[DeTomaso] Roofline or GT5 and GT5S
Charles McCall
charlesmccall at gmail.com
Wed Oct 1 09:19:54 EDT 2014
Don't look at the guy in the middle, but this was me just after buying my
GT5-S, parked next to my '72.
For reference, look at the height of the brake lights or rear bumpers. The
5-S is considerably lower.
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> Dear Mike,
>
> Well, off onto a tangent from wheels to roof
> line.
>
> The roof line of the GT5 and GT5S Panteras is
> *lower* than earlier "normal" Panteras????? I have never heard that.
> I had heard of a lower floor pan and smallish suspension differences,
> different engines, but I have not heard of a different roof line.
>
> I always thought that their menacing good looks,
> similar to the Ferrari 288 GT, was due to the widened stance and fender
> flares.
>
> May I ask if you have any references for the lowered
> roof line?? I mean this isn't just your calibrated eyeball analysis?
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>
> > AJ,
>
> >
>
> > You are completely missing the point.
>
> >
>
> > Your statements are completely true for narrow body Panteras. We are
> not talking about narrow body Panteras. We are talking about GT5 etc
> which came from the factory with 23 inch front and 24 inch rear tires.
> Their fender openings are much lower on the side of the body to
> accommodate them. Their roofline is lower than the early cars which
> only accentuates their width and makes them even more menacing. When
> you jack them up with tall tires, they look ridiculous IMHO.
>
> >
>
> > I also agree with you that an early Pantera with too-short tires
> looks really odd...
>
> >
>
> > Mike
>
> >
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> >
>
> > On Sep 30, 2014, at 20:37, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On 9/30/2014 8:17 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>
> > >> (and the cars look infinitely better with the
>
> > >> short 24-inch tires they were intended for, rather than the
> 27-inch
>
> > >> tires that the larger-diameter wheels restrict you to)
>
> > >
>
> > > I'm throwing down the bullshit card with regard to the rear wheels.
>
> > > The Pantera -came- with a 27" wheel/tire combo and the larger
> diameter
>
> > > combo looks infinitely better filling the rear wheel wells than a
> 24"
>
> > > tire. Yes, it may be true that an 18" or 19" wheel looks blingy
> and
>
> > > goofy in the rear but it comes down to tires.
>
> > >
>
> > > Most rubber available for larger diameter rims still falls -under-
> 27"
>
> > > diameter. The larger diameter wheels are in no way "restricting"
> you to
>
> > > 27" rubber. Oh how I wish that were the case, because then I could
> find
>
> > > properly sized rubber for the rear of the car and keep the
> speedometer
>
> > > close to being accurate.
>
> > >
>
> > > 24" rubber is nearly the max you can find for a 15" wheel these
> days,
>
> > > and it looks stupidly small on the rear of a Pantera. The Pantera
> looks
>
> > > proper to me with smaller diameter wheel/tire combo in front and
> larger
>
> > > diameter in the rear, in the diameters that are the same as the
> factory
>
> > > intended (about 24" front and 27" rear).
>
> > >
>
> > > Asa Jay
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
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Don't look at the guy in the middle, but this was me just after buying
my GT5-S, parked next to my '72.
A
For reference, look at the height of the brake lights or rear bumpers.
The 5-S is considerably lower.
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM, <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
A A Dear Mike,
A A A A A A A A A A A A Well, off onto a tangent from
wheels to roof
A A line.
A A A A A A A A A A A A The roof line of the GT5 and GT5S
Panteras is
A A *lower* than earlier "normal" Panteras?????A A I have never
heard that.
A A I had heard of a lower floor pan and smallish suspension
differences,
A A different engines, but I have not heard of a different roof
line.
A A A A A A A A A A A I always thought that their
menacing good looks,
A A similar to the Ferrari 288 GT, was due to the widened stance
and fender
A A flares.
A A A A A A A A A A A May I ask if you have any
references for the lowered
A A roof line??A A I mean this isn't just your calibrated eyeball
analysis?
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest
regards,A Chuck Engles
A A On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
A A > AJ,
A A >
A A > You are completely missing the point.
A A >
A A > Your statements are completely true for narrow body Panteras.
We are
A A not talking about narrow body Panteras. We are talking about
GT5 etc
A A which came from the factory with 23 inch front and 24 inch rear
tires.
A A Their fender openings are much lower on the side of the body to
A A accommodate them. Their roofline is lower than the early cars
which
A A only accentuates their width and makes them even more
menacing.A When
A A you jack them up with tall tires, they look ridiculous IMHO.
A A >
A A > I also agree with you that an early Pantera with too-short
tires
A A looks really odd...
A A >
A A > Mike
A A >
A A > Sent from my iPhone
A A >
A A > On Sep 30, 2014, at 20:37, Asa Jay Laughton
<[2]asajay at asajay.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A > > On 9/30/2014 8:17 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
A A > >>A A (and the cars look infinitely better with the
A A > >>A A short 24-inch tires they were intended for, rather
than the
A A 27-inch
A A > >>A A tires that the larger-diameter wheels restrict you to)
A A > >
A A > > I'm throwing down the bullshit card with regard to the rear
wheels.
A A > > The Pantera -came- with a 27" wheel/tire combo and the
larger
A A diameter
A A > > combo looks infinitely better filling the rear wheel wells
than a
A A 24"
A A > > tire.A Yes, it may be true that an 18" or 19" wheel looks
blingy
A A and
A A > > goofy in the rear but it comes down to tires.
A A > >
A A > > Most rubber available for larger diameter rims still falls
-under-
A A 27"
A A > > diameter.A The larger diameter wheels are in no way
"restricting"
A A you to
A A > > 27" rubber.A Oh how I wish that were the case, because
then I could
A A find
A A > > properly sized rubber for the rear of the car and keep the
A A speedometer
A A > > close to being accurate.
A A > >
A A > > 24" rubber is nearly the max you can find for a 15" wheel
these
A A days,
A A > > and it looks stupidly small on the rear of a Pantera.A The
Pantera
A A looks
A A > > proper to me with smaller diameter wheel/tire combo in
front and
A A larger
A A > > diameter in the rear, in the diameters that are the same as
the
A A factory
A A > > intended (about 24" front and 27" rear).
A A > >
A A > > AsaA Jay
A A > >
A A > >
A A > >
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