[DeTomaso] Difference in 'stock' and returned to stock?
jderyke at aol.com
jderyke at aol.com
Wed Oct 15 19:42:55 EDT 2014
FWIW- some originality-freaks will pay extra for a destroyed-but-original paint job on rare cars (and on 200-year-old furniture as well!), so I'd say- Yes, it matters. One is Original which only happens one time, and one is Restored. There is no category called 'returned-to-stock' for those people. One Club member found a 1911 Model T in a barn 3 years ago, and got top dollar because it had never been worked on. It ran- sort of- but wasn't safe to drive; that didn't seem to matter to the buyers that showed up. The mouse nests, rust & corrosion also didn't matter. There are of course a dozen intermediate ownership positions, most of which I don't personally understand.
My 2¢- J DeRyke
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From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
To: List DeTomaso <Detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 3:49 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] Difference in 'stock' and returned to stock?
With the demand for original Panteras leading the value up, consider a
car `returned' to original.
I'm having a chat with a newbie to the registry regarding an original
Pantera.
I see that there might be a perceived difference in value between a
Pantera that is stock (from new)
and one that has been `returned' to stock.
If a Pantera has been returned to stock condition does that make it
worth less (or more) that a Pantera
that has always been like it was when new?
Take a simplified example, a Pantera that has been well enjoyed. The
wheels were changed sometime,
along with seats, and some other minor things. Then the car is sold,
and the new owner repaints the engine,
cleans up a bunch of stuff, finds some stock seats, and installs a set
of Campy wheels (say even with Arriva tires).
So now the car looks much closer to stock (or back to visibly
all-stock).
Just for an example... Say an original Pantera is worth $50,000. What
is a returned-to-stock Pantera worth?
(Keep all other things the same for the sake of this comparison. Same
mileage, same condition)
Does it really matter if it has been `returned'?
Thoughts?
Chuck
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FWIW- some originality-freaks will pay extra for a
destroyed-but-original paint job on rare cars (and on 200-year-old
furniture as well!), so I'd say- Yes, it matters. One is Original which
only happens one time, and one is Restored. There is no category called
'returned-to-stock' for those people. One Club member found a 1911
Model T in a barn 3 years ago, and got top dollar because it had never
been worked on. It ran- sort of- but wasn't safe to drive; that didn't
seem to matter to the buyers that showed up. The mouse nests, rust &
corrosion also didn't matter. There are of course a dozen intermediate
ownership positions, most of which I don't personally understand.
My 2A-c-- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
To: List DeTomaso <Detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 3:49 pm
Subject: [DeTomaso] Difference in 'stock' and returned to stock?
With the demand for original Panteras leading the value up, consider a
car `returned' to original.
I'm having a chat with a newbie to the registry regarding an original
Pantera.
I see that there might be a perceived difference in value between a
Pantera that is stock (from new)
and one that has been `returned' to stock.
If a Pantera has been returned to stock condition does that make it
worth less (or more) that a Pantera
that has always been like it was when new?
Take a simplified example, a Pantera that has been well enjoyed. The
wheels were changed sometime,
along with seats, and some other minor things. Then the car is sold,
and the new owner repaints the engine,
cleans up a bunch of stuff, finds some stock seats, and installs a set
of Campy wheels (say even with Arriva tires).
So now the car looks much closer to stock (or back to visibly
all-stock).
Just for an example... Say an original Pantera is worth $50,000. What
is a returned-to-stock Pantera worth?
(Keep all other things the same for the sake of this comparison. Same
mileage, same condition)
Does it really matter if it has been `returned'?
Thoughts?
Chuck
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