[DeTomaso] fluidyne radiator

[Brent Stewart]

+1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this is a great way to go!  

     On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   

   In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22, michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
  writes:

    Anywhere in England  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
    ,chaps

  >>>I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
  One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
  industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
  http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
  They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
  things.
  I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.  It was
  exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
  damn.  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
  about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that was
  smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
  carried!!!!  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough to
  tax a car's cooling system.  I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
  and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
  never technically 'overheated'.
  So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
  radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
  unit as a template for sizing purposes).
  Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
  whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass replacement
  from Hall Pantera:
  http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
  m=20270
  Simply put, these things are terrific.  They have something like 30%
  greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
  same space.  They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
  to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.  The one in
  my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my Pantera
  slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
  gear behind endless traffic.  My 539 hp engine never got over 190
  degrees.  I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and off,
  indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently enough
  that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
  anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.  The #1 fan would shut off
  when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot mountains.
  Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
  it.  If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
  into the bin.
  I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:
  http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
  m=20271
  Great stuff there too.
  Mike

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   +1 with my hall brass radiator. If weight isn't a primary concern, this
   is a great way to go!
   On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:24 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     In a message dated 10/21/14 12 20 22,
   [1]michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
     writes:
       Anywhere in England  i can get a new Fluidyne or similar radiator
       ,chaps
     >>>I don't know of any Fluidyne radiator retailers in England.
     One of the world's premier radiator manufacturers is located in the
     industrial park at Silverstone raceway:
     [2]http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
     They make all the cooling bits for most of the F-1 teams, among other
     things.
     I have driven a Pantera equipped with one of their radiators.  It was
     exquisitely built, fantastically expensive, and didn't cool worth a
     damn.  However, I don't blame them--the owner of the car is a fanatic
     about light weight, and he specified that he wanted a radiator that
   was
     smaller than stock to cut down on the weight of the water it
     carried!!!!  His 'reasoning' was that England rarely gets hot enough
   to
     tax a car's cooling system.  I drove his car to Italy in summer heat,
     and the temp needle hovered in the red zone the entire time, but it
     never technically 'overheated'.
     So, having said all that, I'm sure they could build you a proper
     radiator that was adequately sized for the job (I'd use the existing
     unit as a template for sizing purposes).
     Having said all THAT, if it was my money being spent, I'd bypass the
     whole aluminum radiator thing and just get a drop-in brass
   replacement
     from Hall Pantera:

   [3]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
   ite
     m=20270
     Simply put, these things are terrific.  They have something like 30%
     greater heat dissapation versus the stock unit, yet they occupy the
     same space.  They come with modern screw-in thermoswitches and diodes
     to ground the cooling fans to the body too, a nice bonus.  The one in
     my car is more than 20 years old; this past weekend, I drove my
   Pantera
     slowly around Lake Tahoe, sometimes grinding up steep hills in first
     gear behind endless traffic.  My 539 hp engine never got over 190
     degrees.  I could see that the #2 radiator fan was cycling on and
   off,
     indicating that the cooling system was shedding heat efficiently
   enough
     that it wasn't needed all the time, and certainly was not needed
     anytime we went more than about 25-30 mph.  The #1 fan would shut off
     when driving on the highway, even climbing almost 8000-foot
   mountains.
     Best thing about a brass radiator is that any local shop can repair
     it.  If you pick up a rock and hole your Fluidyne radiator, it goes
     into the bin.
     I am using the matching drop-in-replacement pusher fans:

   [4]http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&
   ite
     m=20271
     Great stuff there too.
     Mike
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References

   1. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10 at hotmail.co.uk
   2. http://www.dockingengineering.com/products.html
   3. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
   4. http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product.cgi?d=hallpantera-inc&ite
   5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com