA AA A market
A A A AA AA A AAA A goes up you won't have enough money to buy
another. :(
A A A AA AA A AAA A -----Original Message-----
A A A AA AA A AAA A From: LS via DeTomaso
<[2][3][86]detomaso at poca.com>
A A A AA AA A AAA A To: Dave <[3][4][87]dave at damardirect.com>;
The Hougans
A A A AA AA A <[4][5][88]hougan at verizon.net>;
A A A AA AA A AAA A [5][6][89]detomaso at poca.com
<[6][7][90]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A A A AA AA A AAA A Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 12:20 pm
A A A AA AA A AAA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
A A A AA AA A AAA A Mike, why hasn't your insurance company
replaced your
A A A car with
A A A AA AA A another
A A A AA AA A AAA A similar condition Detomaso?
A A A AA AA A AAA A Did you have an agreed upon value policy?
A A A AA AA A AAA A LS
A A A AA AA A AAA A central
A A A AA AA A AAA A wines-spiritsAAA A est 1934
A A A AA AA A AAA A 625 e street nw
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A A
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A A A AA AA A AAA A From: Dave
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A A A AA AA A AAA A To: The Hougans
<[2][11][11][94]hougan at verizon.net>;
A A A AA AA A "[3][12][12][95]detomaso at poca.com"
A A A AA AA A AAA A <[4][13][13][96]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A A A AA AA A AAA A Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09 PM
A A A AA AA A AAA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
A A A AA AA A AAA A Mike,
A A A AA AA A AAA A Sorry to about your loss. Hope you were not
injured.
A A A AA AA A AAA A I am curious if you were under insured? I
hope you get
A A A a
A A A AA AA A replacement.
A A A AA AA A AAA A IndyDave
A A A AA AA A AAA A -----Original Message-----
A A A AA AA A AAA A From: The Hougans
A A A [[5]mailto:[3][14][14][97]hougan at verizon.net]
A A A AA AA A AAA A Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:59 PM
A A A AA AA A AAA A To: [4][6][15][15][98]detomaso at poca.com
A A A AA AA A AAA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
A A A AA AA A AAA A Well, in the 'everyone has an opinion'
department:AA
A A A I had a
A A A AA AA A nearly
A A A AA AA A AAA A stock '73L, stock radiator and fans,
original dual
A A A point dizzy,
A A A AA AA A stock
A A A AA AA A AAA A intake manifold, no body mods, original
interior...
A A A (headers
A A A AA AA A and carb
A A A AA AA A AAA A were the only non-stock items on the
car).AAA I did
A A A NOT get the
A A A AA AA A car as an
A A A AA AA A AAA A investment and I wanted it to drive!AAA
And, drive it
A A A I did! In
A A A AA AA A fact, I
A A A AA AA A AAA A would have driven it more had it not been
for the
A A A insurance
A A A AA AA A AAA A restrictions.AAA It ran fine (yes, I would
have liked
A A A more
A A A AA AA A power) and did
A A A AA AA A AAA A NOT overheat.AAA Started easily hot or
cold and idled
A A A well.AAA I
A A A AA AA A LOVED the
A A A AA AA A AAA A fact it was stock.
A A A AA AA A AAA A Sadly, it was rear ended and totaled while
I was at a
A A A stoplight
A A A AA AA A and I
A A A AA AA A AAA A have not had any luck finding another at
anywhere
A A A close to what
A A A AA AA A I paid
A A A AA AA A AAA A only a year and a half earlier (June
2012).AA
A A A Personally, I
A A A AA AA A wish these
A A A AA AA A AAA A investors would 'invest' in some other car
so prices
A A A would
A A A AA AA A return to
A A A AA AA A AAA A something I can afford!
A A A AA AA A AAA A Mike
A A A AA AA A AAA A On Behalf Of Dave
A A A AA AA A AAA A Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:22 PM
A A A AA AA A AAA A To: Ed Mendez; Boyd Casey
A A A AA AA A AAA A Cc: [5][7][16][16][99]detomaso at poca.com;
Bob Lehmann
A A A AA AA A AAA A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
A A A AA AA A AAA A Ed, I think the purists that desire all
stock is
A A A mostly
A A A AA AA A detached from
A A A AA AA A AAA A this group. I think it is a different group
looking at
A A A the cars
A A A AA AA A for
A A A AA AA A AAA A investment, not making them better and fun
to drive. I
A A A think
A A A AA AA A the
A A A AA AA A AAA A purists are in for the long haul to make
money and add
A A A to their
A A A AA AA A AAA A collections.
A A A AA AA A AAA A Just my opinion, yes everyone has one.
A A A AA AA A AAA A IndyDave
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From:A bill gaino <[275]gaino at earthlink.net>
To:A michael barnes <[276]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>, Pantera
List <[277]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:02:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
Here is one that will SHIP to the UK. It is a great piece!A Bill
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[278]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLUIDYNE-Aluminum-RADIATOR-71-96-De-T
omaso-Pantera-GTS-/270713421771?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie
s&hash=item3f07c6ffcb
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>From: michael barnes <[281]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
>Sent: Oct 21, 2014 3:19 PM
>To: Pantera List <[282]detomaso at poca.com>
>Subject: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
>
>Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
,chaps
>
>Sent by Michael Barnes
>
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From:A [285]MikeLDrew at aol.com
To:A [286]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk, [287]detomaso at poca.com
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:23:41 -0400
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
A A In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
[288]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
A A writes:
A A A Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
radiator
A A A ,chaps
A A >>>I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
A A One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in
the
A A industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
A A [289]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
A A They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among
other
A A things.
A A I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.A
It was
A A exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
A A damn.A However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a
fanatic
A A about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator
that was
A A smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
A A carried!!!!A His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot
enough to
A A tax a car's cooling system.A I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
A A and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
but it
A A never technically 'overheated'.
A A So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
A A radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
A A unit as a template for sizing purposes).
A A Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
A A whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
replacement
A A from Hall Pantera:
A
A [290]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpante
ra-inc&ite
A A m=20270
A A Simply put, these things are terrific.A They have something
like 30%
A A greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy
the
A A same space.A They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and
diodes
A A to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.A The
one in
A A my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
Pantera
A A slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in
first
A A gear behind endless traffic.A My 539 hp engine never got over
190
A A degrees.A I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on
and off,
A A indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat
efficiently enough
A A that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not
needed
A A anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.A The #1 fan would
shut off
A A when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
mountains.
A A Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can
repair
A A it.A If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it
goes
A A into the bin.
A A I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
A
A [291]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpante
ra-inc&ite
A A m=20271
A A Great stuff there too.
A A Mike
---------- Message transfA(c)rA(c) ----------
From:A Brent Stewart <[292]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
To:A "[293]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[294]MikeLDrew at aol.com>,
"[295]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk"
<[296]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>, "[297]detomaso at poca.com"
<[298]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:02:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
A A +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
concern, this
A A is a great way to go!
A A On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A <[299]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A A In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
A A [1][300]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
A A A writes:
A A A A Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
radiator
A A A A ,chaps
A A A >>>I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in
England.
A A A One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
in the
A A A industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
A A A [2][301]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
A A A They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
among other
A A A things.
A A A I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their
radiators.A It was
A A A exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
A A A damn.A However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is
a fanatic
A A A about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a
radiator that
A A was
A A A smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
A A A carried!!!!A His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets
hot enough
A A to
A A A tax a car's cooling system.A I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
A A A and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
but it
A A A never technically 'overheated'.
A A A So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
A A A radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
A A A unit as a template for sizing purposes).
A A A Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
A A A whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
A A replacement
A A A from Hall Pantera:
A
A [3][302]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpa
ntera-inc&
A A ite
A A A m=20270
A A A Simply put, these things are terrific.A They have something
like 30%
A A A greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they
occupy the
A A A same space.A They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches
and diodes
A A A to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.A
The one in
A A A my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove
my
A A Pantera
A A A slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills
in first
A A A gear behind endless traffic.A My 539 hp engine never got
over 190
A A A degrees.A I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling
on and
A A off,
A A A indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat
efficiently
A A enough
A A A that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not
needed
A A A anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.A The #1 fan
would shut off
A A A when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
A A mountains.
A A A Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can
repair
A A A it.A If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator,
it goes
A A A into the bin.
A A A I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
A
A [4][303]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpa
ntera-inc&
A A ite
A A A m=20271
A A A Great stuff there too.
A A A Mike
A A _______________________________________________
A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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References
A A 1. mailto:[306]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
A A 2. [307]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
A A 3.
[308]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera
-inc&ite
A A 4.
[309]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera
-inc&ite
A A 5. mailto:[310]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A 6. [311]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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From:A John Buckman <[312]jb841 at cox.net>
To:A [313]detomaso at poca.com
Cc:A
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:49:12 -0700
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] GR4 factory De Tomaso Pantera Candy 2862
overall win in FIA Portimao, Portugal
CONGRATULATIONS !!!A WELL DONE !!!
John
---------- Message transfA(c)rA(c) ----------
From:A John Donahue <[314]demongusta at me.com>
To:A Brent Stewart <[315]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
Cc:A [316]detomaso at poca.com
Date:A Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:50:31 -0700
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
<[317]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>A A +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
concern, this
>A A is a great way to go!
>A A On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>A A <[318]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>A A A In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>A A [1][319]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>A A A writes:
>A A A A Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or
similar radiator
>A A A A ,chaps
>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>A A A One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is
located in the
>A A A industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>A A A [2][320]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>A A A They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
among other
>A A A things.
>A A A I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their
radiators.A It was
>A A A exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
>A A A damn.A However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car
is a fanatic
>A A A about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a
radiator that
>A A was
>A A A smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water
it
>A A A carried!!!!A His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets
hot enough
>A A to
>A A A tax a car's cooling system.A I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
>A A A and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire
time, but it
>A A A never technically 'overheated'.
>A A A So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
>A A A radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
>A A A unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>A A A Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
>A A A whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>A A replacement
>A A A from Hall Pantera:
>
>A
A [3][321]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpa
ntera-inc&
>A A ite
>A A A m=20270
>A A A Simply put, these things are terrific.A They have
something like 30%
>A A A greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they
occupy the
>A A A same space.A They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches
and diodes
>A A A to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.A
The one in
>A A A my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I
drove my
>A A Pantera
>A A A slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills
in first
>A A A gear behind endless traffic.A My 539 hp engine never got
over 190
>A A A degrees.A I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling
on and
>A A off,
>A A A indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat
efficiently
>A A enough
>A A A that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not
needed
>A A A anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.A The #1 fan
would shut off
>A A A when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
>A A mountains.
>A A A Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop
can repair
>A A A it.A If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne
radiator, it goes
>A A A into the bin.
>A A A I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
>
>A
A [4][322]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpa
ntera-inc&
>A A ite
>A A A m=20271
>A A A Great stuff there too.
>A A A Mike
>A A _______________________________________________
>A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>
> References
>
>A A 1. mailto:[325]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>A A 2. [326]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>A A 3.
[327]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera
-inc&ite
>A A 4.
[328]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera
-inc&ite
>A A 5. mailto:[329]DeTomaso at poca.com
>A A 6. [330]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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From:A Mike Thomas <[333]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To:A <[334]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:43:12 -0700
Subject:A [DeTomaso] NPC: Great Beer Commercial
A A OK, so this is a bit bar afield, but this is a great
commercial.
A A Mike Thomas
A A EvenA BudweiserA couldn'tA top this one. WellA Done!
A A UsuallyA beer commercials are full of goofy characters and
funny gags,
A A but this one carries an important message. Guinness "Empty
Chair"
A A salutes the character of a community as they honor one ofA
their own
A A who is out of sight, but not out of mind.
A A They remind us that a true test of character is what you do
when no
A A one's looking.
A A [1]Beer Commercial Reminds Us To Always Remember The Troops
A A ____________________________________________________________
References
A A 1. [335]http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=rx0MRawkrj4
---------- Message transfA(c)rA(c) ----------
From:A Mike Thomas <[336]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
To:A <[337]detomaso at poca.com>
Cc:A
Date:A Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:46:50 -0700
Subject:A [DeTomaso] NPC: Pratt collection to be auctioned
A A I was at Barrett Jackson in '07 or '08 when Pratt bought the GM
A A Futureliner for $4.1M.A I believe he also went home with one
of the
A A early GM concept cars from that road show, the Buick I think,
in
A A addition to a triple-black Hemi `Cuda coupe.A Now all up for
auction.
A A Mike Thomas
A A VP, POCA
A A VP, Panteras Northwest
A A Yellow '74 #6328
A
A [1][338]https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/from-shelby-s-800-
hp-cobra-t
A
A o--christine---11-standouts-of-the-ron-pratte-sale-142536070.html#
References
A A 1.
[339]https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/from-shelby-s-800-hp-co
bra-to--christine---11-standouts-of-the-ron-pratte-sale-142536070.ht
ml
---------- Message transfA(c)rA(c) ----------
From:A michael barnes <[340]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk>
To:A John Donahue <[341]demongusta at me.com>
Cc:A "[342]detomaso at poca.com" <[343]detomaso at poca.com>
Date:A Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:04:45 +0100
Subject:A Re: [DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator
I think the Hall Pantera radiator looks right for our cars, gonna
get one now.
thanks
Sent by Michael Barnes
> On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:50, John Donahue <[344]demongusta at me.com>
wrote:
>
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
<[345]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>>A +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
concern, this
>>A is a great way to go!
>>A On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>A <[346]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>A A In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>>A [1][347]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>A A writes:
>>A A A Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
radiator
>>A A A ,chaps
>>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>>A A One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
in the
>>A A industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>>A A [2][348]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>>A A They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
among other
>>A A things.
>>A A I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their
radiators.A It was
>>A A exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
>>A A damn.A However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is
a fanatic
>>A A about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a
radiator that
>>A was
>>A A smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>>A A carried!!!!A His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets
hot enough
>>A to
>>A A tax a car's cooling system.A I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
>>A A and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
but it
>>A A never technically 'overheated'.
>>A A So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
>>A A radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
>>A A unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>>A A Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
>>A A whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>>A replacement
>>A A from Hall Pantera:
>>
>>A
[3][349]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpant
era-inc&
>>A ite
>
> Do you have a front-mounted a/c condenser with the Hall radiator?
>
>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
<[350]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>
>>A +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary
concern, this
>>A is a great way to go!
>>A On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>A <[351]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>>A A In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
>>A [1][352]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
>>A A writes:
>>A A A Anywhere in EnglandA i can get a new Fluidyne or similar
radiator
>>A A A ,chaps
>>>>> I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
>>A A One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located
in the
>>A A industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
>>A A [2][353]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>>A A They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams,
among other
>>A A things.
>>A A I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their
radiators.A It was
>>A A exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool
worth a
>>A A damn.A However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is
a fanatic
>>A A about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a
radiator that
>>A was
>>A A smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
>>A A carried!!!!A His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets
hot enough
>>A to
>>A A tax a car's cooling system.A I drove his car to Italy in
summer heat,
>>A A and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time,
but it
>>A A never technically 'overheated'.
>>A A So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a
proper
>>A A radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the
existing
>>A A unit as a template for sizing purposes).
>>A A Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd
bypass the
>>A A whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
>>A replacement
>>A A from Hall Pantera:
>>
>>A
[3][354]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpant
era-inc&
>>A ite
>>A A m=20270
>>A A Simply put, these things are terrific.A They have something
like 30%
>>A A greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they
occupy the
>>A A same space.A They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches
and diodes
>>A A to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.A
The one in
>>A A my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove
my
>>A Pantera
>>A A slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills
in first
>>A A gear behind endless traffic.A My 539 hp engine never got
over 190
>>A A degrees.A I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling
on and
>>A off,
>>A A indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat
efficiently
>>A enough
>>A A that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not
needed
>>A A anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.A The #1 fan
would shut off
>>A A when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
>>A mountains.
>>A A Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can
repair
>>A A it.A If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator,
it goes
>>A A into the bin.
>>A A I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
>>
>>A
[4][355]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpant
era-inc&
>>A ite
>>A A m=20271
>>A A Great stuff there too.
>>A A Mike
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>>A 2. [359]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
>>A 3.
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-inc&ite
>>A 4.
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-inc&ite
>>A 5. mailto:[362]DeTomaso at poca.com
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From:A Mike Drew <[368]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To:A [369]detomaso at poca.com
Cc:A
Date:A Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:56:40 -0700
Subject:A [DeTomaso] Pantera headlight bucket VIN photos
Hi guys,
Over the years lots of people have asked about the location of the
VIN stamped in the headlight buckets. The buckets were hand-fitted
to each car and then stamped, so they could be painted separately
and reunited with the proper car.
I happened to have one pass through my hands and broke out the
camera to clear up any confusion once and for all.
Here is a photo of the bucket, where you can just make out the
stamping on the inside, between the two near most studs.
And here is a close up of the stamping, 5503 (RIP).
Cheers!
Mike
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