[DeTomaso] stock pantera's
Pantdino
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Sun Oct 19 17:08:03 EDT 2014
You are right.
The people paying big bucks for low mileage stock cars are collectors who will let it sit in their big garage / warehouse and don't care how it drives (or maybe even if the radiator and brakes are corroded to the point of unusability)
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From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>; benda notokoesoemo <bob at longwood2.com>; detomaso at poca.com <DeTomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
Some of these people who are buying "Stock" low mileage cars (under 10,000 miles) I think are obviously not buying them to drive them , but for investment purposes. So the inadequacies of the truly stock cars are unimportant to them. I bought my car to drive, so the brakes , wheels (needed to fit brakes) cooling, and electronics were important to me. While I was at it doubling the HP didn't seem like a bad idea either! So I may not set any sale price records but if I were buying a car as a non-driving investment I wouldn't have purchased a Pantera,
Boyd
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
If you mean by stock literally "as it left the factory" with inadequate
Lucas cooling fans, inadequate radiator, retarded timing, etc, then I
agree that stock cars are not something you'd want.
But fix those basic things and the car is fine and the narrow-bodied
cars are the purest design
Jim
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To: Bob Lehmann <bob at longwood2.com>; DeTomaso <DeTomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 6:06 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
That is exactly why I think Pantera prices for narrow bodied cars will
remain low. Special cars will go up for rarity and historical
significance, but the rest will remain low. (my opinion)
I do not believe they had all the problems everyone complains about. I
drove my mostly stock car every day for about 8 years. The only problems
I had were related to the age of the car.
But the general public and many owners believe they sucked. Even Jay Leno
said in regards to stock Panteras, A^3You donA^1t want that. They werenA^1t
very good from the factory. They overheated. (They had) suspension
problemsAA^2 Suspension problems? Seriously?
But thatA^1s okay with me. Low Pantera prices means some day I might buy
another. If my car were worth $1M, I wouldnA^1t sell.
On 10/18/14, 12:36 AM, "Bob Lehmann" <[1]bob at longwood2.com> wrote:
>CanA^1t believe anyone would want a stock pantera. The reason one doesnA^1t
>see stock panteraA^1s because they were awful, got hot, a/c didnA^1t work
>well, brakes were so so, etc. This is why Hall Pantera and Mind Train
>got started with all the new stuff that was better.
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You are right.
The people paying big bucks for low mileage stock cars are collectors
who will let it sit in their big garage / warehouse and don't care how
it drives (or maybe even if the radiator and brakes are corroded to the
point of unusability)
-----Original Message-----
From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>; benda notokoesoemo
<bob at longwood2.com>; detomaso at poca.com <DeTomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
Some of these people who are buying "Stock" low mileage cars (under
10,000 miles) I think are obviously not buying them to drive them , but
for investment purposes. So the inadequacies of the truly stock cars
are unimportant to them. I bought my car to drive, so the brakes ,
wheels (needed to fit brakes) cooling, and electronics were important
to me. While I was at it doubling the HP didn't seem like a bad idea
either! So I may not set any sale price records but if I were buying a
car as a non-driving investment I wouldn't have purchased a Pantera,
Boyd
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
<[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
If you mean by stock literally "as it left the factory" with
inadequate
Lucas cooling fans, inadequate radiator, retarded timing, etc,
then I
agree that stock cars are not something you'd want.
But fix those basic things and the car is fine and the
narrow-bodied
cars are the purest design
Jim
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From: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Bob Lehmann <[3]bob at longwood2.com>; DeTomaso
<[4]DeTomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 6:06 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stock pantera's
That is exactly why I think Pantera prices for narrow bodied cars
will
remain low. Special cars will go up for rarity and historical
significance, but the rest will remain low. (my opinion)
I do not believe they had all the problems everyone complains
about. I
drove my mostly stock car every day for about 8 years. The only
problems
I had were related to the age of the car.
But the general public and many owners believe they sucked. Even
Jay Leno
said in regards to stock Panteras, A^3You donA^1t want that. They
werenA^1t
very good from the factory. They overheated. (They had) suspension
problemsAA^2 Suspension problems? Seriously?
But thatA^1s okay with me. Low Pantera prices means some day I
might buy
another. If my car were worth $1M, I wouldnA^1t sell.
On 10/18/14, 12:36 AM, "Bob Lehmann" <[1][5]bob at longwood2.com>
wrote:
>CanA^1t believe anyone would want a stock pantera. The reason one
doesnA^1t
>see stock panteraA^1s because they were awful, got hot, a/c
didnA^1t work
>well, brakes were so so, etc. This is why Hall Pantera and Mind
Train
>got started with all the new stuff that was better.
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