[DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

Sun Oct 19 16:44:40 EDT 2014

Well put.

"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes [cid:7FC6F542-2968-4AFD-A4DB-E4F4DB47B2F6]
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸

From: "michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>" <michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:00 PM
To: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com<mailto:doug351c at gmail.com>>, "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

The principles of race driving are like laws of physics, highly unlikely to
change.
There is NO SUCH THING as Fast IN / Fast OUT.  There are three choices,
Fast IN/ Slow OUT,  Slow IN / Fast OUT and Slow IN / Slow OUT. It depends
upon the turn, the turn before and after, the apex(s), traffic and the size
of your balls.

You can count on this to take you to either the winners circle, the pits,
the hospital or the morgue.

Michael Shortt
On Oct 19, 2014 2:28 PM, "doug351c" <doug351c at gmail.com<mailto:doug351c at gmail.com>> wrote:

Increasing speed though a given turn results in increasing acceleration
and it is acceleration that wreaks havoc on the human body.  Car drivers
are subject to the same limitations as fighter pilots when subjected to
acceleration forces (In a car it's turning, braking, accelerating).  The
typical max a pilot can briefly endure is 10 g's but that requires the
wearing of a g suit which forces blood up from the legs to the brain to
prevent tunnel vision and blackout.  If I remember right, current forumla
cars can achieve 3 to 4 g's in high speed turns using aero downforce.  The
low speed turns become limited by the tire grip which maxes out around 1.3
g's.  When lateral forces above around 1.3 g's occur, it's with the help of
aero downforce.

Doug Braun
blue 73L #5505

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Bill Lewis
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:13 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

So, watching the cars go much slower through the hair pin curves, the
question arises, assuming that the car can safely make ANY curve at any
speed - what speed is a human driver capable of attaining through these
curves?  Wouldn't that be a heck of a simulator ride!    --BILL Lewis

From: jjdetrich at gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:08:45 -0500
To: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

From: egj7217 at att.net<mailto:egj7217 at att.net>
To: egj7217 at att.net<mailto:egj7217 at att.net>
Sent: 10/16/2014 9:15:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: FW: Shell Commercial . . .

Can you just imagine the red tape, permits and cost to pull off this
commercial?

Here's a link to a Shell commercial shown in Europe .
Ostensibly, they're selling gasoline, but the cars used in the video steal
the show.  Ferrari pulled several of their race cars from various ages out
of storage, flew them around the world and filmed them running through the
streets of Rome, Rio, New York, Hong Kong, Honolulu and Monaco.

No computer graphics, these are the original cars on the original streets.
The best part is the sound from the basso-profundo notes of the early,
front-engine era, each scene cuts to a later generation, ending with the
wail of a modern F1 car.

There's just something about 3 liters and 14,000 RPM!

Ferrari Shell Commercial High Quality
<https://www.youtube.com/embed/1_kwxzU4wL4>

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   Well put.

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes  [cid:7FC6F542-2968-4AFD-A4DB-E4F4DB47B2F6]

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
   Date: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:00 PM
   To: Doug Braun <[4]doug351c at gmail.com>, "[5]detomaso at poca.com"
   <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

   The principles of race driving are like laws of physics, highly
   unlikely to
   change.
   There is NO SUCH THING as Fast IN / Fast OUT.  There are three choices,
   Fast IN/ Slow OUT,  Slow IN / Fast OUT and Slow IN / Slow OUT. It
   depends
   upon the turn, the turn before and after, the apex(s), traffic and the
   size
   of your balls.
   You can count on this to take you to either the winners circle, the
   pits,
   the hospital or the morgue.
   Michael Shortt
   On Oct 19, 2014 2:28 PM, "doug351c" <[7]doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:

   Increasing speed though a given turn results in increasing acceleration

   and it is acceleration that wreaks havoc on the human body.  Car
   drivers

   are subject to the same limitations as fighter pilots when subjected to

   acceleration forces (In a car it's turning, braking,
   accelerating).  The

   typical max a pilot can briefly endure is 10 g's but that requires the

   wearing of a g suit which forces blood up from the legs to the brain to

   prevent tunnel vision and blackout.  If I remember right, current
   forumla

   cars can achieve 3 to 4 g's in high speed turns using aero
   downforce.  The

   low speed turns become limited by the tire grip which maxes out around
   1.3

   g's.  When lateral forces above around 1.3 g's occur, it's with the
   help of

   aero downforce.

   Doug Braun

   blue 73L #5505

   -----Original Message-----

   From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of Bill
   Lewis

   Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:13 AM

   To: [9]detomaso at poca.com

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

   So, watching the cars go much slower through the hair pin curves, the

   question arises, assuming that the car can safely make ANY curve at any

   speed - what speed is a human driver capable of attaining through these

   curves?  Wouldn't that be a heck of a simulator ride!    --BILL Lewis

   From: [10]jjdetrich at gmail.com

   Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:08:45 -0500

   To: [11]detomaso at poca.com

   Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Shell Ferrari Ad

   From: [12]egj7217 at att.net

   To: [13]egj7217 at att.net

   Sent: 10/16/2014 9:15:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time

   Subj: FW: Shell Commercial . . .

   Can you just imagine the red tape, permits and cost to pull off this

   commercial?

   Here's a link to a Shell commercial shown in Europe .

   Ostensibly, they're selling gasoline, but the cars used in the video
   steal

   the show.  Ferrari pulled several of their race cars from various ages
   out

   of storage, flew them around the world and filmed them running through
   the

   streets of Rome, Rio, New York, Hong Kong, Honolulu and Monaco.

   No computer graphics, these are the original cars on the original
   streets.

   The best part is the sound from the basso-profundo notes of the early,

   front-engine era, each scene cuts to a later generation, ending with
   the

   wail of a modern F1 car.

   There's just something about 3 liters and 14,000 RPM!

   Ferrari Shell Commercial High Quality

   <[14]https://www.youtube.com/embed/1_kwxzU4wL4>

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References

   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
   3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
   4. mailto:doug351c at gmail.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   7. mailto:doug351c at gmail.com
   8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On
   9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  10. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
  11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  12. mailto:egj7217 at att.net
  13. mailto:egj7217 at att.net
  14. https://www.youtube.com/embed/1_kwxzU4wL4
  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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