[DeTomaso] Best way to do a Distributorless Ignition System in a Pantera
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Tue Nov 25 12:09:23 EST 2014
Biggest problem with Electramotive distributor-less ignitions in years past seems to be, the original pickup sensors had a long unsupported wire going to the pickup that will vibration-crack, and the engine will abruptly quit. There is no fix for the sealed unit; replace the pickup. An industry rep once criticized Electramotive's pickup sensor build quality, but all the failures I've seen (three!) involved the sensor lead if left unsupported. One Pantera owner I know carried a spare sensor plus a spare brain-box with him for years; maybe nowadays their quality is better.
-----Original Message-----
From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
To: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 25, 2014 8:02 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best way to do a Distributorless Ignition System in a Pantera
I second what Michael said, Electromotive does it all.
Leslie A. Gray
> On Nov 25, 2014, at 3:26 AM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
wrote:
>
> Simply buy an Electromotive system, best one out there.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Nov 25, 2014 3:39 AM, "Ed Mendez" <[1]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>
> A A I found this:
> A A [1][2]http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> A A Only thing is I am running a FAST crank trigger with MSD Box
> and crank
> A A trigger locked distributor now. On my 351C with EFI now the ECU
> is
> A A controlling the spark, sends a signal to the MSD to fire the
> coil. I
> A A was looking for something like this for the small form factor
> and
> A A individual coil packs. This would take the place of the MSD
> box, I
> A A think?
> A A Anyway the above seams simpler than this:
> A
> A [2][3]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/10
> 21035995
> A A Any other suggestions?
> A A Another possible option:
> A A Run one of these with 2 coil packs for a wasted spark system to
> replace
> A A my current MSD box:
> A
> A [3][4]http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorles
> s/Igniti
> A A ons/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
> A A Just not sure how to trigger it... needs two triggers.
> A A Thanks, [4]Ed
> References
> A A 1. [5]http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> A A 2.
> [6]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035
> 995
> A A 3.
> [7]http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Ign
> itions/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
> A A 4. [8]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:edducati at mac.com
> 2. http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> 3. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035995
> 4. http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Igniti
> 5. http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> 6. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035995
> 7. http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Ignitions/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
> 8. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
> 9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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Biggest problem with Electramotive distributor-less ignitions in years
past seems to be, the original pickup sensors had a long unsupported
wire going to the pickup that will vibration-crack, and the engine will
abruptly quit. There is no fix for the sealed unit; replace the pickup.
An industry rep once criticized Electramotive's pickup sensor build
quality, but all the failures I've seen (three!) involved the sensor
lead if left unsupported. One Pantera owner I know carried a spare
sensor plus a spare brain-box with him for years; maybe nowadays their
quality is better.
-----Original Message-----
From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
To: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; San Diego Panteras
<sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 25, 2014 8:02 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Best way to do a Distributorless Ignition
System in a Pantera
I second what Michael said, Electromotive does it all.
Leslie A. Gray
> On Nov 25, 2014, at 3:26 AM, "[1]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[2]michael at michae
lshortt.com>
wrote:
>
> Simply buy an Electromotive system, best one out there.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Nov 25, 2014 3:39 AM, "Ed Mendez" <[1][3]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>
> A A I found this:
> A A [1][2][4]http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> A A Only thing is I am running a FAST crank trigger with MSD Box
> and crank
> A A trigger locked distributor now. On my 351C with EFI now the ECU
> is
> A A controlling the spark, sends a signal to the MSD to fire the
> coil. I
> A A was looking for something like this for the small form factor
> and
> A A individual coil packs. This would take the place of the MSD
> box, I
> A A think?
> A A Anyway the above seams simpler than this:
> A
> A [2][3][5]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/10
> 21035995
> A A Any other suggestions?
> A A Another possible option:
> A A Run one of these with 2 coil packs for a wasted spark system to
> replace
> A A my current MSD box:
> A
> A [3][4][6]http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorles
> s/Igniti
> A A ons/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
> A A Just not sure how to trigger it... needs two triggers.
> A A Thanks, [4]Ed
> References
> A A 1. [5][7]http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> A A 2.
> [6][8]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035
> 995
> A A 3.
> [7][9]http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Ign
> itions/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
> A A 4. [8][10]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
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> References
>
> 1. [13]mailto:edducati at mac.com
> 2. [14]http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> 3. [15]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035995
> 4. [16]http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Igniti
> 5. [17]http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
> 6. [18]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035995
> 7. [19]http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Ignitio
ns/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
> 8. [20]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
> 9. [21]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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References
1. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
3. mailto:edducati at mac.com
4. http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
5. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/10
6. http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorles
7. http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
8. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035
9. http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Ign
10. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
13. mailto:edducati at mac.com?
14. http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
15. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035995
16. http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Igniti
17. http://compu-tronix.com/DIS8.htm
18. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5650045562/m/1021035995
19. http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Ignitions/Distributorless/Ignitions/62112-DIS-2_Plus_Distributorless_2_Channel.aspx
20. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
24. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
25. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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