[DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?

Pantdino pantdino at aol.com
Sun Oct 12 10:55:30 EDT 2014 

The Ferrari expert mechanic on ferrarichat thinks even the exotic Ferraris made today will be useless and valueless in 20 years because no one will be making the zillion microprocessors the cars need to run.
Forget about a BMW 135i
 
Jim
 
 
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From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
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Sent: Sun, Oct 12, 2014 6:44 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?


Dear Sean:  Well said, sir.     Chuck Engles






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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Sean Korb
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:05 AM
To: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?

I was despairing since a 135i is a bit faster and about the same expense, but to 
take one on in 20 years all the electronics will lead a restorer to madness.  
The value of the Pantera will assuredly rise and it will take the same care to 
bring one back from a barn find then as it does now.  I think the cars of the 
mid 20th century will eclipse all but the most exotic of this century for 
reasons that we haven't thought of yet.

Also, the Pantera still looks like a movie star.  The 135i... not so much.

sean

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:

>    I think about this sometimes too.
>
>
>
>    I think Panteras will always have some value because they are fast,
>    sound great, and look great.
>
>
>
>    Personally I don't think the same can be said for many of the high-buck
>    cars selling these days-- Porsche 356 and early 911, Austin Healey,
>    most Alfas, MGs, etc.   No matter how cute or swoopy a car is the next
>    generation is just not going to care about cars with 100 hp.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
>    To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Sat, Oct 11, 2014 2:14 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?
>    Along this line of thought, who thinks prices will stay high 20 years
>    from now. There will need to be demand, but where will that demand
>    come from? I suspect most of the people buying cars now saw them
>    when they were younger,will that be true in 20 years?
>    People ask me all the time what my car is worth and I honestly have
>    no idea. It is a rather ordinary mid year 71 that looks good and I hope
>    represents the name well. As much as mine isn't for sale, if someone
>    offered me $50K would I say no? As I sit here I would rather have the
>    car than the money, but in my heart there is a number I would sell
>    (well
>    less than a bajillion dollars).
>    One last thought, I was going through some old slides last night andA
>    found a pic of a Pantera I took at Riverside International Raceway in
>    1973. I was nine at the A time, apparently my future had already been
>    determined - I just didn't know it yet.
>    A  A --mike
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'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 "The 
more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller "Computers are useless.  
They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso


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   The Ferrari expert mechanic on ferrarichat thinks even the exotic
   Ferraris made today will be useless and valueless in 20 years because
   no one will be making the zillion microprocessors the cars need to run.

   Forget about a BMW 135i



   Jim





   -----Original Message-----
   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   To: spkorb <spkorb at gmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sun, Oct 12, 2014 6:44 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?
Dear Sean:  Well said, sir.     Chuck Engles






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From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Sean Korb
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:05 AM
To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?

I was despairing since a 135i is a bit faster and about the same expense, but to

take one on in 20 years all the electronics will lead a restorer to madness.
The value of the Pantera will assuredly rise and it will take the same care to
bring one back from a barn find then as it does now.  I think the cars of the
mid 20th century will eclipse all but the most exotic of this century for
reasons that we haven't thought of yet.

Also, the Pantera still looks like a movie star.  The 135i... not so much.

sean

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:

>    I think about this sometimes too.
>
>
>
>    I think Panteras will always have some value because they are fast,
>    sound great, and look great.
>
>
>
>    Personally I don't think the same can be said for many of the high-buck
>    cars selling these days-- Porsche 356 and early 911, Austin Healey,
>    most Alfas, MGs, etc.   No matter how cute or swoopy a car is the next
>    generation is just not going to care about cars with 100 hp.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Michael Cox <[4]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
>    To: detomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Sat, Oct 11, 2014 2:14 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Will Pantera prices follow Mangusta prices?
>    Along this line of thought, who thinks prices will stay high 20 years
>    from now. There will need to be demand, but where will that demand
>    come from? I suspect most of the people buying cars now saw them
>    when they were younger,will that be true in 20 years?
>    People ask me all the time what my car is worth and I honestly have
>    no idea. It is a rather ordinary mid year 71 that looks good and I hope
>    represents the name well. As much as mine isn't for sale, if someone
>    offered me $50K would I say no? As I sit here I would rather have the
>    car than the money, but in my heart there is a number I would sell
>    (well
>    less than a bajillion dollars).
>    One last thought, I was going through some old slides last night andA
>    found a pic of a Pantera I took at Riverside International Raceway in
>    1973. I was nine at the A time, apparently my future had already been
>    determined - I just didn't know it yet.
>    A  A --mike
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'65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382 "The
more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller "Computers are useless.
They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso


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  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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