[DeTomaso] Fuel cell
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 21 14:44:10 EST 2014
Do you mind if ask the cost? My new motor will have ported A-3 heads an
A331 intake a custom built carb , 180 degree headers , Forger high end
(7/8"s connecting rod arp fasteners Forged internally balanced crank,
Forged flat top 10.5: 1 pistons A Fidanza steel and aluminum lightened
flywheel, a cust grind hydraulic cam ( i didn't want to deal with solid
lifters) it was designed by Dan Jones and is being built by Dave McLain
and according to the computer Dyno mation is supposed to produce around
635 HP at 6500 Rpm and around 590 ft lbs of torque. I have never raced but
I have considered trying to get involved in some of the ORR like the silver
state, in which case i would need a fuel cell,roll cage and fire
suppression. After my recent brush with cancer I realize I cant make plans
for to far in the future and If I want to do somethings I need to get
moving or change my plans to driving Go karts or some other less
challenging form of motor sport.
Thanks,
Boyd
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <
arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ron McCall designed and built a twin-tank set up for my car that is
> similar to what Jack is describing. Holds 12.5 gal on each side for a total
> of 25 gal.
>
> You can chose which side to use or drain from both sides. Gauge can show
> fuel volume in either tank. You can fill up from either side.
>
> I have this set up on my Pantera and my Ferrari 308 - both passed NASA and
> SCCA tech inspection.
>
> Ron has the blueprints for the tanks so he can easily fab one up for you.
> Picture of my 308 tanks attached.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
>> I have seen a pair of fuel cells run in race Panteras in the past. They
>> were simple rectangular blocks about 12" thick and sized to fit one on
>> each side of the engine, with a large connection tube between the two
>> tanks that ran in front of the engine. Each held about 10 gallons.
>> Advantage is, you get better balance since only half the fuel volume is
>> in either tank, and all of it is far lower in the chassis than would be
>> a single tank behind the driver. Disadvantage is more complexity, far
>> more chance of fuel leaks from dual cells, and no gauge. Don't know who
>> built them but any of the commercial fuel-cell builders likely have
>> such. Quella runs a single cell in the front trunk of his
>> tube-frame/plastic-body Pantera that seems about the same size.10
>> gallons or so would be OK for open track events but too small for
>> Silver State or most street use. Power requires fuel: Jr Wilson with
>> around 900 bhp once emptied a 42 gallon cell in only 92 miles of WFO
>> running in one Silver State event....plan accordingly.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
>> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 8:03 am
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel cell
>> Some one listed a fuel cell for sale the other day but by the time I
>> made contact it was already spoken for. I an in the process if
>> replacing my engine with a HIPOA engine and would like to replace my
>> fuel tank. Some one mentioned in the past that Dennis Quella at one
>> time carried or could supply a fuel cell that fit A in the original
>> fuel tank space perfectly. Does any one know off any other replacement
>> fuel tanks or fuel cells that fit the original space but offer some
>> advantageous over the original tank? (like a fuel cell, or Superior
>> material , roll over protection etc? If so who carries it and would you
>> know the cost?
>> Thanks,
>> Boyd
>>
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Do you mind if ask the cost? My new motor will have ported A-3 heads an
A331 intake a custom built carb , 180 degree headers , Forger high end
(7/8"s connecting rod arp fasteners Forged internally balanced crank,
Forged flat top 10.5: 1 pistons A Fidanza steel and aluminum lightened
flywheel, a cust grind hydraulic cam ( i didn't want to deal with solid
lifters) it was designed by Dan Jones A and is being built by Dave
McLain A and according to the computer Dyno mation is supposed to
produce around 635 HP at 6500 Rpm and around 590 ft lbs of torque. I
have never raced but I have considered trying to get involved in some
of the ORR like the silver state, in which case i would need a fuel
cell,roll cage and fire suppression. After my recent brush with cancer
I realize I cant make plans for to far in the future and If I want to
do somethings I A need to get moving or change my plans to driving Go
karts or some other less challenging A form of motor sport.
Thanks,
Boyd
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar
<[1]arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com> wrote:
Ron McCall designed and built a twin-tank set up for my car that is
similar to what Jack is describing. Holds 12.5 gal on each side for a
total of 25 gal.A
You can chose which side to use or drain from both sides. Gauge can
show fuel volume in either tank. You can fill up from either side.
I have this set up on my Pantera and my Ferrari 308 - both passed NASA
and SCCA tech inspection.
Ron has the blueprints for the tanks so he can easily fab one up for
you. Picture of my 308 tanks attached.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
<[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A I have seen a pair of fuel cells run in race Panteras in the past.
They
A A were simple rectangular blocks about 12" thick and sized to fit
one on
A A each side of the engine, with a large connection tube between the
two
A A tanks that ran in front of the engine. Each held about 10 gallons.
A A Advantage is, you get better balance since only half the fuel
volume is
A A in either tank, and all of it is far lower in the chassis than
would be
A A a single tank behind the driver. Disadvantage is more complexity,
far
A A more chance of fuel leaks from dual cells, and no gauge. Don't
know who
A A built them but any of the commercial fuel-cell builders likely
have
A A such. Quella runs a single cell in the front trunk of his
A A tube-frame/plastic-body Pantera that seems about the same size.10
A A gallons or so would be OK for open track events but too small for
A A Silver State or most street use. Power requires fuel: Jr Wilson
with
A A around 900 bhp once emptied a 42 gallon cell in only 92 miles of
WFO
A A running in one Silver State event....plan accordingly.
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Boyd Casey <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com>
A A To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 8:03 am
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel cell
A A Some one listed a fuel cell for sale the other day but by the time
I
A A made contact it was already spoken for. I an in the process if
A A replacing my engine with a HIPOA engine and would like to replace
my
A A fuel tank. Some one mentioned in the past that Dennis Quella at
one
A A time carried or could supply a fuel cell that fit A in the
original
A A fuel tank space perfectly. Does any one know off any other
replacement
A A fuel tanks or fuel cells that fit the original space but offer
some
A A advantageous over the original tank? (like a fuel cell, or
Superior
A A material , roll over protection etc? If so who carries it and
would you
A A know the cost?
A A Thanks,
A A Boyd
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